Claudia Hidic: Stranger who found aspiring actress, 17, shot dead in...

Jul 3, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Daily Mail

A man who found the dead body of a 17-year-old aspiring actress lying face down outside his house on Thursday has stopped cooperating with police.

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Geezzz

Morris, OK

#255 Jul 15, 2012
Txgirl wrote:
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It sounds to me that this was some kind of dope house.
Generally they are referred to as "Beckys" not "Bonnies"...
Geezzz

Morris, OK

#256 Jul 15, 2012
Zippy wrote:
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Chicks get you into some kind of trouble, big or small. Do not listen to them and don't take any of their advice.
I am a female and agree completely, "Behind every successful man there is a woman and behind every fallen man is a woman"
Geezzz

Morris, OK

#257 Jul 15, 2012
Ashley wrote:
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If I don't have anything to hide and my alibi (I was at work) checks then I would want to talk to the Police and help them out, especially since I found the body in my yard/porch or whatever. It's common sense.
Obviously this homeowner needs time to think, hide things, negotiate or whatever he's possibly hiding in his closet. Again, POSSIBLY because that's what people suspect if you're not cooperative.
Read the arrest warrant put the dates and times together, compare it to the date that the police spokeswoman said he was not communication with the police, and you will see that the he was indeed cooperating the police in an ongoing investigation.

Since: Jul 12

Morris, OK

#258 Jul 15, 2012
Geezzz wrote:
<quoted text>Generally they are referred to as "Beckys" not "Bonnies"...
Oops..Responded to the wrong post...Nevertheless
racs155

Camašari, Brazil

#260 Jul 16, 2012
Whoever the home owner is, one of his neighbors said that he is "a fantastic guy", that came from "a great family" of Fort Worth [http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2012/ 06/29/family-and-friends-mourn -teenagers-death/]. In another words, he's a wealthy man, that probably came from a wealthy and "respectable" family.

Don't be ashamed if the setence "paid cover up" came up your mind too, because you are not the only one. No surprise the police is trying to keep him safe saying that he's not "a person of interesting", even that he lied about not knowing Ms. Hidic, even that it's publicly knew that he received calls from Claudia hours before her murder. No wonder if this man mysterious man or one of his powerful lawyers contacted Frontenberry and Crumley in order to buy their confession. If it turn out to be true, maybe we'll never gonna know it. It's a shame to know that the truth will be buried with Claudia. I didn't knew Claudia, so I ain't trying to defend her and its not my business if she was or not a good person. I just care about the justice, and it has to be done. In the country where I came from, rich people borned in "great families" always escape from the law, and that's a shameful. I thought that in USA things would be different, but I think I'm feeling an idiot for had thinking that way.

The common sense makes me think that a fantastic guy wouldn't lie to the police as did the home owner. I don't think that a fantastic guy would have a illegal gun and sell meth in your house. If this guy were a poor latino, or black he would be treated like trash. But just because he's rich, the things are different. It's easy to put the guilty in a dead poor girl and put two thugs in the jail and come to the media saying the case is solved. Some people may not even feel sad for the death of Claudia. But you should feel sad for the death of justice.
Buck Futter

Fort Worth, TX

#261 Jul 16, 2012
Brazil, you make a lot of good points. Probably every adult present that fateful day was involved in some type of illegal activity, especially the one who took a child to a meth house. But our system only goes after the ones with a reasonable chance of prosecution. And without solid evidence that would pass the scrutiny of a grand jury, there will be no arrests or convictions. Circumstantial evidence rarely ever passes the reasonable doubt test.

The police may have more information or evidence that would result in the arrest of one or more of the other adults present. Hopefully it will come out soon.
Just The Facts

Bedford, TX

#262 Jul 16, 2012
racs155 wrote:
Whoever the home owner is, one of his neighbors said that he is "a fantastic guy", that came from "a great family" of Fort Worth [http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2012/ 06/29/family-and-friends-mourn -teenagers-death/]. In another words, he's a wealthy man, that probably came from a wealthy and "respectable" family.
Don't be ashamed if the setence "paid cover up" came up your mind too, because you are not the only one. No surprise the police is trying to keep him safe saying that he's not "a person of interesting", even that he lied about not knowing Ms. Hidic, even that it's publicly knew that he received calls from Claudia hours before her murder. No wonder if this man mysterious man or one of his powerful lawyers contacted Frontenberry and Crumley in order to buy their confession. If it turn out to be true, maybe we'll never gonna know it. It's a shame to know that the truth will be buried with Claudia. I didn't knew Claudia, so I ain't trying to defend her and its not my business if she was or not a good person. I just care about the justice, and it has to be done. In the country where I came from, rich people borned in "great families" always escape from the law, and that's a shameful. I thought that in USA things would be different, but I think I'm feeling an idiot for had thinking that way.
The common sense makes me think that a fantastic guy wouldn't lie to the police as did the home owner. I don't think that a fantastic guy would have a illegal gun and sell meth in your house. If this guy were a poor latino, or black he would be treated like trash. But just because he's rich, the things are different. It's easy to put the guilty in a dead poor girl and put two thugs in the jail and come to the media saying the case is solved. Some people may not even feel sad for the death of Claudia. But you should feel sad for the death of justice.
That is a lot of assumption on your part. This dude didn't leave his house. People went there to rob him(no sense robbing poor people from bad families). Go looking for trouble and you'll find it. There are consequences for poor choices. The consequence for recruiting two people to commit armed robbery, in this case, was death. Blame the victim, it's the American Way!

Since: Jul 12

Camašari, Brazil

#263 Jul 17, 2012
Just The Facts wrote:
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That is a lot of assumption on your part. This dude didn't leave his house. People went there to rob him(no sense robbing poor people from bad families). Go looking for trouble and you'll find it. There are consequences for poor choices. The consequence for recruiting two people to commit armed robbery, in this case, was death. Blame the victim, it's the American Way!
I'm not saying Claudia was a hero and that what she was doing was right neither I'm saying that the occupants hadn't the right of defend themselves, because it would be silly from my part. But you're talking as this house were a simple american family house. And we know, it's not ! Can't you see my point ? If Claudia was murdered in your house, by your hands (an honest guy) I could give you that, and the case was closed. But we are not talking about a normal and honest guy. There was meth being sold there, he can't be treated as an simple american family guy.
What I'm saying is that once you have a guy who don't cooperate with the police, a guy that lied to the police, and that lives in a drug house, you can't treat him as an honest and good family guy.

And firstly of all, this BS of Claudia pretending to be an hostage...it's the kind of story that I don't buy. Can't you see ? She had to have "some kind of value" to the occupants or to the owner of that drug house. Somehow, Claudia were thinking that her death it wouldn't be something desired by the people in the house or to the home owner. Otherwise, the people there would just shout: "shoot her!". If I was that thug that shot Frotenberry, and Claudia didn't had any significance for me or for my boss (the home owner) or for the other occupants of the house, and if I didn't knew Frotenberry and Crumley, I would shout: "Shoot her ! Do it right now or I'll do it myself!".

You see...There are a lot of question to be done to this guy. What kind of involvement he had with Claudia, Frotenberry and Crumley ? And what about the girls who ran away after the gunshots ? Was some kind of prostitution going on there ? Are they underage ?

And to finish, there's the possibility that Claudia was robbed days before her murder. Did she knew who robs her ? Was she trying to get back her money from who stole it ?(Idea which I don't think is right, because that's what police is for, to go after the thieves, to protect and serve, yada yada. She should had to go to the police, but some people wants justice by their own hands.) You see...When I talk about this case, people tend to think that I'm seein CSI a lot, but for me this case isn't so simple as it looks. Am I tripping that bad ?
Ashley

Euless, TX

#264 Jul 17, 2012
racs155, this is America, you are not going to get justice for 2 black guys and a dead muslim girl. I,m sorry, but using drugs in America is normal, drugs are America's cup of coffee. What makes you think that the detectives would see this (homeowner) as a bad guy when most of them do drugs as well? In fact, if you are not using some type of drugs in America you are not normal.

Since: Jul 12

Camašari, Brazil

#266 Jul 17, 2012
Ashley wrote:
racs155, this is America, you are not going to get justice for 2 black guys and a dead muslim girl. I,m sorry, but using drugs in America is normal, drugs are America's cup of coffee. What makes you think that the detectives would see this (homeowner) as a bad guy when most of them do drugs as well? In fact, if you are not using some type of drugs in America you are not normal.
Ash,

I doubt about it. Is like you saying that 9 of 10 americans use illegal drugs daily, and that is a normal habit. Sorry, but it's not like this, not even here in Brazil, where drugs are a big problem too, maybe even much bigger than in USA. So I think that you exaggerating a little, but that's ok. Well, I agree with you in a point: if someone is a simple drug user, police won't come after him/her, even better when he/she doesn't cause any kind of major problems to the cops.

But let's get back to Claudia's case... the home owner maybe is a drug dealer. And a murder happened in his house. While such things do not happen, the police may not have reasons to get into this, even knowing that the house could be a drug house. But when a murder occurs, things change drastically. Let's face it: that's a big problem to the cops. Even that in America the situation is as you're saying: "drugs are America's cup of coffee", which i doubt too much, I don't think police will see it this way. The police cares too much about public opinion, even more when the public is from an upscale neighborhood.

I think that you don't got it: we are talking about a MURDER of an underage (no matter if she's latina, if she's from Bosnia or from Mars) in an upscale neighborhood. A murder is a murder, and it'll be always a problem for the govt and to the cops. To sure that this problem won't happen again, the less they can do is to storm out the drug house and put an end to the feast. At least it will count good points in front the media. And we know that the police loves it.
Ashley

Euless, TX

#267 Jul 17, 2012
racs155 wrote:
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Ash,
I doubt about it. Is like you saying that 9 of 10 americans use illegal drugs daily, and that is a normal habit. Sorry, but it's not like this, not even here in Brazil, where drugs are a big problem too, maybe even much bigger than in USA. So I think that you exaggerating a little, but that's ok. Well, I agree with you in a point: if someone is a simple drug user, police won't come after him/her, even better when he/she doesn't cause any kind of major problems to the cops.
But let's get back to Claudia's case... the home owner maybe is a drug dealer. And a murder happened in his house. While such things do not happen, the police may not have reasons to get into this, even knowing that the house could be a drug house. But when a murder occurs, things change drastically. Let's face it: that's a big problem to the cops. Even that in America the situation is as you're saying: "drugs are America's cup of coffee", which i doubt too much, I don't think police will see it this way. The police cares too much about public opinion, even more when the public is from an upscale neighborhood.
I think that you don't got it: we are talking about a MURDER of an underage (no matter if she's latina, if she's from Bosnia or from Mars) in an upscale neighborhood. A murder is a murder, and it'll be always a problem for the govt and to the cops. To sure that this problem won't happen again, the less they can do is to storm out the drug house and put an end to the feast. At least it will count good points in front the media. And we know that the police loves it.
Sorry but, if the police is to eradicate drug homes then you are talking about a 90% of American homes including the homes of the cops (that`s a suicide). This is mostly white America that doesn't `t give a rats azz about couple of black guys and a dead muslim girl (guilty as presumed, no further investigation needed). Money talks here. No money no funny. We use drones to kill people in middle east, but we don`t use them against the drug cartels because we need them to support our habits.
Ancient Navajo

Fort Worth, TX

#268 Jul 17, 2012
Ashley wrote:
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Sorry but, if the police is to eradicate drug homes then you are talking about a 90% of American homes including the homes of the cops (that`s a suicide). This is mostly white America that doesn't `t give a rats azz about couple of black guys and a dead muslim girl (guilty as presumed, no further investigation needed). Money talks here. No money no funny. We use drones to kill people in middle east, but we don`t use them against the drug cartels because we need them to support our habits.
You've outdone yourself on the level of ignorance you display.
Ashley

Euless, TX

#269 Jul 17, 2012
racs155, here in America you can get shot like a dog and we'll call it a self defense, but it only applies in some cases. if you are the homeowner like the guy in this video you're about to see then it's the other way around. VIDEO > http://news.yahoo.com/video/deputies-shoot-ki...
Just The Facts

Bedford, TX

#270 Jul 17, 2012
Ashley wrote:
racs155, this is America, you are not going to get justice for 2 black guys and a dead muslim girl. I,m sorry, but using drugs in America is normal, drugs are America's cup of coffee. What makes you think that the detectives would see this (homeowner) as a bad guy when most of them do drugs as well? In fact, if you are not using some type of drugs in America you are not normal.
What's NOT normal is committing armed robbery. You can blame the victim, say they might somehow "deserve" or should expect being robbed and killed because they used or sold drugs.

Do you have any idea how screwed up that line of thought is?
no help 4 stupid

Pittston, PA

#271 Jul 18, 2012
Just The Facts wrote:
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What's NOT normal is committing armed robbery. You can blame the victim, say they might somehow "deserve" or should expect being robbed and killed because they used or sold drugs.
Do you have any idea how screwed up that line of thought is?
drug dealers and drug users dont suround themselves with nice people.

that is why enough of them do wind up dead....duh
Luiz

El Paso, TX

#272 Jul 18, 2012
Got what she deserved. She should have stuck to sucking penises for drugs, was probably great at it.

Since: Jul 12

Camašari, Brazil

#273 Jul 18, 2012
People that messes up with things like "She got what she deserved" are so clueless. i think nobody here is trying to defend her. There are more important points in this question:

Tanglewood is a respectable neighborhood that is near to a school. Kids and young people are always around there. And if we have a drug house next of a school, we have a big problem here. A neighbor said that the traffic of people in that house was high (as we expected to be a drug house). Another one said that he did saw "girls" running out afetr the shootout. Did he saw underage girls coming out that drug house ? Well, if he did, then, this is a bigger problem yet (maybe prostitution or pedophiles were running high there).
Pillbilly

Bedford, TX

#274 Jul 18, 2012
She didn't get what she "deserved" but she went looking for trouble and she found it.

If she was at acting lessons or at her supposed waitress job this would not have happened.

The only lesson to be learned here is that if you go out and commit armed robbery, death is one of the possible consequences.

Since: Jul 12

Camašari, Brazil

#275 Jul 19, 2012
Pillbilly wrote:
She didn't get what she "deserved" but she went looking for trouble and she found it.
If she was at acting lessons or at her supposed waitress job this would not have happened.
The only lesson to be learned here is that if you go out and commit armed robbery, death is one of the possible consequences.
Sarcastic mode: ON

Only one lesson ? No way buddy, you forgot other lessons. Let's check them out:

# If you are rich and live in an upscale house, it's ok to have a drug house next to a school, with illegal guns and maybe with some prostitution.

# If a murder happens in your residence, keep calm, and just keep denying that you knew the victim.

# If the police discovers that the victim did knew you and has proofs that you received calls from the victim in afternoon of her death, just say that you won't cooperate with them anymore. They'll go away and let you in peace, making it like it never happened.

# Black people and immigrants are always to blame. Even that there are more things to dig out in the crime that happened, if there are black people or immigrants in the crime, the case is solved. Better yet if there are black people and immigrants together.

Can't wait till I can buy a house in an upscale neighborhood. So I'll run my own drug house !!! Wish it'll be next from a school, so with some luck I'll sell meth to the kids, lol. What about drugs and prostitutes, all together ? It means double fun for my costumers. And double profit for me. That will be great ! Oh...hell no, I forgot, I'm an immigrant !!!

Sarcastic mode: OFF
harry

Kazimierz Dolny, Poland

#276 Aug 3, 2012
i glad that this bitch gone

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