Sales tax increase would help meet Estes Park needs

Estes Park residents have not been shy about telling town officials what services they want and expect from their tax dollars. Full Story
wrong

Estes Park, CO

#1 Jan 30, 2014
if we continue to bleed the poor year-round residents with constant tax increases, they will move away and we will really go backwards.
Tom H

Denver, CO

#2 Jan 30, 2014
It's a Sales Tax increase and most of it would be paid by visitors....comparatively reasonable , as Aspen charges for parking.
Adam Shake

Estes Park, CO

#3 Jan 31, 2014
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so charge fa parking

Estes Park, CO

#4 Jan 31, 2014
Christ, let's not screw continue to screw for locals, let's charge for downtown parking and be done with it. Beats a sales tax increase
Suzanna Simpson

Estes Park, CO

#5 Feb 4, 2014
so charge fa parking wrote:
Christ, let's not screw continue to screw for locals, let's charge for downtown parking and be done with it. Beats a sales tax increase
Maintaining a paid parking system is not free of cost, not to mention the fact that changing our parking from free to paid is certainly something that would affect locals and visitors much more than a penny on the dollar tax increase. It would take years to generate the same amount of revenue.
No no no

Estes Park, CO

#6 Feb 4, 2014
Have you seen the new parking "meters"? Require no cost after the initial expense. Get real, Suzanna. Locals would know how and where to park to avoid paying for parking, the shuttle would finally have a reason to exist. Good for the environment, good for the locals. Are you idiot?
Suzanna Simpson

Estes Park, CO

#7 Feb 5, 2014
No no no wrote:
Have you seen the new parking "meters"? Require no cost after the initial expense. Get real, Suzanna. Locals would know how and where to park to avoid paying for parking, the shuttle would finally have a reason to exist. Good for the environment, good for the locals. Are you idiot?
Sorry "no,no,no" since you won't put your name, but you are incorrect on many points. Most importantly parking would not generate near enough revenue to equal what a 1% tax increase would. Visitors to Estes Park will notice that a lot more than a penny on the dollar for their shopping. I'm not sure where you get your information, but to say that there is no expense is unrealistic and false. It's a shame people can't disagree on a forum without getting disrespectful. I guess that's why most don't use their real name.
Perhaps

Estes Park, CO

#8 Feb 5, 2014
Or perhaps it is because some people have an agenda, while others are more open minded.

Parking meters are absolutely necessary in Estes Park, tax increase or not. While I'm not in favor of yet another sales tax increase (remember, we just got a lodging tax increase that our friends and relatives have to pay when they visit and we don't have enough space to keep them), you must admit that it is going to harm the locals and summer residents buying groceries more than implementing paid parking would. The parking structure the town is building better have a charge in order to eventually pay for itself, or why burden the taxpayers for something they don't want or need?
Where is the tax-free

Fort Collins, CO

#9 Feb 5, 2014
nirvana that you think the year-round residents will move to?
wrong wrote:
if we continue to bleed the poor year-round residents with constant tax increases, they will move away and we will really go backwards.
Nevada Texas Alaska

Estes Park, CO

#10 Feb 5, 2014
or Wyoming, just to name a few, places that have no state income tax.

There are also number cities and towns throughout America that charge no sales tax.

Are you not very smart, or do you just like to show off your stupidity. This is a tourist town. The above-mentioned places, either because of tourists (through gambling) or tourist-type products (like oil and gas, used by the traveling public), can somehow manage to drop their sales taxes and state income taxes to zero. Nothing. We should be emulating them. Hell, we could be emulating them, if anyone on the town board or anyone working for the town adminstration had half a brain. Instead, we have a small corps of people in town who want to create all these silly commissions and committees so they can give each other six figure salaries and take lengthy vacations in the winter, hypocritically saying we need to be a year-round economy.

Why are we raising taxes when other states and communities based on tourism find a way to lower them or eliminate them. Because we are stupid, and apparently, most of our cowlike residents enjoy being led around by the nose and paying for their neighbors, unqualified, to hold created positions that mean nothing and do nothing to better the town. Why don't we create a commission to work towards zero sales tax? Huh?

Bunch of morons.
Tired of idiots

Estes Park, CO

#11 Feb 5, 2014
Estes Park is a statutory Town, that means it's income is from sales tax, paid first to the state and then to the town. The Town Board members make a stipend, not a a salary, and it's not even 5 figures by the way, let alone 6. The Town Administrator is the only one you're speaking of with a 6 figure salary. Every board and committee and commission in town is volunteer and run by people who care, people who work hard.
straight shooter

Denver, CO

#12 Feb 5, 2014
Tired of idiots wrote:
Estes Park is a statutory Town, that means it's income is from sales tax, paid first to the state and then to the town. The Town Board members make a stipend, not a a salary, and it's not even 5 figures by the way, let alone 6. The Town Administrator is the only one you're speaking of with a 6 figure salary. Every board and committee and commission in town is volunteer and run by people who care, people who work hard.
You are wrong! Elected officials do get paid and get town government benefits and a retirement check from the taxpayers.( They can also buy more longevity time on their service). Most people are totally unaware of this.
Also your government officials in the town of Estes ( 5400 pop.) have a payroll of over $8.3 million a year for 115 employees. Not only doe your town managet make 6 figure salary but his assistant ( use to be Lowell Richardson) he made over $120,000 as an Assistant. It is very easy to find out this info and I'm surprised most people do not look into this ripoff of residents and taxpayers. Typical government.
Sheep

Estes Park, CO

#13 Feb 5, 2014
Yeah! Lets put up parking meters. No one will notice that! You said it best No, No, No when you said "Are you idiot?" Can I use that one?

In fact, lets put up a toll booth in the parking lot of Safeway like other cities do! VOTE NO ON THE TAX HIKE!!!!! The roads will be fixed. They have to be!!!!!! The money can come out of the Fire Department. They make too much money and are overstaffed anyway!!!!!!
Tired of idiots

Estes Park, CO

#14 Feb 6, 2014
Straighshooter - elected officials in the Town of Estes Park are paid a small stipend, it's not even 5 figures a year - check with the Town Clerk for verification. They get health benefits as well. There is no more Deputy Town Administrator, that position was eliminated after the flood and he made $90,000 per year. That payroll figure you're quoting also includes health benefits, so be clear on that please. The 8 million figure you quoted for 115 employees comes out to about $69k per year for all town staff, including health benefits. Who is getting ripped off?? All staff salaries are public information, there is no secrecy here.
Cut the fat

Estes Park, CO

#15 Feb 6, 2014
With all this talk about a wellness center, how about the town tighten its wide-ass belt a bit and stop bleeding the local population for more money to fund ridiculous, exorbitant, wasteful nonsense. Why do we need four different high paid CEO-type positions to do the same thing, that is, nothing, about attracting industry other than tourism to the town. Seems like the one everyone is crowing about came because of a private firm being approached by another private firm. No doubt the Ecunomic Development Craporation will take all the credit for this, but all they did was stand around getting handouts from major businesses in town. Bunch of freeloaders. How bout we get the money we need for road repairs by disbanding the EDC and the VEP and the KKG so-ro-ri-ty?

Group of know-nothing pep-squad dropouts is what we've got he-ah.
Oliver Wendell Holmes

Estes Park, CO

#16 Feb 11, 2014
Locals actually buy things other than food here? Could have fooled me. What locals would be grievously hurt by this sales tax increase? Seems to me like most of it would be paid for by the tourists.

On another note, itís interesting that NOW we want to start paying attention to our roads. Maybe if we didnít have a D on our roads from the American Society of Civil Engineers, along with an D- for our funding of them prior to the flood, they would have fared better and our repairs wouldnít have been quite so extensive.

Everybody hates taxes and loves TABOR it seems, but sometimes in life you get what you pay for. Canít buy insurance when your house is on fire. Letís not let this community falter because some people are scared to death of minor tax increases. Improve Estes Park to bring in more tourists and let the tourists foot most of the bill. What could be better than that?
How about

Estes Park, CO

#17 Feb 12, 2014
a tax that just hits the tourists then? Put your thinking caps on. Let's see, what do tourists buy in bulk that Estes Park residents don't buy any of.

T-shirts, crappy souvenirs, baubles, bangles, Christmas ornaments..........

How about this - If you can bite it or eat it, don't put a sales tax increase on it. A tax on groceries hurts locals.

Crazy idea, Used in thousands of other communities. How is it that our 6 figure directors and their assistants can't think of it?

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