Fixing Erie - What are your ideas?

Fixing Erie - What are your ideas?

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anonymous

Spring, TX

#1 Oct 29, 2013
Erie citizens needs to call a "state of emergency on the City of Erie local economy. Local businesses and citizens (not economic officials that have no budget and have failed miserably) that are interested in contributing some ideas that can have an immediate inpact on the City of Erie. Be bold!

Please leave your egos out of this conversation and lets see if we can collaborate on some ideas that can be implemented today to make an immediate to the community.

Local economic development groups have failed miserably. We need forward thinking local business people and local citizens of Erie to come up with a plan move immediately to implement that plan.
Erie Truther

Erie, PA

#2 Oct 29, 2013
See my post, IF YOU LOST YOUR JOB. At the end of the day, Erie needs to make some hard choices but instead will build more bars, fast food restaurants, and pave State Street in glitter gold.
mergers

Cleveland, OH

#3 Oct 29, 2013
Municipal Mergers - Eliminate duplicative governments and school district admin by strategically merging local goverments to make all more efficient, save taxpayer $ and share services. increases buying power too!
anonymous

Spring, TX

#5 Oct 29, 2013
Great idea. Any idea how to implement and potential savings to Erie?
Hard Choices

United States

#6 Oct 29, 2013
Erie Truther wrote:
See my post, IF YOU LOST YOUR JOB. At the end of the day, Erie needs to make some hard choices but instead will build more bars, fast food restaurants, and pave State Street in glitter gold.
republican choices are always hard - for everyone but the rich.
mergers

Cleveland, OH

#7 Oct 29, 2013
Municipal Consolidation / Merger Act. of PA

http://webpages.charter.net/gdsbmmllp/consoli...

Just follow the laws in place for it.

I believe it's Erie's best chance at survival.
levi schwartz

Port Clinton, OH

#8 Oct 29, 2013
life after people in erie... let nature take its course.
Erie Truther

Erie, PA

#9 Oct 29, 2013
Hard Choices wrote:
<quoted text>republican choices are always hard - for everyone but the rich.
Hard choices mean focusing on jobs and education, instead of block parties and million dollar condos. That is what I mean.
mergers

Cleveland, OH

#10 Oct 29, 2013
Municipal mergers and consolidations since 2000

APPROVED:

2001

Wyomissing Borough, Bucks County — Merger of Wyomissing Hills Borough into Wyomissing Borough.

2002

Wharton Township, Potter County — Merger of East Fork Township into Wharton Township.

2003

Spring Township, Berks County — Merger of West Lawn Borough into Spring Township.

2005

Rush Township, Centre County — Merger of South Philipsburg Borough into Rush Township.

2008

Donegal Township, Washington County — Merger of West Alexander Borough into Donegal Township.
notall libs are idiots

Erie, PA

#11 Oct 30, 2013
mergers wrote:
Municipal Consolidation / Merger Act. of PA
http://webpages.charter.net/gdsbmmllp/consoli...
Just follow the laws in place for it.
I believe it's Erie's best chance at survival.
Don't be ridiculous. Why would any suburb want to merge with the city of Erie?
mergers

Cleveland, OH

#12 Oct 30, 2013
Survival. Erie's problems will very quickly become Millcreek's. Millcreek is almost completely built out - meaning, stagnant revenue and no growth potential.

Also, seems the ESD has their house in order; MSD, not so much.

And again,$$$. How many superintendents do you need? How many twp supervisors/mayors do you need? How many Chiefs of Police? Etc?

How about Regional Competitiveness? An Erie/Millcreek/Wesley/LP merger puts our population above Allentown for 3rd in the state and we'd slingshot up the national rankings.

101,047 (City)+ 52,129 (millcreek)+ 3,617 (Wesleyville + LPark)
= 160,841. Our population would go from the 285th largest US City to the 148th largest, overnight.

How are Fed dollars distributed?

If you live in Millcreek, what's your mailing address? Millcreek, PA?

What paper do you read? The Millcreek Daily Times?

Also, I wasn't just talking about the City. Look at a map of the County. Lake City/Girard. Union City/Twp. Northeast Town and Township? Lots of possible efficiencies to be gained. Only thing in the way are false senses of territoriality and inabilities to anticipate the future.
levi schwartz

Port Clinton, OH

#13 Oct 30, 2013
mergers wrote:
Survival. Erie's problems will very quickly become Millcreek's. Millcreek is almost completely built out - meaning, stagnant revenue and no growth potential.
Also, seems the ESD has their house in order; MSD, not so much.
And again,$$$. How many superintendents do you need? How many twp supervisors/mayors do you need? How many Chiefs of Police? Etc?
How about Regional Competitiveness? An Erie/Millcreek/Wesley/LP merger puts our population above Allentown for 3rd in the state and we'd slingshot up the national rankings.
101,047 (City)+ 52,129 (millcreek)+ 3,617 (Wesleyville + LPark)
= 160,841. Our population would go from the 285th largest US City to the 148th largest, overnight.
How are Fed dollars distributed?
If you live in Millcreek, what's your mailing address? Millcreek, PA?
What paper do you read? The Millcreek Daily Times?
Also, I wasn't just talking about the City. Look at a map of the County. Lake City/Girard. Union City/Twp. Northeast Town and Township? Lots of possible efficiencies to be gained. Only thing in the way are false senses of territoriality and inabilities to anticipate the future.
as the fairviewites move south or die and the millcreekers sqaut in the empty and worthless fairview houses..that means one thing . The black tide rolls into millcreek. end of story
beavis

Coraopolis, PA

#14 Oct 30, 2013
force ge out through emenant domain
redevelope the property with service jobs that pay under ten an hour
anonymous

Spring, TX

#15 Oct 30, 2013
It's apparent that trying to fix Erie over the last 10 years have failed miserably. Who is being held accountable? No one. First, you need to instill accountability, morals and ethics in the process.

Let's get together and start an "online petition" coming up with a list of the 10 top immediate things that need to be fixed. Give it to the elected officials with an exact timeline to fix it.

If they refuse or give excuses why they can't clear thinking business minded people of Erie will do themselves and send the city the bill.
Nasty

Fairview, PA

#16 Oct 30, 2013
anonymous wrote:
It's apparent that trying to fix Erie over the last 10 years have failed miserably. Who is being held accountable? No one. First, you need to instill accountability, morals and ethics in the process.
Let's get together and start an "online petition" coming up with a list of the 10 top immediate things that need to be fixed. Give it to the elected officials with an exact timeline to fix it.
If they refuse or give excuses why they can't clear thinking business minded people of Erie will do themselves and send the city the bill.
Anon, your optimism that Erie can still be salvaged is admirable. It is however a false hope to the extreme. Reading your post compels me to address your points one by one. Here goes.
Accountability to mistakes, mistakes on a grand scale, and mistakes repeated over and over is not on the Erie radar. If Erie was a community to demand acountability it would have done so a long time ago. Instead it's been multiple decades of the same old people, the same old party, the same old festering problems. That won't change, it's too entrenched into the collective DNA here to do nothing. Just accept it and trudge on with your life.
An on line petition ? Do you know what will happen with that ? People here will focus entirely on those minutiae details they want accomplished or provided strictly for their own selfish purpose. Things like potholes repaired on the street where they live. Snow plowing and garbage pick up to include items they individually wish to dispose. They'll miss the bigger picture as always. It's a Mario Bagnoni mentality gone amuck.
Citizens could send their list of demands to City Hall all day, every day and very little would change. Clear minded business people will never engage enough to do the jobs themselves. If they are successful they are also probably smart. At least smart enough to know better than to put wasted efforts and resources down a rat hole that can't and so often refuses to help itself. Erie is a classic example of a place where everyone wants better things to happen but would rather die a thousand times before admitting they must change their habits and behaviors too in order to move forward.
Again, if there was hope for this to happen it would have taken hold years ago. Reality dictates that's an impossibility. Smart business people and the young folks who create the well discussed " brain drain " know this better than anyone.
A Thought

Fairview, PA

#17 Oct 30, 2013
anonymous wrote:
Erie citizens needs to call a "state of emergency on the City of Erie local economy. Local businesses and citizens (not economic officials that have no budget and have failed miserably) that are interested in contributing some ideas that can have an immediate inpact on the City of Erie. Be bold!
Please leave your egos out of this conversation and lets see if we can collaborate on some ideas that can be implemented today to make an immediate to the community.
Local economic development groups have failed miserably. We need forward thinking local business people and local citizens of Erie to come up with a plan move immediately to implement that plan.
There,s a way to turn the clock of progress backward but everyone must learn to control thier consumption and not be so quick to out do eachother with uncontrolled competition. With so much commerce in the Erie area you can see why there is so commercial confusion. If there was a time coming when barter town had to be established you would only see people truly earning thier worth for they could produce with they,re own hands as in the past. But first society must to control thier consumption and thats the key.
The Problem With Erie

Erie, PA

#18 Oct 31, 2013
1 Ignorance amongst the citizens
2 Lack of good paying jobs
3 Refusal to reinvent itself

IGNORANCE: Too many people around here live in the past or have overinflated ideas of what Erie is capable of. The "good old days" are not coming back, and on the other end, Erie will never be a tourist town. Too much money is being given away to people who talk big ideas but lack follow through.

GOOD PAYING JOBS: There aren't many.

REFUSAL TO REINVENT: Medical, technology, education. Erie has hospitals, Erie's colleges (Gannon) seem to be taking over anyway, Erie needs to reinvent itself for the 21st century and stop living in the past! We need to find a way to get a lot of people working in jobs that allow them to support retail, housing, etc.

Concerned Citizen

Fairview, PA

#19 Oct 31, 2013
Mergers are like technology, job eliminators. The few that want to work have trouble finding work that will put food on the table, clothes on their back & a roof over their head.
State Street Stan

United States

#20 Oct 31, 2013
anonymous wrote:
It's apparent that trying to fix Erie over the last 10 years have failed miserably. Who is being held accountable? No one. First, you need to instill accountability, morals and ethics in the process.
Let's get together and start an "online petition" coming up with a list of the 10 top immediate things that need to be fixed. Give it to the elected officials with an exact timeline to fix it.
If they refuse or give excuses why they can't clear thinking business minded people of Erie will do themselves and send the city the bill.
Its apparent that trying to fix Erie over the last 10 years has failed miserably.......True enough but watch the coming election & count the failed office holders who are re-elected & the certified Bimbo poster child for Obama /Pelosi adoration who was defeated in a landslide election after one failed term as a congresswoman who will be Coronated as County Executive.
The Erie Times News will positively gush with joy for her Resurrection..."All Hail Kathy".
Only in Erie could a politician who failed so miserably & who was defeated so decisively ever be brought forth & championed as the savior & hope for its future.
It is what the Democratic Party has counted on for 50 years ........Erie people will never accept the reality of the failure of Democratic leadership & will continue electing whoever the Party trots out at election time no matter who or what they are or stand for.
Kathy`s Coronation will firmly establish the Ignorance & stupidity for the typical Erie voter.
Sorry Anonymous ....I have spent my entire life as a witness to the continual failure of the people to recognize the death of Erie as a place where Industry & Commerce is welcome or wanted.They just keep recycling the same cast of useless characters......I would not be surprised if the Erie Times News touted Rick Filippi to be the next Mayor,the Democratic Party begged him to run for the job & the people voted him back in.
tim leary

Erie, PA

#21 Oct 31, 2013
The only way to fix Erie is to keep it firmly in Democrat Party control. We are the Party that cares and we have done so much for the citizens of Erie the last half century.

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