Rules cover prom dates - Sentinel & E...

Rules cover prom dates - Sentinel & Enterprise

There are 18 comments on the Sentinel & Enterprise story from Mar 31, 2009, titled Rules cover prom dates - Sentinel & Enterprise. In it, Sentinel & Enterprise reports that:

Administrators required students who wanted to bring prom dates from outside of Leominster High School to register their dates with the school this year, a measure administrators say is an extra step to try to keep kids safe.

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Berlin, MA

#1 Mar 31, 2009
While many parents are happy to offer a safe and alcohol-free party for students after the dance, Binkley said, there are some who think they're doing the right thing by serving alcohol as long as the partygoers give up their keys and stay overnight.

any parent who gives underage kids alcohol should be charged,and I would bet that the parents of the kids who attend that party would not be too happy about it
Counsellor

Southbridge, MA

#2 Mar 31, 2009
Ok. First of all, I would be curious how much of an alcohol problem countries with more liberal drinking policies (France) have, vs. the U.S., where the laws tend to create a whole culture of youth sneaking around to consume, and thinking its so cool. Common sense seems to suggests that a more enlighted policy of demonstrating controlled and responsible consumption, even at younger ages, would change the whole psychology around drinking. I wonder if any statistics back this hunch.

BUT SECOND, and more important, its not the law. Underage drinking is illegal. Providing alcohol to underage drinkers is lllegal. And providing alchohol to minors (please note the difference, not all underage drinkers are minors!) creates tremendous liability exposure. Unfortunately, these laws are selectively enforced. That's sad, because the kid who thinks he caught a break this time, might end of dead the next time, or killing a friend.
beer

Revere, MA

#3 Mar 31, 2009
i like beer
gab01420

United States

#4 Mar 31, 2009
I agree with Counsellor..other countries start their children younger..I think so that it demystifies drinking and teaches minors how to drink more responsibly.
wake up

Leominster, MA

#5 Mar 31, 2009
Oh to be the "cool" parents who allow drinking of their underage children and their friends inside their homes! Please, time to think about losing your house when someone sues your @xx because of this irresponsible behavior!
Maurice Ronaldo - Mo Ron

Rockville, MD

#6 Mar 31, 2009
wake up wrote:
Oh to be the "cool" parents who allow drinking of their underage children and their friends inside their homes! Please, time to think about losing your house when someone sues your @xx because of this irresponsible behavior!
A decade ago, before the "Social Host Law" went into effect, I was the "cool parent" and allowed an "alcohol allowed, but not seen" graduation party for my daughter and her class (only) at my place. Keys were surrenderred and kids were closely monitored. Anyone wanting to get their keys and leave were first interrogated to determine sobriety and only when I was satisfied were they allowed their keys.

I thought it the right thing to do as I was told there would otherwise be a huge party in the woods, or in the sand pits. I figured it would be better to have a responsible adult, or myself, keeping an eye on these kids so nobody got killed!

Well, guess what, nobody got killed!

I would not do this today! Things have changed. I have matured a bit and the "Social Host Law" could cost you everything you own, and more!

I asked my homeowner's insurance what might happen should something go wrong today and I was told that without additional policy riders, I would not be cevered in the event of a tragedy and ensuing litigation. In short, I'd be s c r e w e d !!!

I am torn... kids want to party and drink after the Prom or graduation. It would be nice to allow a safe way for this to happen, regardless of the legality of it.

I won't do it today, but you all know damned well that the kids are still going to...

I just wish they knew enough not to drink and drive and potentially kill or maim one of their friends!

Got any answers?
buckaboy73

Lavallette, NJ

#7 Mar 31, 2009
good luck to all those in the administrators who think they will stop kids from having a few befor and aftor the prom they did it and got away with so why cant they and also you can refuse a breath test you are out of your juristdiction so you better look in to legal rams before you pull this stunt
ANNOYED

Leominster, MA

#8 Mar 31, 2009
You and your macho attitude is quite annoying. First, the correct spellings are before, after, and last but not least jurisdiction. Second, SURE you are from N.J. Lastly, your horrific spelling is just as bad if not worse as your lying ability. People get killed when they make poor decisions. Grow up...
Fitchburg Resident

United States

#9 Mar 31, 2009
Kids are going to drink..no matter what. I can see why people support the social host liability law, but then again is it based on reality? If kids are going to drink regardless, is it not better to let them do it in the safety of their homes with an adult? It might prevent things like a kid not calling 911 when someone has had too much to drink and needs medical help for fear of getting caught.
Counsellor

Southbridge, MA

#10 Mar 31, 2009
Maurice Ronaldo - Mo Ron wrote:
<quoted text>
A decade ago, before the "Social Host Law" went into effect, I was the "cool parent" and allowed an "alcohol allowed, but not seen" graduation party for my daughter and her class (only) at my place. Keys were surrenderred and kids were closely monitored. Anyone wanting to get their keys and leave were first interrogated to determine sobriety and only when I was satisfied were they allowed their keys.
I thought it the right thing to do as I was told there would otherwise be a huge party in the woods, or in the sand pits. I figured it would be better to have a responsible adult, or myself, keeping an eye on these kids so nobody got killed!
Well, guess what, nobody got killed!
I would not do this today! Things have changed. I have matured a bit and the "Social Host Law" could cost you everything you own, and more!
I asked my homeowner's insurance what might happen should something go wrong today and I was told that without additional policy riders, I would not be cevered in the event of a tragedy and ensuing litigation. In short, I'd be s c r e w e d !!!
I am torn... kids want to party and drink after the Prom or graduation. It would be nice to allow a safe way for this to happen, regardless of the legality of it.
I won't do it today, but you all know damned well that the kids are still going to...
I just wish they knew enough not to drink and drive and potentially kill or maim one of their friends!
Got any answers?
It was never "cool" to demonstrate to the kids that its okay to break the law. That's part of the problem, not the solution.

And no, I don't know "damned well" that the kids are going to do it anyway. Most of them won't, because it is illegal, and their parents have taught them that breaking the law has consequences. Unfortunately, that is not always true!

But look, I do think the solution is ultimately an attitude adjustment about drinking, including perhaps a return to the 18 age, so that kids learn to drink responsibly, instead of behind the backs of adult supervision. Not ready to advocate a law change yet, though, without the statistics to back up the hunch.
Maurice Ronaldo - Mo Ron

Rockville, MD

#11 Mar 31, 2009
Counsellor wrote:
<quoted text>
...And no, I don't know "damned well" that the kids are going to do it anyway. Most of them won't, because it is illegal, and their parents have taught them that breaking the law has consequences. Unfortunately, that is not always true!
But look, I do think the solution is ultimately an attitude adjustment about drinking, including perhaps a return to the 18 age, so that kids learn to drink responsibly, instead of behind the backs of adult supervision. Not ready to advocate a law change yet, though, without the statistics to back up the hunch.
Well, perhaps not "ALL" of us know and not "ALL" kids are going to, but given the opportunity along with a strong belief in not getting caught, they are going to try to get away with it! You can teach them til you're blue in the face that breaking the law has consequences, but those consequences only apply to those that get caught in their eyes.

And I do agree about lowering the drinking age, nevermind the stats... if we are going to call someone an adult at 18, then we should be giving them all the "perks" of being an adult, such as being able to buy/consume alcohol. Hopefully they do so responsibly.

But if we call them adults at 18 and they can die for their country, vote, go to "real" prison, then they should be able to drink. They should also be able to rent a car! Gotta be 25 for that one!

On the other hand, maybe we need to raise the age of being an adult to 21 years old instead?
Counsellor

Southbridge, MA

#12 Mar 31, 2009
Maurice Ronaldo - Mo Ron wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, perhaps not "ALL" of us know and not "ALL" kids are going to, but given the opportunity along with a strong belief in not getting caught, they are going to try to get away with it! You can teach them til you're blue in the face that breaking the law has consequences, but those consequences only apply to those that get caught in their eyes.
And I do agree about lowering the drinking age, nevermind the stats... if we are going to call someone an adult at 18, then we should be giving them all the "perks" of being an adult, such as being able to buy/consume alcohol. Hopefully they do so responsibly.
But if we call them adults at 18 and they can die for their country, vote, go to "real" prison, then they should be able to drink. They should also be able to rent a car! Gotta be 25 for that one!
On the other hand, maybe we need to raise the age of being an adult to 21 years old instead?
Some people just shouldn't be allowed to be adults!
Townie

Clinton, MA

#13 Mar 31, 2009
ANNOYED wrote:
You and your macho attitude is quite annoying. First, the correct spellings are before, after, and last but not least jurisdiction. Second, SURE you are from N.J. Lastly, your horrific spelling is just as bad if not worse as your lying ability. People get killed when they make poor decisions. Grow up...
Ah, person is probably from Leominster, the NJ is most likely where their ISP is.
The Old Man of Naukeag

Hudson, MA

#14 Mar 31, 2009
Come on people, let's admit it: you were once a teen ager too.
While we're admitting facts, when, as a teen involved with other teens, were you (be honest here) more concerned with what was legal or not, right, wrong, or anything else--other than attention getting 'fun'?
Legal age does not mean mature or responsible any more than being a teen suggests the lack of either.
Give your kids the respect they have earned...and stop making excuses for them.
Crazy

Worcester, MA

#15 Mar 31, 2009
Call me crazy, not a drop til I was legal (which at the time was 18). And it wasn't because it was illegal and I was afraid to go to jail. It because I was afraid of what my parents would do to me if I got caught.
uncle nick

Essex, MA

#16 Apr 1, 2009
i wish i got a big bottle of "perks" when i turned 18!!!!!!
wake up

Leominster, MA

#17 Apr 1, 2009
Crazy wrote:
Call me crazy, not a drop til I was legal (which at the time was 18). And it wasn't because it was illegal and I was afraid to go to jail. It because I was afraid of what my parents would do to me if I got caught.
Great response! I imagine that some of the kids attending parent chaperoned drinking parties have not been honest with their own parents about where they are spending their time?
REoL

Holden, MA

#18 Apr 1, 2009
At least the kids are allowed to bring outsiders in nowadays. They were not allowed in my time.

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