Estes Park school district decides th...

Estes Park school district decides the cops are the ones to carry guns

There are 9 comments on the Estes Park Trail-Gazette story from Apr 4, 2013, titled Estes Park school district decides the cops are the ones to carry guns. In it, Estes Park Trail-Gazette reports that:

The NRA wants staffers in schools to make everybody's day and carry guns. President Obama wants gun control, and visited Denver this week, pitching it.

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J Jackson

Denver, CO

#1 Apr 4, 2013
(P Hickey- Note to self) Purchase new signs to go under the camera signs that say: "No Bad Guys Allowed! Please, leave your guns at home, we are nice people here at the PSDR3" ... I think we may home school next year, what did you THINK the police would say?'Police Officers are the only ones qualified to respond when there's a gun involved'.[I know several folks that shoot better than cops, and you'd never be able to pick them out of a crowd] I like the Sky Marshal analogy, it's true. What is the big picture solution? Deter bad guys, then, eliminate clear and present danger. Steps to achieve this: 1) Stop hiding from GUNS (because you say that guns are so bad!!), 2) Allow and declare armed staff to protect children, if the staff so desires.

Did you hear that the bad guys aren't reading the NO GUNS signs? It's true.
77Cod

United States

#2 Apr 5, 2013
Oduuma wants your guns now. However, what will be next? Maybe take away automobiles and let everyone ride his trains that will certainly protect all those innocent people. Come on this clown is only concerned about how he looks and being the big man on the block. He is such a phony. Colorado ought to be proud, first you can use drugs and have a looney time, and now you can't protect yourself or have a constitutional right to have a gun without the government dictating to you. Sorry Colorado you should move east close to say New York or Connecticut.

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#3 Apr 5, 2013
Estes Park Police just installed and started using license plate readers. Hope all you visitors will take comfort in the fact that every time you visit our fair Tiny Town, your license plate (and the time of your visit, and your location at that time) will be documented and quite possibly used to populate a database that will most likely never be expunged.

Chances are this is "public domain" data, and advertisers and anyone who wants it might be able to demand access and copies of the data. The cops might say that's not the case, but if not, where are the rules and regulations about the use of the data, or how long it will be stored?

No oversight, not a mention of this in any public forum (except a press release declaring "Look what we bought!"), no details on how long the data is to be held or who it will be shared with. The feds offered the $$, the cops bought the equipment. The mayor and local trustees? Any input? Any oversight? Who is in charge of the Estes Park police - the citizens through our elected officials, or is it Capt. Rose doing whatever he wants?

But, let's just 'trust' the police.
Resident

Estes Park, CO

#4 Apr 7, 2013
Isn't anyone concerned that Julie Harvey says whatever she wants without truly investigating. Read the first sentence of the article: "The NRA wants staffers in schools to make everybody's day and carry guns". The NRA wants our children safe in our schools and recommends trained officers being visible to deter school violence. The NRA also recommends that each school district work out the best plan for their school system. Why is she allowed to get away with her inaccurate reporting?
Why are

Estes Park, CO

#5 Apr 8, 2013
you taking anything the NRA says with any sort of thought that they are in the business of protecting gun manufacturers and big corporations. They DO NOT have the best interest of our kids or our citizens in mind. Why are you allowed to continue to spout the NRA's agenda without any sort of fact checking? The NRA wants as many people to buy guns as possible. Period. End of Story. Game Over. They do not care about the safety of children. They do not care about the safety of LAW ABIDING CITIZENS. Anyone who is a law abiding, reasonable gun owner supports things such as background checks, magazine limits, etc... In fact, over 90% of the American people support background checks. But not the NRA. You know why? It makes it harder for some people to buy weapons and ammo. This puts a dent into the pockets of the corporations who manufacture the weapons. And who's pocket do you suppose the NRA is in? Take a guess, its not in the pocket of school kids and law abiding citizens. The NRA is the biggest excuse for an organization that I've heard of. But you will still buy it. In fact you lap up that koolaide like its your 1st drink of water after months of being stranded in the desert. WAKE UP PEOPLE! The NRA is not here to protect us. They are here to protect gun manufacturers and big business interest.
Estes Resident

Estes Park, CO

#6 Apr 8, 2013
Conservatives and the NRA don't care about protecting kids. Like the "heroes" in the military, everyone is expendable in their minds. Bullies and idiots carry guns. That's what the NRA is all about. We have the highest rate of gun violence in the developed world, because we have the most guns available to people who are bullies and/or crazy. The NRA promotes this, and yes, they do want all teachers to carry guns. That's what Juley Harvey was pointing out in her accurate statement.
Let's put all the gun nuts on notice that we don't want them living in our community. Hope they all drop dead.
Please sign your name

Estes Park, CO

#7 Apr 8, 2013
If you are going to lecture us, please provide a name, so we can determine what bona fides you have.

Gracias.
DE NADA

Estes Park, CO

#8 Apr 8, 2013
AMIGO. PONY UP YOUR NAME TOO SO WE KNOW WHO TO ADDRESS OUR BONING FIDOS TO
You never met me

Estes Park, CO

#9 Apr 8, 2013
Estes Resident wrote:
Conservatives and the NRA don't care about protecting kids. Like the "heroes" in the military, everyone is expendable in their minds. Bullies and idiots carry guns. That's what the NRA is all about. We have the highest rate of gun violence in the developed world, because we have the most guns available to people who are bullies and/or crazy. The NRA promotes this, and yes, they do want all teachers to carry guns. That's what Juley Harvey was pointing out in her accurate statement.
Let's put all the gun nuts on notice that we don't want them living in our community. Hope they all drop dead.
And you hope I drop dead? You never met me, yet call me a bully and an idiot, and a nut? I am guessing that you don't own a firearm, but you feel fine wishing me dead. Would you act on that wish if you did own one?

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