Millcreek School district Law Breakers?

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Patsy

Erie, PA

#1 Jul 1, 2014
Seems as though the Millcreek School district may have decided to have Summer help (College and HS students) do prevailing wage work at the McDowell HS. They were just cleaning but are now removing floor tiles. All for minimum wage. Sad thing is the floor tile may contain asbestos. Poor college kids, looking at serious health problems for minimum wage.
Tim Leary

Erie, PA

#2 Jul 1, 2014
Oh yay, another minimum wage-tard.
Millcreeker

Erie, PA

#3 Jul 2, 2014
no no no , the Millcreek School District and board can d nothing wrong.
JoeK

Erie, PA

#4 Jul 2, 2014
Those working are probably friends of school directors and administrators. Don't worry they are not killing themselves working just earning some easy cash for themselves.
Edgar

Erie, PA

#5 Jul 2, 2014
I will stop by the school to hand out my business cards.
Legal Eagle

Erie, PA

#6 Jul 2, 2014
The Department of Environmental Protection (DEP) regulates the removal, collection, transportation, and disposal of Asbestos-Containing Materials (ACM). DEP does not regulate the removal of ACM from private residences unless the residence is an apartment with five or more units but would clearly oversee the removal of any ACM from a public school.
The Department of Labor and Industry enforces Pennsylvania's Asbestos Occupations Accreditation and Certification Act of 1990, which requires at least a five-day notification of any asbestos project and certification for the following asbestos occupations: contractor, inspector, management planner, project designer, supervisor and worker. The contractors et al on the McDowell project are required to conform with the parameters for the abatement. The school district has no role in the process.
Edgar

Erie, PA

#7 Jul 2, 2014
Legal Eagle wrote:
The Department of Environmental Protection (DEP) regulates the removal, collection, transportation, and disposal of Asbestos-Containing Materials (ACM). DEP does not regulate the removal of ACM from private residences unless the residence is an apartment with five or more units but would clearly oversee the removal of any ACM from a public school.
The Department of Labor and Industry enforces Pennsylvania's Asbestos Occupations Accreditation and Certification Act of 1990, which requires at least a five-day notification of any asbestos project and certification for the following asbestos occupations: contractor, inspector, management planner, project designer, supervisor and worker. The contractors et al on the McDowell project are required to conform with the parameters for the abatement. The school district has no role in the process.
Dream on, wait till I get done with the scallywags.
Patsy

Erie, PA

#8 Jul 2, 2014
Legal Eagle, if you only knew. I have talked to three E E Austin Employees, two Perry Construction Employees and a pair of electricians from Newco. All said that the tile being torn out contains asbestos as does the mastic. There actually are signs and sealed entrances that5 announce there is Asbestos Abatement happening.summer help has been in and out. They do not use the proper respirators they wear shorts and sneakers. They are not certified to do the work. Stop down at McDowell HS any day and see for yourself.
Paying minimum wage for prevailing rate work and then putting health risks in the equation. You do know if any of these kids ever contracts Mesothelioma Tax payers there will be destroyed by the cost. Young affluent Millcreek kids whose parents know the law? Yeah thats the max award allowed by law.
I don't live there, I don't care Isn't my kid who is going to die.
Legal Eagle

Erie, PA

#9 Jul 2, 2014
Patsy wrote:
Legal Eagle, if you only knew. I have talked to three E E Austin Employees, two Perry Construction Employees and a pair of electricians from Newco. All said that the tile being torn out contains asbestos as does the mastic. There actually are signs and sealed entrances that5 announce there is Asbestos Abatement happening.summer help has been in and out. They do not use the proper respirators they wear shorts and sneakers. They are not certified to do the work. Stop down at McDowell HS any day and see for yourself.
Paying minimum wage for prevailing rate work and then putting health risks in the equation. You do know if any of these kids ever contracts Mesothelioma Tax payers there will be destroyed by the cost. Young affluent Millcreek kids whose parents know the law? Yeah thats the max award allowed by law.
I don't live there, I don't care Isn't my kid who is going to die.
Only a true "Patsy" would have accepted the position you put forth. Read the 1990 AOACA and you will see that the contractors are the responsible agent. Noncompliance with the parameters would not only cost them their license but could also result in steep fines and/or criminal charges. Taxpayers are at no fiscal risk whatsoever as the district is not the agent governed by the DLI for the construction. Any litigation would target the contractors, who are responsible for securing the area, overseeing the abatement, and the appropriate disposal of materials containing asbestos. Mandates include reporting noncompliance or violations by any individuals to DLI. If there were violations they did not report, they are liable.
A Listener

Erie, PA

#10 Jul 2, 2014
It always looks like that on paper, but those Mesothelioma lawyers are trained to find ways around that. Much would be dependent on how the contractors defense responded. What if they pointed the finger back at the district?
No no no

Erie, PA

#11 Jul 2, 2014
Summer workers have been hired by the school for over a decade to help with maintenance and tasks. One anonymous blowhard alleges they are the major workers in ripping up oodles of asbestos and now you are hysterically speculating on mesothelioma lawsuits that might occur forty years from now? What is wrong with you people? How about determining if those rules are or are not being followed first? This nonsense is being propagated by the same naysayer who likes to stir up unfounded trouble just to feel important.
A Listener

Erie, PA

#12 Jul 2, 2014
No no no wrote:
Summer workers have been hired by the school for over a decade to help with maintenance and tasks. One anonymous blowhard alleges they are the major workers in ripping up oodles of asbestos and now you are hysterically speculating on mesothelioma lawsuits that might occur forty years from now? What is wrong with you people? How about determining if those rules are or are not being followed first? This nonsense is being propagated by the same naysayer who likes to stir up unfounded trouble just to feel important.
That is the same attitude they had when people spoke against the new McDowell.

"It will cost $110 million but it won't even increase taxes." they said.

"You're hysterical money is cheap now." they said.

They couldn't even make budget a few months ago...I'll tell you what you are - gullible.
No no no

Erie, PA

#13 Jul 2, 2014
It's being gullible to want to check facts out before jumping to conclusions? I really don't think this particular issue is anything like the NNM debacle.
Sam

Erie, PA

#14 Jul 3, 2014
The work that guy spoke bout was happening. The kids were just supposed to sweep floors but the project is way behind. So the school guy with the fancy hard hat sent a bunch of them in and they started tearing away. They did probably 5 or 6 rooms that accordin to that floor guy had asbestis in it. But hey maybe he dont know if it was there. He has done floors for almost 40 years but he dont know everything. Anyway if someoner gets sick Mcdowell will take care of it they are good people.
Edgar

Erie, PA

#15 Jul 3, 2014
No,no,no I will handle tis personally, No, no,noone wlll escape the wrath of Edgar.

"It's being gullible to want to check facts out before jumping to conclusions"

No, no, no
Citizen

Hermitage, PA

#16 Jul 3, 2014
Sam wrote:
The work that guy spoke bout was happening. The kids were just supposed to sweep floors but the project is way behind. So the school guy with the fancy hard hat sent a bunch of them in and they started tearing away. They did probably 5 or 6 rooms that accordin to that floor guy had asbestis in it. But hey maybe he dont know if it was there. He has done floors for almost 40 years but he dont know everything. Anyway if someoner gets sick Mcdowell will take care of it they are good people.
That is total bull, and your feeble attempt to disguise yourself fails.
huh

Erie, PA

#17 Jul 4, 2014
In the bond Sunday summary, there is a line item for removal of asbestos by a professional company.
A Listener

Erie, PA

#18 Jul 4, 2014
No no no wrote:
It's being gullible to want to check facts out before jumping to conclusions? I really don't think this particular issue is anything like the NNM debacle.
Bids were taken for professional asbestos removal and they got someone to do it. It all depends on if this is true or not that students were really tearing up floors installed from back in the 50's-60's. You're right we don't have 100 million on the table with this issue. Be happy citizen taxpayers care enough to look into it. Individual board members should be the ones making the calls.
Caughey Cathy

Erie, PA

#19 Jul 5, 2014
I think no,no, no, is clueless enough to be Judy Wheaton.
No no no

Erie, PA

#20 Jul 5, 2014
Caughey Cathy wrote:
I think no,no, no, is clueless enough to be Judy Wheaton.
Funny, I was going to say the same thing about you.

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