West Shore students to protest district cuts

There are 14 comments on the York Dispatch story from Mar 17, 2011, titled West Shore students to protest district cuts. In it, York Dispatch reports that:

Some West Shore School District students aren't going to take potential budget cuts lying down.

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FCS

Mechanicsburg, PA

#25 Mar 23, 2011
I know the student mentioned in this article and she has been badly hurt by all the board's decisions. Her dream is crushed and now has to say goodbye to someone who means a lot to her. She understands that money is a huge problem and people are furious about the tax increases, but she also has a job and has to pay taxes just like you all do. Students have a lot more responsibility with their money and paying for things themselves. Please don't be like the people on Pennlive and harass the students for doing what they think is right and don't crush their dreams. I know the student mentioned in this article will not be shut down by the board and is working extremely hard to not give up hope. She is passionate about these classes and teachers. Students know about the money problems, so don't talk to them like their children. There seem to be many other acceptable options that the school board never considered, like the pay freezes other districts are using to save money. Here the school board rushed into a vote, before the Union made the suggestion to freeze salries. Talk to any teacher in the district, they would have agreed to freeze their pay to save those jobs. Most of the students are more mature then a lot of grown ups. Instead of knocking them down try boosting them up. I also know that this students family and friends support her 100% and they are very proud of her for standing up for what she believes in. Give these students more credit. They are incredibly smart and they know what their doing. They just want to make a difference.
school 101

Lewisberry, PA

#26 Mar 23, 2011
i dont want the cuts!!!!!!!!!
Brad

Lewisberry, PA

#27 Mar 24, 2011
GrowUp wrote:
Parents need to sit down with their kids and explan how dire the economic situation is for most property tax payers and at most schools in South Central PA.
If $$$ grew on trees then the teachers could keep their job and make $75K+, no programs would be cut, etc. But that is not reality in fact that is "pie in the sky" thinking.
Tough choices have to be made. Deep cuts even to programs that are beneficial but are NOT essential to reading, writing, arithmetic need to be made. And if teachers are unwilling to concede to pay cuts or pay increase freezes, then they do so at the expense of some of their colleagues jobs. I personally would hate to know that my 3% increase came at the expense of my colleague's job because I had more tenure, etc.
So instead or parents supporting the "sit down", explain to their kids what it means to live within a budget...and to cut, cut, cut if you have been living outside your means and now you have to pay the piper.
Here's the thing some of you fail to understand. The students of the WSSD have tried to offer alternatives to the board, such as a pay freeze (which isn't happening because they didn't listen) We're not just complaining because cuts are being made, but trying to help them find feasible alternatives.
Grow Up

Mount Wolf, PA

#28 Mar 24, 2011
FCS wrote:
I know the student mentioned...She is passionate about these classes and teachers. Students know about the money problems, so don't talk to them like their children. Give these students more credit. They are incredibly smart and they know what their doing. They just want to make a difference.
Fascinating you must have picked the one student out of 10 (ie: 10%) that really understands. I see/hear Facebook comments, I see/hear teens at the mall, movies, football games, etc. and my impression is most can't see past the next weekends party or get together. They take for granted that their parents (ie: adults / taxpayers)$$ is a well that rarely if ever runs dry while they sit texting on their IPhones acting like they will die if they aren't wearing the latest fashion trends or have a date to the school dance. In other words, they are fairly normal kids/teens. But as hurt as they may be it is lessons better learned while they are young so when they are older they will choose to live within their means...and hopefully they will not have to make deep, deep cuts because they will have lived and spent their $$ wisely and responsibily.
alumni

Kutztown, PA

#29 Mar 24, 2011
In The Know wrote:
This "student-led protest" has adults behind it.
A student quoted in the article has aspirations to be a teacher in the future.
She is no doubt involved in the West Shore FEA (Future Educators Of America). FEA is affiliatedn with the teachers union-National Education Association-Pennsylvania State Education Association.
This could very well be a teacher union insipired protest using students as pawns.
I know for a fact that this is wrong. Let's just say I know the girl quoted in the article quite well and that is not the case at all. Yes the teachers are fearful of becoming unemployed, but these are classes the students love and teachers that they look up to and don't want to see any of that disappear. Many of these students protesting are learning about the basic politics in their communities and, lets face it, our future. By the looks of it, we have a bright future of children ahead of us who want to stand up for what they believe in and who are we to shoot them down? Let them live and learn themselves.
alumni

Kutztown, PA

#30 Mar 24, 2011
FCS wrote:
I know the student mentioned in this article and she has been badly hurt by all the board's decisions. Her dream is crushed and now has to say goodbye to someone who means a lot to her. She understands that money is a huge problem and people are furious about the tax increases, but she also has a job and has to pay taxes just like you all do. Students have a lot more responsibility with their money and paying for things themselves. Please don't be like the people on Pennlive and harass the students for doing what they think is right and don't crush their dreams. I know the student mentioned in this article will not be shut down by the board and is working extremely hard to not give up hope. She is passionate about these classes and teachers. Students know about the money problems, so don't talk to them like their children. There seem to be many other acceptable options that the school board never considered, like the pay freezes other districts are using to save money. Here the school board rushed into a vote, before the Union made the suggestion to freeze salries. Talk to any teacher in the district, they would have agreed to freeze their pay to save those jobs. Most of the students are more mature then a lot of grown ups. Instead of knocking them down try boosting them up. I also know that this students family and friends support her 100% and they are very proud of her for standing up for what she believes in. Give these students more credit. They are incredibly smart and they know what their doing. They just want to make a difference.
She's a great kid! Let's keep supporting her in all she's trying to do!
proud of students

York, PA

#31 Mar 24, 2011
Grow Up wrote:
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Fascinating you must have picked the one student out of 10 (ie: 10%) that really understands. I see/hear Facebook comments, I see/hear teens at the mall, movies, football games, etc. and my impression is most can't see past the next weekends party or get together. They take for granted that their parents (ie: adults / taxpayers)$$ is a well that rarely if ever runs dry while they sit texting on their IPhones acting like they will die if they aren't wearing the latest fashion trends or have a date to the school dance. In other words, they are fairly normal kids/teens. But as hurt as they may be it is lessons better learned while they are young so when they are older they will choose to live within their means...and hopefully they will not have to make deep, deep cuts because they will have lived and spent their $$ wisely and responsibily.
How many of those other 90% are your kids??? I think I smell a trend
Token Ring

York, PA

#32 Mar 25, 2011
It isn't right to crush these kids' dreams. They should be allowed to wait till they are older like the rest of us before that happens. Right now they know everything and to pull that rug out from under them could be devastating.
Grow Up

York, PA

#33 Mar 25, 2011
proud of students wrote:
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How many of those other 90% are your kids??? I think I smell a trend
Call it like I see it and you don't have to look far to see it...but you do have to take off the rose colored "my kid is perfect" glasses.
Etters Dad

Towson, MD

#34 Mar 29, 2011
No more taxes wrote:
Are any of the students interested in how the ever increasing property tax will force some people out of their homes?
If you are that close on $ that a few hundred $ in the course of a year will bankrupt you, you have bigger issues!
We already have some of the lowest taxes in the county! As I figured when I purchaed my home, taxes will eventually go up! Plan ahead and do the best you can!
How do you think the housing market got screwed up to begin with? People purchasing way more than they could afford?

So if a tax increase is going to cause someone to loose their home, maybe somebody should have thought about a cheaper house, one less car, no pool, or whatever it was that caused them to blow the wad and keep them in dire straights.

I do understand that some people may now be unemployed for some time. I can respect that and I do feel for you!
Oh my

York, PA

#35 Mar 29, 2011
Shawn wrote:
Let's see... statistics clearly show the people that make the most in the US (top 1 or 2%) have seen there income go up and everyone else is pretty much where they were 10 years ago except paying more for gas and taxes, etc. Sure let's all take pay cuts, cut service to schools and give the top 1 or 2% some more tax breaks. Heck the top 1 or 2% probably send their kids to private schools so this won't affect them. Maybe some more subsidies to the oil companies and maybe even some for the big banks we bailed out only to have them foreclose on everyone they possible could even if it was done illegally.
Possibly the most basics Economics 101 course is in order for you. Not sure you could even handle the basic course though. And WHAT PERCENTAGE of taxes do those 1 or 2% of the population pay? Won't even bother to explain it to you as you and your ilk have not the slightest idea of what turns this world! PEACE! Now go remove the fries, they're burning!
make you squeal

York, PA

#36 Mar 29, 2011
Oh my wrote:
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Possibly the most basics Economics 101 course is in order for you. Not sure you could even handle the basic course though. And WHAT PERCENTAGE of taxes do those 1 or 2% of the population pay? Won't even bother to explain it to you as you and your ilk have not the slightest idea of what turns this world! PEACE! Now go remove the fries, they're burning!
None. they pay zero! greta example is GE, parent companty of MSNBC who has the fat ass fear monger Ed Schultz who shouts about union teachers losing jobs and cuts because the rich don't pay their bills. He ought to start with his own bosses!
Follow Up Needed

York, PA

#37 Mar 29, 2011
So did they have their sit in and what did it accomplish?
Frank

Dover, PA

#38 Mar 29, 2011
Fire all the scum bag union members and hire the ones right out of college!!

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