GE warns of layoffs

There are 20 comments on the GoErie.com story from Jan 13, 2009, titled GE warns of layoffs. In it, GoErie.com reports that:

GE Transportation, which has hired nearly 2,000 people in the past five years, could be poised to let some of them go.

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Annoyed

North Ridgeville, OH

#1 Jan 13, 2009
Wouldn't it be cheaper to have these guys make the wind turbines as opposed to sending the work to China where a new plant will need to be built?
Sounds like GE had to agree to build facilities and employee Chinese workers in order to get the China wind turbine business.
Good looking out for American workers
really

Erie, PA

#2 Jan 13, 2009
Annoyed wrote:
Wouldn't it be cheaper to have these guys make the wind turbines as opposed to sending the work to China where a new plant will need to be built?
Sounds like GE had to agree to build facilities and employee Chinese workers in order to get the China wind turbine business.
Good looking out for American workers
cheaper... unions here make it cheaper to build new plants in china and build it there .. goodbye GE erie
Annoyed

North Ridgeville, OH

#3 Jan 13, 2009
True....I guess we'd all be better off if we were paid like a few dollars a week like the Chinese.
mrkihn

Chambersburg, PA

#4 Jan 13, 2009
really wrote:
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cheaper... unions here make it cheaper to build new plants in china and build it there .. goodbye GE erie
How true but the narrow minded union workers don't see it that way.
Great news articles ( not really)

GE lays off hundreds in Erie while building new factory in China employing thousands of Chinese workers.

Gee in Erie the factory for building wind turbine gearboxes is already here and just needs some minor upgrades to build the bigger gearboxes but it cheaper to build a brand new factory in China then to upgrade the one here
I don't look at the GE union worker as bad as I look at the UAW workers but You GE union workers, your job is in jeopardy now and you better get off you butts now and do something about it and going on strike for more money and benefits is not the answer. Can you say concessions to keep your job. Better a job that you make some money at than asking for more money and losing your job all together.
K Mac

United States

#5 Jan 13, 2009
mrkihn wrote:
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How true but the narrow minded union workers don't see it that way.
Great news articles ( not really)
GE lays off hundreds in Erie while building new factory in China employing thousands of Chinese workers.
Gee in Erie the factory for building wind turbine gearboxes is already here and just needs some minor upgrades to build the bigger gearboxes but it cheaper to build a brand new factory in China then to upgrade the one here
I don't look at the GE union worker as bad as I look at the UAW workers but You GE union workers, your job is in jeopardy now and you better get off you butts now and do something about it and going on strike for more money and benefits is not the answer. Can you say concessions to keep your job. Better a job that you make some money at than asking for more money and losing your job all together.
Hey, if the UAW wouldn't do it, why should they?(When will people learn?)
Used ta live in Erie

Aiken, SC

#7 Jan 13, 2009
The UAW helped kill Detroit...Erie GE will be next.
mmk628

Mason, OH

#8 Jan 13, 2009
Instead of blaming GE why not put the blame where it belongs- Our Government! Our Government is the ones who allows free trade and allows for products to be made and shipped overseas for cheaper prices. They don't seem to care about the inferior products coming back into the USA, especially from CHINA. GE is just following in the foot steps of so many other companies and our government is not doing anything to stop it. Instead of typing your opinion here type it to your loco representatives where it can possibly do some good. I hope GE does not pull out of Erie, that would devastate the Erie economy.
Chandu

Hudson, OH

#9 Jan 13, 2009
Don't look now girls, but your ignorance is showing. GE makes deals in GE's best interests and this one is no exception. Wind energy is global and one day there will be dozens of plants doing this world wide. Many of those plants will be in the US.
The important thing is that it was GE that made the deal, not a competitor. If GE did business as you'd prefer they wouldn't yet be here to be piled on by igno Topix Trolls. Go back to WalMart bashing.

“Enjoying the sunshine ”

Since: Nov 08

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#10 Jan 13, 2009
Isn't this a cycle thing with GE? They hire a bunch of folks, run production like crazy then lay off and have a slower 2 or 3 years then after so long either people get frustrated and find other jobs or they may get called back to an uncertain future again.
That IS what I have heard.. maybe someone who has been employed there and laid off could give us a better idea. But this was told to me by a guy who worked there previously then was laid off and never recalled.
Jup

Hazleton, PA

#11 Jan 13, 2009
It is not the fact that union wages are "too high", it is that the government of China is offering incentives to build there. Makes perfect business sense to create a factory and then produce the goods locally at a reduced shipping cost if the cost of the factiry is covered by the government.

The United States is not the only governing body that can offer incentives to induce companies to invest time and labor in their countries. India, China, Japan, and Germany all do this... It is a global economy.

I say make no concessions. You know that eventually you will not have this employment opportunity, so why not make as much as you can while you can and invest your earnings wisely.
CRANK

Erie, PA

#12 Jan 13, 2009
Chandu wrote:
Don't look now girls, but your ignorance is showing. GE makes deals in GE's best interests and this one is no exception. Wind energy is global and one day there will be dozens of plants doing this world wide. Many of those plants will be in the US.
The important thing is that it was GE that made the deal, not a competitor. If GE did business as you'd prefer they wouldn't yet be here to be piled on by igno Topix Trolls. Go back to WalMart bashing.
Maybe if every wind farm proposed for the US, like Ripley and Cape Cod, weren't protested to stop them, then manufacturers would be more interested in staying here. I suspect they are going where the real market is. Some people talk about alternative energy, others actually use it.

With all due insults to KEEP.
asdf

Erie, PA

#13 Jan 13, 2009
CRANK wrote:
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Maybe if every wind farm proposed for the US, like Ripley and Cape Cod, weren't protested to stop them, then manufacturers would be more interested in staying here. I suspect they are going where the real market is. Some people talk about alternative energy, others actually use it.
With all due insults to KEEP.
good point...i'm not sure about china, but europe is booming with wind farms....america, not so much...i mean, it might kill some birds so it is not an option in the us.
SCABS

United States

#14 Jan 14, 2009
Most of you people making negative remarks about union wages are merely jealous. It would be OK if you had good jobs paying decent wages but you don't want anybody else to have them. If these jobs were open you would be first in line to get one of them. In reality you are already benefitting from union wages in one way or another. Your employer is paying your wages to a proportion of union wages already. This keeps you narrow minded SCABS content in not having a union. If it were not for the unions you would not be benefitting from programs like unenployment compensation or workmans compensation, just to mention a couple. Quit your whinning and stand up for liveable wages and benefits. The time has come that you can't ride on our coat tails anymore. If the reduce our union wages, are you stupid enough to think that yours will be left intact. YOU will be next.
Hap

Mason, OH

#15 Jan 14, 2009
SCABS wrote:
Most of you people making negative remarks about union wages are merely jealous. It would be OK if you had good jobs paying decent wages but you don't want anybody else to have them. If these jobs were open you would be first in line to get one of them. In reality you are already benefitting from union wages in one way or another. Your employer is paying your wages to a proportion of union wages already. This keeps you narrow minded SCABS content in not having a union. If it were not for the unions you would not be benefitting from programs like unenployment compensation or workmans compensation, just to mention a couple. Quit your whinning and stand up for liveable wages and benefits. The time has come that you can't ride on our coat tails anymore. If the reduce our union wages, are you stupid enough to think that yours will be left intact. YOU will be next.
Excellant post, the doom and gloomers who predict the demise of GE and the unions do not realize that the union props up their meager wages and benefits. Remove the unions and you put another nail in the middle class.
SCABS

United States

#16 Jan 14, 2009
As an add on to above. I have not heard any talk about senators or house representatives reducing their pensions. If they hold public office for one day they are entitled to a pension for the rest of their life. A pension of @$200,000.00. Yes thats right and they pass legislation to give tax exempt status to foreign companies that take american jobs. WE have to pick up the slack on those taxes. Even to the extent that we have to continue paying them even when laid off, out of work, and unemployment benefits exhausted. Have you heard of any legislation to reduce our tax burdens. NO. The reality is that the government is hooked on those taxes just like a junkie is hooked on drugs, they need more. Their main function is to look for new taxes to sustain their pensions. When will the american people wake up and hold the real people accountable.
smm

Mason, OH

#17 Jan 14, 2009
SCABS wrote:
Most of you people making negative remarks about union wages are merely jealous. It would be OK if you had good jobs paying decent wages but you don't want anybody else to have them. If these jobs were open you would be first in line to get one of them. In reality you are already benefitting from union wages in one way or another. Your employer is paying your wages to a proportion of union wages already. This keeps you narrow minded SCABS content in not having a union. If it were not for the unions you would not be benefitting from programs like unenployment compensation or workmans compensation, just to mention a couple. Quit your whinning and stand up for liveable wages and benefits. The time has come that you can't ride on our coat tails anymore. If the reduce our union wages, are you stupid enough to think that yours will be left intact. YOU will be next.
RIGHT ON
hank moody

Manchester, TN

#18 Jan 14, 2009
don't be mad at the union people. last year with over time i made over 120k thank you my union brothers. all i can say to the non union haters is enjoy your 7-8 big dollars an hour. in fact i think i will head up to 26th street nd buy me a new ford expedition today( with cash i may add)
wow

Erie, PA

#19 Jan 14, 2009
That is some talk from someone who probably got in a union right after high school because his dad or uncle worked there is said how good it is to get a pay check and not work because they are in a union. I do not need a union to make a decent pay the only difference is that I actually work for my pay, I do not sit and whine that management took my TV out of the break room and start a revolt and not work or if the part that I need is across the room I will sit and wait days until someone brings that part to me, let alone come to work drunk. And lets not get started on the union bus driver that killed one person and hit two others and the union still backed him to get his job back. GE union workers that get "laid off" still will make their weekly salary because after unemployment their union will cover the difference to make up for their weekly salary. Unions were good when there was no OSHA but that was it.
SCABS

United States

#20 Jan 14, 2009
wow wrote:
That is some talk from someone who probably got in a union right after high school because his dad or uncle worked there is said how good it is to get a pay check and not work because they are in a union. I do not need a union to make a decent pay the only difference is that I actually work for my pay, I do not sit and whine that management took my TV out of the break room and start a revolt and not work or if the part that I need is across the room I will sit and wait days until someone brings that part to me, let alone come to work drunk. And lets not get started on the union bus driver that killed one person and hit two others and the union still backed him to get his job back. GE union workers that get "laid off" still will make their weekly salary because after unemployment their union will cover the difference to make up for their weekly salary. Unions were good when there was no OSHA but that was it.
And you being the SCAB that you are probably already aware that it was the UNIONS that led the fight to establish OSHA regulations. Or maybe you are one of those naive people that think the companies made those mandates to protect workers. Again, you're riding on our coat tail. We don't mind carrying you but don't be stupid by adding more weoght.
Hap

Mason, OH

#21 Jan 14, 2009
wow wrote:
That is some talk from someone who probably got in a union right after high school because his dad or uncle worked there is said how good it is to get a pay check and not work because they are in a union. I do not need a union to make a decent pay the only difference is that I actually work for my pay, I do not sit and whine that management took my TV out of the break room and start a revolt and not work or if the part that I need is across the room I will sit and wait days until someone brings that part to me, let alone come to work drunk. And lets not get started on the union bus driver that killed one person and hit two others and the union still backed him to get his job back. GE union workers that get "laid off" still will make their weekly salary because after unemployment their union will cover the difference to make up for their weekly salary. Unions were good when there was no OSHA but that was it.
It amazes me that all those locomotives leave the GE plant when no one is working. I don't know how you can make such a statement when 3/4 of GE floor workers are on an incentive rate.

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