Estes Park Obama office opens

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The Estes Park Obama office will host a Sept. 12 open house. Organizing for America -- Colorado, the grassroots movement to re-elect President Barak Obama and other democrats, has opened an office in Estes Park.
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Shane

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Four more years of socialist ideologies? More debt? More unemployment? Obama had his chance and came up well short. Are you better off now than four years ago? Wake up America.
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Shane. What socialist policies are you talking about? Unemployment has actually gone down. We are definetly better off than four years ago. If you are in the top 1%, which I highly doubt, than you might be paying more taxes. Sounds like you are taking your points from all the blatant lies that came out of the mouths of the GOP candidates last week. I've never witnessed such an embarrassment. Everyone puts their own political spin on things but to just flat out lie? Most of Obama's policies are old school republican ideas but the right has drifted so far into bat sh8t crazy land that they want complete de-regulation. F87k education, f87k the environment and f87k the middle class. Its been proven that the "job creators" dont pay it forward when they get breaks. They line their greedy pockets. Get a clue Shane, turn off faux news for a minute and do some actual research before you go spewing a bunch of bs on the interwebz
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Wake up wrote:
Shane. What socialist policies are you talking about? Unemployment has actually gone down. We are definetly better off than four years ago. If you are in the top 1%, which I highly doubt, than you might be paying more taxes. Sounds like you are taking your points from all the blatant lies that came out of the mouths of the GOP candidates last week. I've never witnessed such an embarrassment. Everyone puts their own political spin on things but to just flat out lie? Most of Obama's policies are old school republican ideas but the right has drifted so far into bat sh8t crazy land that they want complete de-regulation. F87k education, f87k the environment and f87k the middle class. Its been proven that the "job creators" dont pay it forward when they get breaks. They line their greedy pockets. Get a clue Shane, turn off faux news for a minute and do some actual research before you go spewing a bunch of bs on the interwebz
Turn off CNN and open your eyes. We just hit the 16,000,000,000,000 (yes that is trillion) deficit mark today! Go see 2016 if you want the truth. Michael Moore did his Farenheight whatever thing and that was ok but when truth is revealed in 2016, not by movie producers but by Obama himself, it is bad??????? He laid out his plan for America pure and simple and this movie shows us his plans/destruction of the USA. Can't dispute facts and data not ficton and opinion like Moore. Obama hates Israel, the only democracy overseas that totally supports the USA but Obama is destroying that relationship too. Sure, kill babies but save the whales, applaud gay marriage but demonize those who oppose such gross deviant behavior...God help us but of course you type of folks do not believe in God.
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sure dont believe in god. That is a completely different issue. If you want to discredit science and fact for the sake of religion and phony belief that is your choice. We do have freedom of religion is the country, kinda a big deal when this whole country was founded. I guess freedom to be christian in your eyes... You know who else isn't christian, your savior Mitt Romney. How does that fit into your agenda? You are so hippocritical it just is hilarious. Kill babies? Last time I checked 3rd trimester abortions, which the supreme court has ruled on, are still illegal. They have used SCIENCE to help determine when life actually begins. You prob take the GOP stance that if a women was raped she will use her mythical vagina powers to exterminate the sperm. HAHAHA yes fact and data and not fiction right? Facts seem to be a big problem for the GOP these days. Obama hates Israel? Where's the proof? Is it because he doesnt want to just rush in and start a war claiming WMD's that dont really exist?(another Bush F**K up) Obama has had to take the reigns from GWBush who single handedly ruined most of our diplomatic relationships and made a majority of the world view Americans as war hungry monsters. Your bigotted views against gays are just disgusting. It's your behavior that is gross and deviant. You need more than a clue, some serious help is in need for you.
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Nope wrote:
sure dont believe in god. That is a completely different issue. If you want to discredit science and fact for the sake of religion and phony belief that is your choice. We do have freedom of religion is the country, kinda a big deal when this whole country was founded. I guess freedom to be christian in your eyes... You know who else isn't christian, your savior Mitt Romney. How does that fit into your agenda? You are so hippocritical it just is hilarious. Kill babies? Last time I checked 3rd trimester abortions, which the supreme court has ruled on, are still illegal. They have used SCIENCE to help determine when life actually begins. You prob take the GOP stance that if a women was raped she will use her mythical vagina powers to exterminate the sperm. HAHAHA yes fact and data and not fiction right? Facts seem to be a big problem for the GOP these days. Obama hates Israel? Where's the proof? Is it because he doesnt want to just rush in and start a war claiming WMD's that dont really exist?(another Bush F**K up) Obama has had to take the reigns from GWBush who single handedly ruined most of our diplomatic relationships and made a majority of the world view Americans as war hungry monsters. Your bigotted views against gays are just disgusting. It's your behavior that is gross and deviant. You need more than a clue, some serious help is in need for you.
in God. That answers alot of your very misguided ideals. Not talking about 3rd trimester abortions, talking about conception which your mother honored by having you which is why yhou are alive to spew diparging remarks. Never said Mitt Romney was my saviour you did. Never said I would vote for him...you assumed that so who is in serious need of help...YOU but since you are your own God you already know that. I pity you...you very intolerant, judgemental, zero moral compass person...that's not my opinion it is fact that you just gave in your response. What made you so angry?
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this is my problem. I could make an argument that if you are not voting for either Romney or Obama than you are throwing away your vote. We are a two party democracy. We could all tell from your first post that you wont be voting for Obama so where does that leave us? You say Obama wants to save whales but kill babies. The Supreme Court has ruled what is considered life. Again, if you want to throw out science and fact for your religous beliefs that is your right to do so. Just dont expect everyone in America to go along with you and dont try to cram it down our throats. If you dont want you/your wife to have an abortion than dont. That is your right to follow your beliefs as an American. It is also my right to follow my beliefs and that is what you are trying to stop. I dont even support abortion for most circumstances but it should be the WOMEN'S choice. It is her body and her health.

I never said I'm my own god, just that I dont believe in the christian god, or any other religion that was thought up by MAN for that matter. You seem pretty stuck on the concept that if I or any other person isnt christian than we are in need of serious help. Well there are hundreds of examples where science, fact and common sense can completely discredit and disprove religion. So maybe its you that needs help or just to read any other book besides the bible. My problem with you is that you have a biggoted view of an entire group of people based on their own private sexual orientation. Which is none of your damn business by the way. And you hide behind the farce of religion to spew your hatred. Its a tactic that many religious people use to manipulate others to think like they do. Believe or you will burn in hell. Such a bunch of bs.
When you say things like gays exhibit gross and deviant behavior aren't you passing judgement on someone for their own personal beliefs? Similar to what you accuse me of doing.
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See wrote:
this is my problem. I could make an argument that if you are not voting for either Romney or Obama than you are throwing away your vote. We are a two party democracy. We could all tell from your first post that you wont be voting for Obama so where does that leave us? You say Obama wants to save whales but kill babies. The Supreme Court has ruled what is considered life. Again, if you want to throw out science and fact for your religous beliefs that is your right to do so. Just dont expect everyone in America to go along with you and dont try to cram it down our throats. If you dont want you/your wife to have an abortion than dont. That is your right to follow your beliefs as an American. It is also my right to follow my beliefs and that is what you are trying to stop. I dont even support abortion for most circumstances but it should be the WOMEN'S choice. It is her body and her health.
I never said I'm my own god, just that I dont believe in the christian god, or any other religion that was thought up by MAN for that matter. You seem pretty stuck on the concept that if I or any other person isnt christian than we are in need of serious help. Well there are hundreds of examples where science, fact and common sense can completely discredit and disprove religion. So maybe its you that needs help or just to read any other book besides the bible. My problem with you is that you have a biggoted view of an entire group of people based on their own private sexual orientation. Which is none of your damn business by the way. And you hide behind the farce of religion to spew your hatred. Its a tactic that many religious people use to manipulate others to think like they do. Believe or you will burn in hell. Such a bunch of bs.
When you say things like gays exhibit gross and deviant behavior aren't you passing judgement on someone for their own personal beliefs? Similar to what you accuse me of doing.
It is futile to talk with a fool. Good bye fool. You are not worth it. I will look down on you from heaven.
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Here are some verses that come directly from the Bible that christians refuse to quote publicly, proving that they selectively pick and choose verses out of context which justify their personal bigotry against gay and lesbian people. Take a look for yourself...

Some christians often quote Leviticus 20:13 against gay and lesbian people, which says...

"If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them." (Leviticus 20:13)

Let's now take a look at other verses that are in the same book as the above verse. This exercise proves that those christians who are so enthusiastic about quoting Leviticus 20:13 become awfully quiet when it comes to other verses. Far from being about faith, this is really about the desires of certain christians to promote religious prejudice against gay and lesbian people...

"For everyone who curses his father or his mother shall surely be put to death. He has cursed his father or his mother. His blood shall be upon him." (Leviticus 20:9)

Imagine what would happen today if we killed every child who was disrespectful to his parents. Most christians conveniently choose to ignore this verse, which is merely 3 verses before Leviticus 20:13.

"Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property." (Leviticus 25:44-45)

Did you ever wonder where racist Southerners and even the Supreme Court in the 1800's got the idea that slaves were just "property" and not people?

From the above verse, which most christians, in their picking and choosing, choose to completely ignore. Or, maybe someone should ask those christians if they support slavery, as does this verse.

Those Southerners were still racist, even though they were quoting the Bible to support their racism, just like some christians quote Leviticus 20:13 to support THEIR bigotry against gay and lesbian people.
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"Do not cut the hair at the sides of your head or clip off the edges of your beard." (Leviticus 19:27)

Almost no christian has never preached against the evils of shaving as they choose to completely ignore this verse as well. But that's what many anti-gay christians do...they pick and choose what to believe. So much for being a "Bible believing" Christian, as many often claim to be.

"At the end of every seven years you must cancel debts." (Deuteronomy 15:1)

Imagine the chaos that would befall the American economy if the United States Government decided to "cancel" all debts every seven years. It would be an unmitigated disaster, which is probably why most anti-gay christians quietly choose to ignore this verse, too.

"If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of the town. They shall say to the elders,'This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a profligate and a drunkard.' Then all the men of his town shall stone him to death..." (Deuteronomy 21:18-21)

If anti-gay christians were to tell parents to bring their disrespectful children to City Hall headquarters to be stoned, they'd probably lose their entire following, which is why they also choose to ignore this verse, too.

"...do not plant your field with two kinds of seed. Do not wear material woven of two kinds of material." (Leviticus 19:19)

Farmers in this country almost always grow more than one kind of crop in their fields, so most anti-gay christians choose to ignore this verse as well. If they were to preach against farmers, they'd be in an uproar.

Most anti-gay christians also ignore the Biblical command to not wear clothes that have two different kinds of material. I could be wrong, but the shirts that these christians are often seen wearing must be a cotton/polyester blend, the most common in the United States of America. Yes, they choose to ignore this verse, too. "Bible believing" Christians? Hardly. They're one of those "pick and choose" Christians.

Most anti-gay christians really ARE bigots even though they quote the Bible to back up their bigotry against gay and lesbian people. They pick and choose what parts of the Bible justify their condemnation of gay and lesbian people and ignore those which do not.

They quote the Bible against gay and lesbian people but conveniently choose to ignore verses that are in the very same chapter as the ones they quote. You have to understand, bigots usually ALWAYS use out-of-context facts ("non-sequiturs") and half-truths to justify their bigotry.

This proves that most anti-gay christians choose which parts of the Bible endorse their own personal beliefs and ignore those that do not. What does this mean for you? It means that you can truly grow in the proper study of the Word ONLY by recognizing that the Bible shouldn't be misused the way those anti-gay christians misuse it.
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Christians who quote Levitican law are idiots. It's easy to cherry pick when half of your holy book has horrendous unforgivable things to say.
"If a man happens to meet a virgin woman who is not engaged to be married, and he seizes her and rapes her but is caught in the act, the rapist must pay the girl's father fifty silver shekels. She must marry the rapist, because he has violated her. And so long as he lives, he may not divorce her.~Deuteronomy 22:28-29."
Glad we want to "uphold" the so called sanctity of marriage. Give me a break.

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