Visit Estes Park board passes resolution to support EPMC/Anschutz Wellness Center Project
Full story: Estes Park Trail-Gazette
#1 Feb 22, 2014
Maybe I'm a little dense here, but I just don't get it. I don't understand how this proposed wellness center can help the Estes Park economy in the winter months. Are more visitors going to make the trip up the mountain roads braving the winter weather from Loveland, or Boulder, or surrounding areas braving the winter road conditions just to visit this wellness center? Somehow I think not. I just don't see people coming to Estes Park for the sole purpose of visiting a wellness center during the winter or perhaps at any other time during the year. My apologies to the supporters of this effort, but I just don't get it.
#2 Feb 22, 2014
The supporters don't get it either. They only believe what John Cullen and his rich supporters tell them and they can't see beyond their noses. Of course another medical center isn't going to speak against it, and Visit Estes Park won't speak against it as they might loose their credibility with the town. Heaven forbid both ups and downs of the proposed wellness center can't be put on the table. How about THE WHAT IF'S?
#3 Feb 22, 2014
Like the what if'; if it fails to generate enough revenue,and we the taxpayer have to pick up the bill because EPMC is attached to it?...
#4 Feb 26, 2014
you really don't understand how this all works. The hospital will run the wellness center, not own it. The risk is on the Stanley. It also is a huge benefit to be tied to the Anschutz foundation and the credibility that comes with being connected to one of the top medical educational/research groups in the country. Does this not seem to make sense to you? Medicine is advancing and EP has the chance to be on the front line with that advancement. But no, Tom H wants the elk to have a playground. Good idea Tom. Lets fight growth! Lets not forget that Estes Park is a TOWN. It is a TOWN made up of people. Not a wildlife refuge. We have lots of space for wildlife. The town planner stated just last night that including all of the downtown area we have a total of 16% open space in our downtown area. This is one of the highest and exceeds the recommended values for urban planning. We already are very rich in open space. What we dont have is year round economic growth and support. Our schools are dying, our working class is struggling. Open your eyes Tom H and stop fighting change for the sake of fighting change. You are asking the town (and thus the taxpayers) to throw away an opportunity and 1.65 million in instant revenue, along with 200k/year in sales tax and about 200k in building and permit fees. This doesn't even account for the positive benefits to all the local businesses and the many jobs, both professional and common that will be created by this. You are starting to look like a fool Tom H. Your posts on this topic are both asinine and insane. Please Tom H, I beg of you to come around and see the light. This project has many more benefits to it than negatives.
#5 Feb 26, 2014
If you are going to attack Tom H. as "asinine and insane", it might be decent of you to provide your name, so that he can throw eggs at your house when this proposal loses. All these studies of Estes Park having too much open space as it is aren't worth the people providing them. If you are seriously worried about the overabundance of open space, build the wellness center somewhere on the other 15%. Your woody for this project is showing, you can barely contain the spew. Maybe get another hobby besides telling everyone how Estes Park can 't survive if we don't waste out money and remaining resources on your silly pipe dreams.
#6 Feb 26, 2014
My name is FO Stanley. And I approve this project!
#7 Feb 26, 2014
Fu** Off Stanley was very much against have sick or fat people on his property.
#8 Feb 26, 2014
The above rancor,assuming and magnifying, is exactly why the proponents of The Wellness Center are having a hard time reaching the average voter.
I am a "fool" ?...thank you for the label, and now that you have explained my position I will try to evolve my dialogue. Unlike the advocates of The Wellness Center who exhort the same old tired rhetoric over and over.
All who are perceived to oppose your idea are called "insane", at least I am....so? are you qualified to diagnose such? You lack credibility and seem to be unable to create trust.
We assert responsible growth, and a recent list of projects in the works and pending; MPEC, the stall barns ,FLAP, the multi level parking, EPIC, the Community Center ,etc... all foretell a bigger,practicable payout than The Wellness Center with minimum intrusion to visual corridors.
Why not place The Wellness Center behind Elizabeth Guild in those abandoned town homes?(another master plan gone awry). The Visitors would have a nice flat walkway all the way into town.
Growth over the entire nation has been flat,and seems on the uptake.I believe we will see a Good Spring and Summer.
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