Fire Chief Suspended For Inappropriat...

Fire Chief Suspended For Inappropriate Touching

There are 54 comments on the KOAT.com story from Sep 16, 2009, titled Fire Chief Suspended For Inappropriate Touching. In it, KOAT.com reports that:

Controversy surrounds a fire chief because of his actions in the city of Eunice, N.M., on May 23.

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No longer from Eunice

Topeka, KS

#41 Dec 21, 2009
I was glad to hear Ron was cleared of charges. The ill will against him stems from three particular areas:
1) A paramedic that was only on the department for at most 6 weeks who openly stated that he wanted the Fire Chief job and caused a number of problems there to take over the position (we all know that type).
2) A disgruntled son of a former Fire Dept. employee who quit (yes, she quit) so she wouldn't get fired. And yes, it was headed in that direction and she knew it. Many of the department refused to be on an ambulance crew with her.(I belive she's currently suing the City for something, right?)
3) The friends of these two people.
The investigator of this incident was a family relation of the former employee - she was heard bragging about this in town. Friends (drinking buddies) of the first area of discontent were on the hearing board and did not recuse themselves. The whole thing was a flimsy attack on a good man.
I think we'll see these next set of charges go the same route - the false statements and flimsy accusations from the third group who wish him gone from town.
This will be Eunice's loss.
The ruling just shows - justice and truth do prevail.
Wondering in Tx

Haskell, TX

#42 Dec 21, 2009
Choices wrote:
I'm not vidictive, and they most certainly aren't bogus charges. I came forward and turned him in for sexual contact with a patient because I wasn't going to put my licenses on the line to keep it a secret. Just look what happened to the people that tried to cover up this lastest ordeal....They got slapped with conspiracy charges. No thanks.
-Tony
You labeled a fine man a sexual pervert with your lies. You ruined a man's life because of your sour grapes. Well now you can be labled a liar and see how many people will trust in your word again. Hopefully Ron will slap a few charges on you for the character assassination you did on him because he has been cleared. Will your character withstand the hit? But Ron will probably forgive you because that is the kind of person he is. I doubt you are so perfect that you should have thrown the first stone. Something your mom should have said to you.....SHAME ON YOU.
Really

United States

#43 Dec 21, 2009
Justice prevails... So you say, would you be saying the same if his license weren't cleared?(I'm sure Ron and his supporters alike would claim, conspiracy if justice had truly prevailed). The bottom line is there was inappropriate contact between a paramedic and a patient. Despite the fact (and I do mean FACT) that it happened he was able to lie and slander everyone involved and get his license back. Some victory, I'm sure he's proud of the mud he was throwing and the people he hurt to get here. He is, by my interpretation, a narcissistic sociopath who doesn't care as long as he "won". Ron admitted he did this and then used tax payer dollars to develop a lot of smoke and mirrors to get away with it. Just remember the OJ Simpson trial, an acquittal doesn't mean NOT GUILTY.

Ron will undoubtedly use this ruling to say "I was cleared" but in the end "In gods timetable, justice always prevails"

Congratulations Ron, you lied, cheated, and manipulated your way into getting back a license that MOST of us in this community hope you never get to utilize.

With God as my witness be aware, if he is allowed to practice, this will happen again. Probably worse since he got away with it this time.

Regarding the thievery, he admitted that too, then denied it, then denied it again, and then admitted that he was a liar and a thief (All public record so feel free to request it and read it before you deny that).

Everyone who blindly supports him should wake up and realize that you're being fed a bunch of something and if you thought independently for one minute you'd realize that it's not as delicious as you believe it to be.

People who are willing to risk their reputation, income, and security to report wrongdoing should be applauded and awarded for doing the right thing, even when it isn't easy. From what I hear they've been slandered, bashed, retaliated against, defamed and called names.

Hopefully the city is able to read between the lines, recognize that although the evidence doesn't supports suspension in the eyes of procedural matters it does warrant termination of his employment for violation of city policy, ethical guidelines and moral law. And who knows, there's still the chance that this incident could be investigated criminally, and in the criminal court confessions still matter.
Really

United States

#44 Dec 21, 2009
Wondering in Tx wrote:
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You labeled a fine man a sexual pervert with your lies. You ruined a man's life because of your sour grapes. Well now you can be labled a liar and see how many people will trust in your word again. Hopefully Ron will slap a few charges on you for the character assassination you did on him because he has been cleared. Will your character withstand the hit? But Ron will probably forgive you because that is the kind of person he is. I doubt you are so perfect that you should have thrown the first stone. Something your mom should have said to you.....SHAME ON YOU.
Ron himself called a department meeting and admitted touching that woman's breast. He himself said that there was no medical or therapeutic reasoning for it. Then he told a bunch of other people a bunch of different stories... The facts will speak, you've got to be willing to listen.
Really

United States

#45 Dec 21, 2009
No longer from Eunice wrote:
I was glad to hear Ron was cleared of charges. The ill will against him stems from three particular areas:
1) A paramedic that was only on the department for at most 6 weeks who openly stated that he wanted the Fire Chief job and caused a number of problems there to take over the position (we all know that type).
2) A disgruntled son of a former Fire Dept. employee who quit (yes, she quit) so she wouldn't get fired. And yes, it was headed in that direction and she knew it. Many of the department refused to be on an ambulance crew with her.(I belive she's currently suing the City for something, right?)
3) The friends of these two people.
The investigator of this incident was a family relation of the former employee - she was heard bragging about this in town. Friends (drinking buddies) of the first area of discontent were on the hearing board and did not recuse themselves. The whole thing was a flimsy attack on a good man.
I think we'll see these next set of charges go the same route - the false statements and flimsy accusations from the third group who wish him gone from town.
This will be Eunice's loss.
The ruling just shows - justice and truth do prevail.
You're also forgetting an admission of quilt by the accused... The Paramedic who had been on the department for "6 weeks" didn't want the chief position, that was a rumor started by the offender to discredit the medic. The rumor that the investigator and the reporting party are relatives was started by the offender in an attempt to discredit the reporting party. Evidence doesn't get much better than an eye witness and a confession, but when you have the city's checkbook to cover costs I guess you can buy the idea that you're not as dirty as you admitted to being.

I'm still willing to trust my eyes and ears over a person's opinion (which is what that ruling was).
No longer from Eunice

Topeka, KS

#46 Dec 21, 2009
Did Ron touch the woman's breast? Yes. High on the breast, close to the breastbone, a location that I don't consider a personal invasion of my space when touched by a medical professional.(The woman didn't even consider it her breast, really.)

Was the touch sexual? No. Was the woman overmedicated? No. Was the woman violated? No. Did the woman feel sexually molested? No.

As for the current charges, I'll wait to comment on those. Public record - would that be when they didn't have their rights read to them but were intimidated into saying things?
Really

United States

#47 Dec 21, 2009
No longer from Eunice wrote:
Did Ron touch the woman's breast? Yes. High on the breast, close to the breastbone, a location that I don't consider a personal invasion of my space when touched by a medical professional.(The woman didn't even consider it her breast, really.)
Was the touch sexual? No. Was the woman overmedicated? No. Was the woman violated? No. Did the woman feel sexually molested? No.
As for the current charges, I'll wait to comment on those. Public record - would that be when they didn't have their rights read to them but were intimidated into saying things?
Sounds like you're already making excuses. Ron "felt her breast implant" after she asked him to. Yes she consented but is this really an appropriate relationship between a patient and their care provider? I think not!

Seems to me that I'm wasting time. Those who support him are going to continue to do so even if he raped someone in front of you. Those who don't support him are going to continue to try and explain the reasons but you will all just call them sour grapes and make an excuse. Eventually, it may not be the theft or the boob, but eventually you'll all see what we've seen. Ron was labeled a pervert by many in this area long before any of this was ever brought to light. Labeled by his own actions and comments. It wasn't until now that people have mustered the courage to do the right thing and report it. By the way, the assistant chief will not apply for the chief's position, so you better find another reason. The supporters want to point out that he was mistreated and labeled but they're rapidly doing the same thing in this case, blame everyone and accept no responsibility. When your dentist touches your breast it's inappropriate. Same thing here. There was no breast exam, just an inappropriate grope.

As for your public record comment, Ron was plainly advised that he was not under arrest and free to leave prior to making any statements. That means he didn't need his rights read. There's every possibility that Ron will get a pass on this, most current charge, as well as the first one. It still doesn't make him right or innocent... And that will never change.
Amused

United States

#48 Dec 21, 2009
Really wrote:
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Seems to me that I'm wasting time. Those who support him are going to continue to do so even if he raped someone in front of you. Those who don't support him are going to continue to try and explain the reasons but you will all just call them sour grapes and make an excuse. Eventually, it may not be the theft or the boob, but eventually you'll all see what we've seen. Ron was labeled a pervert by many in this area long before any of this was ever brought to light. Labeled by his own actions and comments. It wasn't until now that people have mustered the courage to do the right thing and report it.
You're right. We are all wasting our time, because we will not agree. However, your second paragraph is entirely out of line. My sources would suggest that you must be Ronnie. Nice to meet you.

April
Really

United States

#49 Dec 21, 2009
I'm sorry to inform you that you and your sources are wrong again. By the way, Ron's never mentioned a daughter named April. He must be ashamed. You're absolutely right, we will never agree, I am mature enough to leave it at that.
No longer from Eunice

Topeka, KS

#50 Dec 21, 2009
Really wrote:
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Seems to me that I'm wasting time.
On this, we agree. Our "truths" are too different. I know I cannot convince you to believe as I do, and you won't convince me to believe as you do.

Facts cannot be changed, you're right. But facts can be read and interpreted in many different ways. Just think of all the denominations out there that can pull Biblical "facts" to prove why their denomination is the only "true" denomination.
Wondering in Tx

Haskell, TX

#51 Dec 22, 2009
Really wrote:
I'm sorry to inform you that you and your sources are wrong again. By the way, Ron's never mentioned a daughter named April. He must be ashamed. You're absolutely right, we will never agree, I am mature enough to leave it at that.
Shame on you too. You are really reaching for straws now. When you cant say anything more knowledgable than that. Do you want to attack his dog too? Will that make your facts more believable You must be a sick individual to live off causing pain and drama in someones life by saying such stupid things. That statement just showed how much you dont know about Ron or his family. You are really grasping at straws to try to win your point and so goes what this crap has been about. You have stated just enough facts and half truths to be almost believed and then you make a idiotic statement like that....Goes to show how much Ron has had to fight. You are truly idiotic. And that stupid statemnt just made you lose all credibility.
John

Aransas Pass, TX

#52 Dec 22, 2009
Really wrote:
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Ron himself called a department meeting and admitted touching that woman's breast. He himself said that there was no medical or therapeutic reasoning for it. Then he told a bunch of other people a bunch of different stories... The facts will speak, you've got to be willing to listen.
Why are you expending so much energy and time in accusing? What is your motive?
Euniceite EHS75

Lovington, NM

#53 Jan 22, 2010
No longer from Eunice
Lawrence, KS

said

I was glad to hear Ron was cleared of charges. The ill will against him stems from three particular areas:
1) A paramedic that was only on the department for at most 6 weeks who openly stated that he wanted the Fire Chief job and caused a number of problems there to take over the position (we all know that type).
2) A disgruntled son of a former Fire Dept. employee who quit (yes, she quit) so she wouldn't get fired. And yes, it was headed in that direction and she knew it. Many of the department refused to be on an ambulance crew with her.(I belive she's currently suing the City for something, right?)
3) The friends of these two people.
The investigator of this incident was a family relation of the former employee - she was heard bragging about this in town. Friends (drinking buddies) of the first area of discontent were on the hearing board and did not recuse themselves. The whole thing was a flimsy attack on a good man.
I think we'll see these next set of charges go the same route - the false statements and flimsy accusations from the third group who wish him gone from town.
This will be Eunice's loss.
The ruling just shows - justice and truth do prevail.
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You are right. Truth and justice do prevail.
knowthefacts

Houston, TX

#54 Jan 28, 2010
Get your facts straight wrote:
She wasn't fired. She quit on her own accord. Again, you have second hand information...or more appropriately, propaganda.
thats why she drives a school bus now. she was not fit to be a emt or firefighter.

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