Millcreek Taxes
Watching

Erie, PA

#123 Jan 12, 2014
Ten weeks of paid vacation is outrageous and ridiculous.
Brian McGrath

Erie, PA

#124 Jan 12, 2014
Watching wrote:
Ten weeks of paid vacation is outrageous and ridiculous.
I earned every day of it putting up with idiots like you.
the economist

Pittsburgh, PA

#125 Jan 12, 2014
Taxpayer I agree with your assessment and essentially what you said was hands down factual....I think the bigger and ongoing problem though that the citizens of Millcreek are having is basically no "bang for the buck"...I don't think any citizen would have a problem increasing our taxes slightly if we felt the school board was competent enough to manage it well while smartly investing in technology, smaller class sizes and improving our schools...instead I believe the general public feels as if we got taken for hundreds of thousands in mismanagement/theft/simply unknown ....that this time we can't just simply roll over and take it...again...and again....as we close schools, have schools unable to meet the needs of current and future society and education, have schools that can't properly cool or heat their school, as we increase class sizes drastically, as we cut the technology investment, etc. etc......but then we still have to pay more!....that is the silliest investment in the world....other districts are also in similar positions but a lot of them are getting more bang for their buck like McKean, Wattsburg etc. and investing into smart areas......there needs to be a better plan....the younger parents of today will not just tolerate that....and news flash....the young parents/taxpayers are increasing, the old parents/taxpayers aren't...
Millcreek Dog

Erie, PA

#126 Jan 12, 2014
the economist wrote:
Taxpayer I agree with your assessment and essentially what you said was hands down factual....I think the bigger and ongoing problem though that the citizens of Millcreek are having is basically no "bang for the buck"...I don't think any citizen would have a problem increasing our taxes slightly if we felt the school board was competent enough to manage it well while smartly investing in technology, smaller class sizes and improving our schools...instead I believe the general public feels as if we got taken for hundreds of thousands in mismanagement/theft/simply unknown ....that this time we can't just simply roll over and take it...again...and again....as we close schools, have schools unable to meet the needs of current and future society and education, have schools that can't properly cool or heat their school, as we increase class sizes drastically, as we cut the technology investment, etc. etc......but then we still have to pay more!....that is the silliest investment in the world....other districts are also in similar positions but a lot of them are getting more bang for their buck like McKean, Wattsburg etc. and investing into smart areas......there needs to be a better plan....the younger parents of today will not just tolerate that....and news flash....the young parents/taxpayers are increasing, the old parents/taxpayers aren't...
Your argument about increasing class size is rediculous given that McDowell has class sizes of 600 graduating. How about opening an east side Millcreek high school? You have the teachers and materials already. Oh yes; I forgot that you wouldn't be able to beat Prep in sports and that IS the bottom line of ALL decisions made by the Millcreek School Board. "Do it for the children---as long as we can beat Prep at the same time"
Taxpayer

Mineral Ridge, OH

#127 Jan 12, 2014
the economist wrote:
Taxpayer I agree with your assessment and essentially what you said was hands down factual....I think the bigger and ongoing problem though that the citizens of Millcreek are having is basically no "bang for the buck"...I don't think any citizen would have a problem increasing our taxes slightly if we felt the school board was competent enough to manage it well while smartly investing in technology, smaller class sizes and improving our schools...instead I believe the general public feels as if we got taken for hundreds of thousands in mismanagement/theft/simply unknown ....that this time we can't just simply roll over and take it...again...and again....as we close schools, have schools unable to meet the needs of current and future society and education, have schools that can't properly cool or heat their school, as we increase class sizes drastically, as we cut the technology investment, etc. etc......but then we still have to pay more!....that is the silliest investment in the world....other districts are also in similar positions but a lot of them are getting more bang for their buck like McKean, Wattsburg etc. and investing into smart areas......there needs to be a better plan....the younger parents of today will not just tolerate that....and news flash....the young parents/taxpayers are increasing, the old parents/taxpayers aren't...
I agree completely.
Taxpayer

Mineral Ridge, OH

#128 Jan 12, 2014
Millcreek Dog wrote:
<quoted text> Your argument about increasing class size is rediculous given that McDowell has class sizes of 600 graduating. How about opening an east side Millcreek high school? You have the teachers and materials already. Oh yes; I forgot that you wouldn't be able to beat Prep in sports and that IS the bottom line of ALL decisions made by the Millcreek School Board. "Do it for the children---as long as we can beat Prep at the same time"
Honestly, Gino, are you still beating that dead horse? Where do you think the district oils come up with fifty million or so to build another high school? And you are wrong about having the teachers already. If there were two buildings and only one language teacher who looses out? Two of every sports team or they just all travel? Nope. The numbers do not support an east side school. They can't even fill Belle valley. Enough of that same old non sense already. You are discrediting yourself.
Gino

Erie, PA

#129 Jan 12, 2014
Taxpayer wrote:
<quoted text>
Honestly, Gino, are you still beating that dead horse? Where do you think the district oils come up with fifty million or so to build another high school? And you are wrong about having the teachers already. If there were two buildings and only one language teacher who looses out? Two of every sports team or they just all travel? Nope. The numbers do not support an east side school. They can't even fill Belle valley. Enough of that same old non sense already. You are discrediting yourself.
Thats right! We only have one language arts teacher for a class of 600! I also forgot that a huge majority of millcreek residents live in east millcreek and they are bussed to other schools to hide the fact that east Millcreek schools are really needed! I also forgot that the Millcreek school board had 8 million to tear down what they referred to as the dilapidated McDowell high school that is too small for the massive amounts of students that are bussed there from East Millcreek. Give us a break and quit pulling worn out and proven false facts from your rear-end.
Watching

Mineral Ridge, OH

#130 Jan 12, 2014
Gino wrote:
<quoted text> Thats right! We only have one language arts teacher for a class of 600! I also forgot that a huge majority of millcreek residents live in east millcreek and they are bussed to other schools to hide the fact that east Millcreek schools are really needed! I also forgot that the Millcreek school board had 8 million to tear down what they referred to as the dilapidated McDowell high school that is too small for the massive amounts of students that are bussed there from East Millcreek. Give us a break and quit pulling worn out and proven false facts from your rear-end.
That is laughably absurd and simply untrue. Check the township demographics.or the last census. Get past this silliness, you are tiresome.
Lou da Loser

Las Vegas, NV

#131 Jan 13, 2014
concerned taxpayer wrote:
<quoted text>
The next election we should throw out the do nothing supervisor McGrath and put a bonafide leader in office, like Lou Aliotta. He will lead Millcreek out of this high salary tax mess. I am urging everyone to get behind Lou for supervisor.
Lou get over yourself! You can't even win a school board election you don't have the votes to even contend with McGrath. No one in their right mind aside from Montagna would back you. Did you think going door to door telling people about Ron Wilga's sexual favoritism and gay relations with some man they fired after Maynard pushed Wilga's good for nothing self out was going to turn people against the board? No one likes Wilga as he collects money he doesn't deserve, but they like you even less.

You lead everyone to think all this money was taken and we found out it was not taken by someone! It was spent to cover expenses simply because the district needed it to cover the shortfall. Again you are getting information that your old ass can't understand or that you intentionally bend.

They took DiPlacido an incumbent from a failed board over you. You know what that means Lou? I'll spell it out for you - It means they will take gold course McGrath over you!!

Lou you only want to reward yourself a $70,000 job for which he could never handle.
Millcreek Dog

Erie, PA

#132 Jan 13, 2014
It is time for our community to come together and replace the failed Supervisor for Life" and send him off to his golf course.
Dr Joyce Brothers

Erie, PA

#133 Jan 13, 2014
Millcreek Dog wrote:
It is time for our community to come together and replace the failed Supervisor for Life" and send him off to his golf course.
Another silly idea from the failed Dog.
brian m

Erie, PA

#134 Jan 13, 2014
Millcreek Dog wrote:
It is time for our community to come together and replace the failed Supervisor for Life" and send him off to his golf course.
Ill get back to you. I'm currently taking one of my 41 days of vacation.
the economist

Erie, PA

#135 Jan 13, 2014
When I referred to class sizes....I was more or less speaking about the elementary schools(you know...the schools that attract NEW young taxpaying families who set up shop for twenty plus years) where I've had talks with multiple teachers from multiple schools and heard the same thing....the class sizes now are at state maximum or close to it and now instead of helping the kids that are struggling while still being able to challenge the kids that are excelling, the increased class sizes make it impossible to challenge the excelling students.....so the result is the entire class going at a slower pace...before Millcreek was always the district everyone wanted to be in....the prized district....now it's trending toward Erie standards....and that isn't attracting any new taxpayers!
Fairview milf

Erie, PA

#136 Jan 13, 2014
the economist wrote:
When I referred to class sizes....I was more or less speaking about the elementary schools(you know...the schools that attract NEW young taxpaying families who set up shop for twenty plus years) where I've had talks with multiple teachers from multiple schools and heard the same thing....the class sizes now are at state maximum or close to it and now instead of helping the kids that are struggling while still being able to challenge the kids that are excelling, the increased class sizes make it impossible to challenge the excelling students.....so the result is the entire class going at a slower pace...before Millcreek was always the district everyone wanted to be in....the prized district....now it's trending toward Erie standards....and that isn't attracting any new taxpayers!
Because of your supervisor stupidity and your dysfunctional school board, everyone is moving to Summit or Fairview.
Watching

Pittsburgh, PA

#137 Jan 13, 2014
the economist wrote:
When I referred to class sizes....I was more or less speaking about the elementary schools(you know...the schools that attract NEW young taxpaying families who set up shop for twenty plus years) where I've had talks with multiple teachers from multiple schools and heard the same thing....the class sizes now are at state maximum or close to it and now instead of helping the kids that are struggling while still being able to challenge the kids that are excelling, the increased class sizes make it impossible to challenge the excelling students.....so the result is the entire class going at a slower pace...before Millcreek was always the district everyone wanted to be in....the prized district....now it's trending toward Erie standards....and that isn't attracting any new taxpayers!
Again, not true. The state has no maximums. That's left up to individual districts. Class sizes are higher but the same gifted support and instructional support services are available just like before the two schools closed so if the classroom instruction is less that is on the teacher. Good thing those two schools did close or the district would be another two million in the hole.
Plus Ridgefiled was the lowest achieving building so it definately wAs one to close.'"Everyone"'is not moving. Demographics change. Contribute to the growth and improvement of the district and township instead of just bitching. Put up or shut up.
Withheld

London, UK

#138 Jan 13, 2014
Millcreek Dog wrote:
<quoted text> Your argument about increasing class size is rediculous given that McDowell has class sizes of 600 graduating. How about opening an east side Millcreek high school? You have the teachers and materials already. Oh yes; I forgot that you wouldn't be able to beat Prep in sports and that IS the bottom line of ALL decisions made by the Millcreek School Board. "Do it for the children---as long as we can beat Prep at the same time"
This is just not accurate. In many sports, BOTH Millcreek schools would surely move down in PIAA classification due to enrollment of eligible students for that sport. Thus, Prep would no longer be the natural rival. Alternatively, one school could serve as a feeder school to the other and the classification would remain - at which time, McDowell would continue to do whatever it is that they do athletically.
Citizen of Millcreek

Erie, PA

#139 Jan 13, 2014
Watching wrote:
<quoted text>
Again, not true. The state has no maximums. That's left up to individual districts. Class sizes are higher but the same gifted support and instructional support services are available just like before the two schools closed so if the classroom instruction is less that is on the teacher. Good thing those two schools did close or the district would be another two million in the hole.
Plus Ridgefiled was the lowest achieving building so it definately wAs one to close.'"Everyone"'is not moving. Demographics change. Contribute to the growth and improvement of the district and township instead of just bitching. Put up or shut up.
They should layoff some teachers and cut programs.
truther

Erie, PA

#140 Jan 13, 2014
Withheld wrote:
<quoted text>
This is just not accurate. In many sports, BOTH Millcreek schools would surely move down in PIAA classification due to enrollment of eligible students for that sport. Thus, Prep would no longer be the natural rival. Alternatively, one school could serve as a feeder school to the other and the classification would remain - at which time, McDowell would continue to do whatever it is that they do athletically.
With two schools the would drop down to AAA and then be in the same league as PREP. Correct? or am I wrong for the first time in my life?
truther

Erie, PA

#141 Jan 13, 2014
the economist wrote:
When I referred to class sizes....I was more or less speaking about the elementary schools(you know...the schools that attract NEW young taxpaying families who set up shop for twenty plus years) where I've had talks with multiple teachers from multiple schools and heard the same thing....the class sizes now are at state maximum or close to it and now instead of helping the kids that are struggling while still being able to challenge the kids that are excelling, the increased class sizes make it impossible to challenge the excelling students.....so the result is the entire class going at a slower pace...before Millcreek was always the district everyone wanted to be in....the prized district....now it's trending toward Erie standards....and that isn't attracting any new taxpayers!
Are you aware that the studies finding 25 children per class to be preferable were financed by the teachers unions? Their goal was to reduce class size to force districts to hire more teachers thus making the union bigger and stronger? There is not one study not financed by the teachers union that states learning decreases as class size increases. Just an FYI.
Withheld

London, UK

#142 Jan 13, 2014
truther wrote:
<quoted text> With two schools the would drop down to AAA and then be in the same league as PREP. Correct?
Their rating would likely vary depending on the sport. I'd speculate that they'd drop even lower than AAA for "most" sports. Of course, they could choose to play in a higher classification...

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