Police Say High-Stakes Poker Tournaments Held In Hurst Home

Police said they shut down a high-stakes gambling operation based in a North Texas home on Friday. Full Story
jew

Fort Worth, TX

#22 May 26, 2008
big bad John wrote:
<quoted text> My dear fellow stupid people all I ever hear nowdays is the police does this are that. The fact is they were doing there job and doing what they were told. Yes they have other certain units that go after the hard core crimnals. You trashy people get so mad when police officer,s are only doing there job. So shut up and stop your whinning and stop blaming the police department for doing there jobs you self rude moron.
man, it sounds to me you are the whiny be-otch
happy medium

Keller, TX

#23 May 26, 2008
uh...people out there running over kids and killing people, and the police worry about high stakes poker playing??????????
Evets

AOL

#24 May 27, 2008
LaLa,
"game (poker) rooms are huge sources of meth traffic'?
Say what!? I have played in many DFW poker rooms. They are nice, clean, friendly, offer free snacks and I have never, ever, ever seen an illegal drug - of any sort - at any of these places. In fact, all the places I have been to don't even allow smoking at the tables.
If they found any drugs in this raid (or the other raids - primarily in Dallas - in the past), trust me, we would have heard about it.
The police may be doing their jobs, but someone (the police chief, head of vice, I don't know) needs to get a grip. If they are really hellbent on closing down a poker room, they could always knock on the door.
(and if you don't think this would work or is not a safe tactit, you really don't know what kind of operation they "raided")

Also,thousands of dollars is not high stakes when divided by all the players that were there. They really don't do the math in this article, but suffice it to say if they collected $10,001+ they would have said "tens of thousands" in the article instead of "thousands", which would have made it more of a mid-stakes game. As it was, a SWAT team, with help from Hurst Police, vice, and the ATF (made that last one up) raided a low-stakes neighborhood poker game with guns drawn. sad.

“LMAO she is so phony”

Since: Mar 08

Right here where I am sitting

#25 May 27, 2008
Evets wrote:
LaLa,
"game (poker) rooms are huge sources of meth traffic'?
Say what!? I have played in many DFW poker rooms. They are nice, clean, friendly, offer free snacks and I have never, ever, ever seen an illegal drug - of any sort - at any of these places. In fact, all the places I have been to don't even allow smoking at the tables.
If they found any drugs in this raid (or the other raids - primarily in Dallas - in the past), trust me, we would have heard about it.
The police may be doing their jobs, but someone (the police chief, head of vice, I don't know) needs to get a grip. If they are really hellbent on closing down a poker room, they could always knock on the door.
(and if you don't think this would work or is not a safe tactit, you really don't know what kind of operation they "raided")
Also,thousands of dollars is not high stakes when divided by all the players that were there. They really don't do the math in this article, but suffice it to say if they collected $10,001+ they would have said "tens of thousands" in the article instead of "thousands", which would have made it more of a mid-stakes game. As it was, a SWAT team, with help from Hurst Police, vice, and the ATF (made that last one up) raided a low-stakes neighborhood poker game with guns drawn. sad.
Evets, have you been to the game rooms on 199 that are raided on a regular basis? I am only refering to those which are targeted by TCSO. They are high meth traffic areas since Briar is right up FM730 where everyone and their brother has a meth lab in their kitchen.

But you do realize that game rooms are illegal, right? Some do get around the illegal aspect of it, but others blatantly do not care that they are violating a law because so much money comes through there. They are raided, the people go to jail and are fined, they pay it and are back up and operating the very next day. Our game rooms are also high in crime and in general, the area is trashed.

Maybe it's just me, but despite wanting to have gambling legalized as well as marijuana, I still do not take part in those activities because they are illegal. I also do not drink and drive, or drink alcohol at all for that matter. I get my jollies from pissing people off here, LOL. Just kidding, but seriously, I think we all should now lobby to get these laws changed. Tax it like Las Vegas and give it to the schools. At least, that is how I feel....
G in Irving

Jackson Heights, NY

#26 May 27, 2008
High stakes?
Guess that would make a 2/5 game Mega High stakes.
Using the SWAT team to bust up a poker game is the biggest joke of all. The Mythbusters showed us that you might get a nasty paper cut from somebody throwing a card at you, so might as well use the city's paramilitary force to do the raid.
John

Lewisville, TX

#27 May 27, 2008
G in Irving wrote:
High stakes?
Guess that would make a 2/5 game Mega High stakes.
Using the SWAT team to bust up a poker game is the biggest joke of all. The Mythbusters showed us that you might get a nasty paper cut from somebody throwing a card at you, so might as well use the city's paramilitary force to do the raid.
WOAH!!! Calm Down Balla! 2/5 GAMES???? Oh wow! Yes, in this day and economic situation, that would be Mega High Stakes LOL.

They were qualifying for the WSOP. ESPN was filming the action. LOL Ha ha! High Stakes thats the funniest thing ever.
Michael C

Cedar Hill, TX

#28 May 27, 2008
What a joke...high stakes...unrespossible media. I agree with the many on here, use the police for better things, maybe...oh i dont know.....violent crimes? And for the commentor above saying these are meth houses, get a life, are you serious, you obviously have never ben in a card room around these parts. These are mainly middle class people enjoying a friday night. Texas needs to get it together and legalize it, so a majority of our money stops going to winstar and shreveport!!!
Evets

AOL

#32 May 27, 2008
big bad john,
Your punctuation, grammer, and spelling are horrible and hurt your case. You'd be surprised how much more intelligent your post would look if you knew "your" from "you're", "'" from ",", put an "s" on the end of "rapist", and don't use crazy terms like "police force task".

Also, to clarify a few things... many people to not consider Poker "gambling". California, for instance, has had legal poker for decades even though they don't allow "gambling".
Also, poker IS legal in Texas. I would explain that a "rake" made it illegal, but we are in an argument with people who do not understand poker, the law, or what a "rake" is.

For those who support the use of SWAT, would you support the use of SWAT to pull over a group of 20 drivers who were all going 5-10 miles over the speed limit? They are criminals after all. The police are only doing their jobs after all.
Pissed Off

Austin, TX

#33 May 28, 2008
I was there. No drugs, no guns, and no need for SWAT. The use of flash-bang grenades was way out of line, but I guess they need some practice.

High Stakes is a joke, the raid netted less than $5k. There were 16 people playing at two tables. The average person had $300, not very high stakes.

They are even charging the girl, who only made sandwiches and drinks, with a felony.

big bad John - Tarrant County Narcotics Task Force was the lead on this raid. Poker is not a drug; therefore your argument is void.
But by all means, please continue to show us all how the educational system has failed you.

Since: May 08

United States

#34 May 29, 2008
The idiots actually used flash bang grenades on you? What a freakin joke. Just one more example of the man holding you down. Thing is I bet you half of the people involved in the raid has played in a room or two.
Pissed Off wrote:
I was there. No drugs, no guns, and no need for SWAT. The use of flash-bang grenades was way out of line, but I guess they need some practice.
BIG DUKE

Fort Worth, TX

#35 May 29, 2008
I know some of the guys that were there and they are not what the media portrayed them to be. They have jobs, families, and own their own businesses. They are gulty of playing a game that was named after this state. It has been played in this city for the last 150 years, or at least a form of poker has. It helped make this city, the great city it is today. We need to get this SKILL GAME reclassified like they did in California. Gamling is illegal in California but TEXAS HOLD EM is not. Ask Louisiana and Oklahoma if they would like Texas to legalize Texas Holdem. I know the swat team was going in blind but flash bombs and riot gear? These guys are card players not bank robbers or dope dealers. They are some of the nicest guys you can meet, until you sit at a poker table with them. I'm glad that none of my friends were seriously injured in this ordeal.
unforgettable

Fort Worth, TX

#36 May 29, 2008
I WAS THERE!!ALSO ARRESTED!!!!The way everything took place was so out of line!!!The SWAT!!NARCOTICS TASK FORCE!!!!They weren't blinded going in" They already knew that it was a poker room!!!! due to the fact that they had an undercover cop come in as a player!!!!Yes the SWAT!!!used FLASH!!!BOMBS!!!BUSTED OUT WINDOWS AND DOORS!!!!Came chargeing in with big LOADED GUNS!!!Sceaming at everyone!!! GET! DOWN ON THE FLOOR NOW FACE DOWN!!!HANDS BEHIND YOUR HEADS!!!POINTING GUNS IN PEOPLES FACES!!! AND AT THE BACKS OF SOME PEOPLES HEADS!!!!NOT A DRUG HOUSE" NOT A WHORE HOUSE" Only a friendly game of cards!!!!They put our hands behind our backs and used thick tie straps on our hands!!some of them so tight that the straps were cutting into there skin!!!!!thanks to a couple of careing officers who helped some of them by haveing the straps cut off!!!and used cuffs in place of the straps!!!TOTALY!!!!!!!!uncalle d for!!!!they were out of line period!!!!
Big _ Little I

United States

#37 May 30, 2008
Leave our home games alone! A lot of us are retired., we would rather get with some good friends and play a little Hold'em and not spend an arm and a leg going to a movie and going out to eat ! No criminal activity at our games and all good people!
sad to see this

Pooler, GA

#38 Jun 4, 2008
YES swat, used way too much force. Loaded assault rifles, pointed at business men, flash bangs. yea do the math 5grand by 25 people, its a 200 dollar game, a freaking tank of gas. nice very nice..
You forgot to mention how they trashed the house, found nothing, but a clean game, ohh but dont forget the plasma tv's that seemed to dissappear in the name of "those must be related to gambling"
AND LASTLY THATS NOT THE HOUSE'S MONEY, THAT WAS PLAYERS MONEY THE COPS TOOK. how do you think the chips got in play you idiot.
More Force

Spring, TX

#39 Jun 4, 2008
The police needed to use more force. They probably spent in excess of 15K to net these criminals. But that went to invaluable training as they search the streets for those hardened criminals. Too bad they skip all the crack houses and chops shops. At least they got one 2/5 game off the streets. I feel safer all ready.

Since: Sep 07

Hurst, TX

#40 Jun 6, 2008
Kinda lousy that you can't play Texas Hold 'Em in TX.
frank

Hurst, TX

#42 Jun 8, 2008
Have you ever been to a bowling alley on league night?

Bowling has been stated by the state of Texas to be a game of skill, this makes it legal for the players to bet on the games that they play in. This does not allow non-players to bet.(read the law).
But more money changes hands between non-players then the players ever thought of. You do not see the police raiding bowling alleys. I can win or lose a lot of money at a bowling alley and not even have the fun of playing the game.

Poker has not been found to be a game of skill or chance by the state of Texas in any form, tournament, cash, 7 card stud,. so this leave it up to the people (12). if this case goes to a jury, I think the people will find that poker is skill based and then we can all play poker.
jack barnes

United States

#43 Jun 8, 2008
jcg wrote:
I keep seeing all these poker raids in the news, All you here is they seize thousands of dollars in cash. Lets get real, are they seizing $2,000, or $80,000. The real question I have is How much does it cost to exucute one of these raids. I mean swat team, police, undercover narcotics unit. Maybe you can look into that.


well in Texas a police dept came take your house or the instrument that was used to commit the felony act.So the picture is bigger police take the money , the house " instrument " where the crime was commited and anything they can tie into. so let say there was 10,000 cash the house was 150,000 and they can link that the people had lived off the money so let say two cars. at least 50,000 so now folks we have a good night for hurst police =$210,000 for a good hand that night . Texas has asset forfiture laws you can take the instruments from the people that were used in the crime . call it orginized crime or gambling , or call it honest , hurst still got the money and property. sit on that for awhile, who needs gas crimes.
xterra boom

Denver, CO

#44 Jun 17, 2008
i know one of the guys arrested and i think its funny. im glad that they got busted. they were told that the house was under watch and still didnt care.
xterra boom

Denver, CO

#45 Jun 17, 2008
well i think tey thought it was a drug house. so if that is the case i dont care how much it cost.
jack barnes wrote:
<quoted text>
well in Texas a police dept came take your house or the instrument that was used to commit the felony act.So the picture is bigger police take the money , the house " instrument " where the crime was commited and anything they can tie into. so let say there was 10,000 cash the house was 150,000 and they can link that the people had lived off the money so let say two cars. at least 50,000 so now folks we have a good night for hurst police =$210,000 for a good hand that night . Texas has asset forfiture laws you can take the instruments from the people that were used in the crime . call it orginized crime or gambling , or call it honest , hurst still got the money and property. sit on that for awhile, who needs gas crimes.

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