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Hornbuckle used position to start affair, woman says

There are 21 comments on the Fort Worth Star-Telegram story from Aug 10, 2006, titled Hornbuckle used position to start affair, woman says. In it, Fort Worth Star-Telegram reports that:

FORT WORTH -- The goodbye note she found on her computer was devastating. Jane Doe's boyfriend, the 'love of her life,' was gone.

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R Lane

AOL

#1 Aug 11, 2006
I have never been to Agape Church I have heard of Pastor Hornbuckle,but to me These women were not seven and eight years old they knew this man was married,they knew he had money and I do believe this is a money thing. Why did no one go to his wife,He was wrong to, but he is a man no one is perfect, they could have stopped this long before it got started. If someone is going to counsel you this man had a big church why go to an apartment, why let him come to your house, his wife was a pastor why not have her to counsel you , these women knew what they were doing. And for the wife she knew what he was doing to and using drugs but never let her congreation know help cover this up to. Something is wrong with this picture.
Wendy

United States

#2 Aug 12, 2006
R Lane wrote:
I have never been to Agape Church I have heard of Pastor Hornbuckle,but to me These women were not seven and eight years old they knew this man was married,they knew he had money and I do believe this is a money thing. Why did no one go to his wife,He was wrong to, but he is a man no one is perfect, they could have stopped this long before it got started. If someone is going to counsel you this man had a big church why go to an apartment, why let him come to your house, his wife was a pastor why not have her to counsel you , these women knew what they were doing. And for the wife she knew what he was doing to and using drugs but never let her congreation know help cover this up to. Something is wrong with this picture.
Why are you blaming the victim? Why was it their responsibility to tell his wife? Why blame the trusting soul who invited a well respected minister into their homes, only to have him take advantage of their trust? Also...the wife is not responsible for his drug use and lies....HE IS!!
michael young

Fort Worth, TX

#3 Aug 14, 2006
Who can you trust these days? This is just terrible that a pastor would do so much wrong as the pastor, infidelity, rape, drugs, lies. This man has got to pay. We need to send a message to anyone in power that you will have to ansewer for your actions. And if you don't think so, then i;ll ask this question. What if it was your daughter, sister or wifr?
Galactic Leader

Wilmer, TX

#4 Aug 14, 2006
What people forget is they found Rohypnol "the date rape drug" on Hornbuckle. I have lost all respect for TD Jakes and Emmit Smith for backing up a rapist. Hornbuckle's wife is a damn fool for believing. She has no morals. I understand the stand by your man but God made her a woman before he made her a wife.
A Woman of Dallas

Andover, MA

#5 Aug 25, 2006
Yes, I agree this is about money on the part of the women & his wife. The women wants money for their participation in an affair. Which doesn't seems to have been forced. If it had been done once I would have considered the situation, but sweveral times wihtout a word to anyone looks a lot like consentual. As for his wife, yes I believe she knew, maybe not all the gorey details, but a wife always knows when another woman comes into her marriage. Renee had gotten used to the salary, lifestyle, and prestigious image and chose to ignore the situation. My prayers are with her because she must have a deep & shameful hurt. Remember this is the year of karma - a lot more will come out from this and other situations. What's done in the dark will come to the light and this is the year for it!
The Pied Piper

United States

#6 Aug 25, 2006
A Woman of Dallas wrote:
Yes, I agree this is about money on the part of the women & his wife. The women wants money for their participation in an affair. Which doesn't seems to have been forced. If it had been done once I would have considered the situation, but sweveral times wihtout a word to anyone looks a lot like consentual. As for his wife, yes I believe she knew, maybe not all the gorey details, but a wife always knows when another woman comes into her marriage. Renee had gotten used to the salary, lifestyle, and prestigious image and chose to ignore the situation. My prayers are with her because she must have a deep & shameful hurt. Remember this is the year of karma - a lot more will come out from this and other situations. What's done in the dark will come to the light and this is the year for it!
Well let's define the word force, no he didn't throw her on the floor but....If the drug rohypnol is placed in a drink, you pass out, and find that you have had non consentual sex, then I would very well say she was forced.

This circumstance is why alot of victims of rape do not come foward..."No one will believe you" or "I will do something to your family".

Renee should have done her part in his hanging, then divorced him. If she would have supported the victims, I'm sure their civil suit would be far less fiancially damaging then what it is going to be now. The jury convicted him of not one but all three charges.

Does anyone know the racial/financial background of any of the jury memebers?
TLV

Mays Landing, NJ

#7 Aug 28, 2006
As a Pastor in the Dallas-Ft Worth area, I am ashamed that this incident has happened in the body of Christ. It is an unfortunate blemish on my profession and Christianity. I am more disturbed, however, that Texans would defend such actions (haven't we learned from the Catholic church?) The bible calls us to "protect the sheep". Jeremiah railed against the shepherds of his day because they abused the flock.
I would never kick a man when he is down, nor would I sit in judgment of him. I pray that he would be forthright with God, acknowledge his sin, and seek healing and deliverance. But Jesus never condoned sin; he addressed it by dying on a cross for it. Far too often, the church sweeps sin under the rug instead of addressing it as Jesus did; not to condemn or embarras, but to heal and make us whole.
The church today loves the "celebrity pastor", where congregants put more trust in the man of God instead of the God who uses him. My heart goes out to the victims and their families.(one victim stated her faith has been shattered!) I pray that God would give them grace to overcome this terrible tragedy.
Hale Bopp

United States

#8 Aug 29, 2006
TLV wrote:
As a Pastor in the Dallas-Ft Worth area, I am ashamed that this incident has happened in the body of Christ. It is an unfortunate blemish on my profession and Christianity. I am more disturbed, however, that Texans would defend such actions (haven't we learned from the Catholic church?) The bible calls us to "protect the sheep". Jeremiah railed against the shepherds of his day because they abused the flock.
I would never kick a man when he is down, nor would I sit in judgment of him. I pray that he would be forthright with God, acknowledge his sin, and seek healing and deliverance. But Jesus never condoned sin; he addressed it by dying on a cross for it. Far too often, the church sweeps sin under the rug instead of addressing it as Jesus did; not to condemn or embarras, but to heal and make us whole.
The church today loves the "celebrity pastor", where congregants put more trust in the man of God instead of the God who uses him. My heart goes out to the victims and their families.(one victim stated her faith has been shattered!) I pray that God would give them grace to overcome this terrible tragedy.
The saddest part is that I have heard many people of all races say "Did you hear about the black pastor..." It is almost as if people have connected this with not only Christianity, but black as well.
Sheila Smith

AOL

#9 Sep 3, 2006
I do not understand why some of the church members are still supporting the Rapist pastor. He crossed the line Big Time when he chose to put a potent drug in the women's punch or wine. He is a stone cold criminal. His wife knew how he was. She knew he was a cheat but she didn't want to lose her status. As a result people were violated and hurt.
Sheila Smith

AOL

#10 Sep 3, 2006
It seemed to me that most of the women and men in that church were under the rapist-pastor spell. I read in the newspaper that 12 years ago about 4 or 5 men in Agape went to Hornbuckle and asked him to stop his ungodly behavior. He denied everything. This has been going on for a long time. It reminds me of the priests who hurt and violated children in the Catholic church. Why do people support false idols? He was a false idol. His wife is a false idol also. She wanted that lifestyle and that 2.2 million dollar house that they were trying to build with the money from the congregation that they were deceiving. Why oh why do some church folks act as if a minister is GOD? I have never been able to figure that one out. The congregation should have voted him out of the church. But, no one had any backbones. That was Pastor Hornbuckle--they couldn't go against him. The male members in that church were WIMPS. They should have stood up to the rapist when they saw things were not following a christian path. Men are suppose to protect their women folks. But no, they chosed to act as if they were still in slavery. Hornbuckle was the MASSA. They couldn't go against Massa and the Mistress from the Big House. God is not pleased with the men of Agape. Some of the Women in the church went againt the victims, saying they did not believe them. How sad, when women don't stand together and protect each other. They chose to protect the Addict-Rapist. Lord Have Mercy.
Travis Bickle

United States

#12 Sep 15, 2006
R Lane wrote:
I have never been to Agape Church I have heard of Pastor Hornbuckle,but to me These women were not seven and eight years old they knew this man was married,they knew he had money and I do believe this is a money thing. Why did no one go to his wife,He was wrong to, but he is a man no one is perfect, they could have stopped this long before it got started. If someone is going to counsel you this man had a big church why go to an apartment, why let him come to your house, his wife was a pastor why not have her to counsel you , these women knew what they were doing. And for the wife she knew what he was doing to and using drugs but never let her congreation know help cover this up to. Something is wrong with this picture.
SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH YOU.
KEEP APOLOGIZING FOR BLACK ON BLACK CRIME!
Travis Bickle

United States

#13 Sep 15, 2006
ONCE AGAIN RELIGION HAS SHOWN ITSELF TO BE THE MOST VILE MOVEMENT ON EARTH.
RELIGION HAS CAUSED ALL WARS AND ALL CRIME.
GOD HOPED FOR BETTER.
HE DIDN'T GET IT.
GOD CREATED MANKIND NOT RELIGION.
Fort Worth

Fort Worth, TX

#14 Jul 2, 2007
It is shameful for what this so-called Sheppard of God did to these women. Through the law of the land, Mr. Hornbuckle has been judged and sentenced for what he has done. I pray for the victims in this tragedy and hope that God will quickly heal their wounds from this sick man. Ms. Renee Hornbuckle is as guilty as her husband for knowing her husband's character and not coming forth. God may have initially called Mr. Hornbuckle to preach, but instead he allowed his flesh to lead him instead of him yielding to the Holy Spirit. We in the body of Christ need to hold our men and women in leadership roles accountable for not being true to God's word, and being false witnesses by following a hidden agenda that will eventually be revealed by our true Savior Jesus Christ.
A Christian

Addison, TX

#15 Jul 26, 2007
Travis Bickle wrote:
ONCE AGAIN RELIGION HAS SHOWN ITSELF TO BE THE MOST VILE MOVEMENT ON EARTH.
RELIGION HAS CAUSED ALL WARS AND ALL CRIME.
GOD HOPED FOR BETTER.
HE DIDN'T GET IT.
GOD CREATED MANKIND NOT RELIGION.
I'm sorry you feel this way and I'll pray for you. God does'nt cause wars, MEN do! As for the what happened there's an old saying "First time shame on him. Second time shame on me!" The women knew the difference in right and wrong and most assuredly he and his wife did also. Remeber when you point a finger,there's a thumb pointing back at you. I'm sorry someone brought up race as this happens in all races. Remember GOD made us all.
TD Jakes Member

Richardson, TX

#16 Aug 1, 2007
I dont understand why you are blaming my pastor for helping him out. He is a man of excellence and would never do such a thing.
Tyra

United States

#17 Aug 3, 2007
I visited Agape one time. After I left the service I felt weird. The feeling of the entire church was eerie. Anytime a man of God (? Mr Hornebuckle)has to have bodyguards following him around during service it says ALOT. His every move, they were right there with their radio earpieces like secret service. God bless him and the sad people that stil believe in him!!!(but hey some chose to follow Jim Jones all the way to the kool-aid.)
God cares

Hialeah, FL

#18 Aug 22, 2007
This was wrong, but God is a forgiving God.
Remember the children in this case.
Legacy

Dallas, TX

#19 Aug 23, 2007
Sad that there has to be so many arguements about religion and God....

The truth of the matter for everyone.... is plain and simple.....'seek out your own salvation...by reading and re-reading the Bible'... no one should tell you how to be saved... having a relationship with God is between YOU and God... too bad people put too much faith in humans.... because they will ALWAYS let you down....God won't...
DBD

United States

#21 Jan 19, 2008
What I don't understand is "How come the Misses did'nt know!!! Did the head master ever give her the drug? And is she still standing by her master until he return home. And why are the church members still standing by the Misses.
whocares

Groves, TX

#22 Jan 26, 2008
ted poe had an affair on his wife everyone
guess what? with a church of christ church member.

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