Man protests shooting of dog by polic...

Man protests shooting of dog by police in Millcreek

There are 42 comments on the Erie Times News story from Sep 25, 2013, titled Man protests shooting of dog by police in Millcreek. In it, Erie Times News reports that:

A Millcreek Township man accused township police of acting hastily and without provocation when they shot and killed his pet pit bull in a neighborhood near his home Friday afternoon.

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Erie, PA

#21 Sep 30, 2013
Why do pitbulls hang from trees?
The dog owner in Millcreek said it was a trick and the kids like it, so he taught the dog to do it.
Here's a quote about this practice from dogbite.org . A link to the article appears below.
Sound familiar?

"Wing flying is a common training activity used by pit bull breeders and owners alike. The primary reason is to increase the "bite, hold and shake" behavior. To "swing fly" or to "spring pole," the pit bull leaps into the air, locks down on a hanging rope or tree branch and holds for as long as possible. When suspended in the air, the pit bull attempts to shake, which creates the swinging motion.
There appears to be little legitimate purpose in teaching this activity. Owners of these dogs like to mislead others into believing that the activity is "fun," or in the instance of this owner, "The kids loved it, so I allowed it." The real reason behind this training is to increase the strength of the dog's jaws. So that more trees can be destroyed. So that more pets and people can be injured and killed.

http://blog.dogsbite.org/2007/11/pit-bulls-de...
gary lover

United States

#22 Oct 1, 2013
No logical reason to own a pit other than for blood sport , to much liabily
Country

Export, PA

#23 Oct 2, 2013
gary lover wrote:
It's a PItt Bull it's it has been bred for one reason , to fight in a pit and kill!
It's instincs are to KILL! they have 1400 lbs psi jaw strength , that's not a pet that is a liability!
Why don't you do a little fact checking before you post stuff like this on a public forum??
Pit Bull LOVER and OWNER

Export, PA

#24 Oct 2, 2013
It's so sad to see so many people's reaction to a DOG. NOT A TERRORIST A DOG! Pit bulls are not evil people. Hate the people you make a mean pit bull not the breed itself. Pit Bulls are good natured dogs not liabilities. Just because you've read an article saying otherwise doesn't make it true. Why don't you go to a adoption shelter and meet an actual Pit Bull that wasn't made vicious by a horrible human. They are lovers unless trained to be something else.
Buddy Hinton

Westlake, OH

#25 Oct 2, 2013
and the Oscar for best melodrama goes to...
Pit Bull LOVER and OWNER wrote:
It's so sad to see so many people's reaction to a DOG. NOT A TERRORIST A DOG! Pit bulls are not evil people. Hate the people you make a mean pit bull not the breed itself. Pit Bulls are good natured dogs not liabilities. Just because you've read an article saying otherwise doesn't make it true. Why don't you go to a adoption shelter and meet an actual Pit Bull that wasn't made vicious by a horrible human. They are lovers unless trained to be something else.
Just the facts

Erie, PA

#26 Oct 3, 2013
In the 8-year period from 2005 to 2012, pit bulls killed 151 Americans, about one citizen every 19 days.

In 2012, despite being regulated in Military Housing areas and over 600 U.S. cities, pit bulls contributed to 61% of the dog attack deaths in the U.S. even though they make up less than 5% of the total U.S. dog population.
(source dogsbite.org )

So, if it's "all in the way you raise them" everybody must be raising pit bulls wrong.
Holy Cow

Erie, PA

#27 Oct 3, 2013
Just drove by the protest.
Counted 20 people and 16 teeth.
horsewithnoname

Corry, PA

#28 Oct 6, 2013
Here's a FACT.

My neighbors behind me owned "rufus" a brindle pit bull. By all that I could tell, rufus was not aggressive, and his owners did not appear to encourage aggressive behavior. He lived with a family that included a sweet little girl, about three I think.
Just before they moved, that dog attacked that little girl and she had to be flown to Pittsburgh for extensive plastic surgery. Rufus was promptly dispatched.
I'm in the inner city and a few years back, yet another pit bull [ stray] attacked a small boy on 8th and wallace, believe it or not, a drive by shot the dog and saved that kid.
Two years ago, a pair of roaming pits killed a neighbors cat right next door. I saw it, but didn't have enough time to dispatch them.
You have to look before you leave your house
anymore.
Spare me the sing song about these dogs. They serve no purpose.
Never, ever, turn your back on one.

They should have muzzle laws here for aggressive dogs. If you choose to keep one, your permit should cost triple. If it leaves your home, it should be muzzled. If you cannot contain it to your property, it will be dispatched. period.

This would curb a lot of dog issues.
horsewithnoname

Corry, PA

#29 Oct 6, 2013
I should add:

That millcreek cop did the right thing. He acted no differently than Erie cops have done before when confronted with like situations.

I have to wonder out loud, out of all the breeds out there,[ yes, I like dogs] why do you people keep picking these unstable choices, and then whine when something like this happens.

If it walks like a duck.......
Erie Dog Lover

United States

#30 Oct 6, 2013
Make no mistake I love dogs, every dog I have ever owned was KEPT under control in areas where people were. On hikes in the Alleghany forest or while hunting my pet dogs were able to run free but since they were trained never took off away from my sight.
When other people not familiar with my dogs were around.....THEY WERE ALWAYS LEASHED.If you love your pets , you will do the same.
Cruel? Do not think so & all of my pets lived long lives & never bit anyone.
Certain dogs were bred for their fighting ability, Pitbulls are a prime example, just as an exotic pet like a lion,wolf or similar can never be trusted to be tame..... so it is with Pitbulls which can never be trusted to be docile & friendly.It is the nature of the breed ,they are born with the genetic makeup to fight & be violent.
Those people who think they can trump an animals genetic make up by giving it a cute name & being loving to it are fooling themselves.
People who play with rattlesnakes get bit, people who ignore the history of the Pitbull breed & think their pet is docile are headed for a lawsuit when Fido attacks someone.
Erie Dog Lover

United States

#31 Oct 6, 2013
Country wrote:
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Why don't you do a little fact checking before you post stuff like this on a public forum??
I doubt a pitbull has any where near that amount of bite force. In laboratory testing...300 PSI or there about was documented. I got to believe in a fight or attack they can exceed that perhaps even doubling it in the case of the larger animals. In any event being bred for their fighting ability is true & even just 300 lb PSI is far more of a bite capability then I want to experience.
horsewithnoname

Corry, PA

#32 Oct 6, 2013
Amen, Erie dog lover.

I've yet to hear a call go out for a retriever. Or read about a person getting mauled by one.

These "fashion statements" at the end of a leash are nothing but trouble.[ that is if they have a leash on]
The city [yes, now more incidents in millcreek because of the migration]would do it's residents a service if it changed some laws regarding aggressive dogs.
Yes, you have the right to keep one, but the rules should fit the breed.
danny greene

Corry, PA

#33 Oct 6, 2013
I you see the "rap" sheet and chronic calls that Shondra (sleezeball fom Country Fair) and the owner of the dog you will not be surprised by this dog's aggressiveness. I will never shop at that Country Fair again until she's gone. Shondra is a mental case alcoholic.
Blue light special

Erie, PA

#34 Oct 7, 2013
danny greene wrote:
I you see the "rap" sheet and chronic calls that Shondra (sleezeball fom Country Fair) and the owner of the dog you will not be surprised by this dog's aggressiveness. I will never shop at that Country Fair again until she's gone. Shondra is a mental case alcoholic.
Which Country Fair does she work at? I want to avoid that one too.
Rin Tin Tin

Erie, PA

#35 Oct 7, 2013
Virginia Randall wrote:
The woman that called did not want the dog killed, the cop told her it was a tranquilizer gun, he lied. When he shot the dog it landed in front of her and she is traumatized for what they did.
Why did he not use a taser if he was so afraid of a dog playing in a tree??? All the witnesses said he lied.
Law enforcement need more training on how to handle these calls about animals.
This is a shame and I think the owner should sue for the loss of his pet by an untrained officer who didn't know what he was doing and for not using common sense.
There will be a protest on Thursday October 3 3:30-5:30 in front of the Millcreek police department...If you would like to join us that would be great...invite everyone you know
The only good pit bull is a dead pit bull!!!!!
danny greene

Corry, PA

#36 Oct 7, 2013
Blue light special wrote:
<quoted text>
Which Country Fair does she work at? I want to avoid that one too.
Next to West Ridge Firehall on W 26th St adjacent to Subway. You can't miss her... a loud mouth amazon lady with dentures.
Blue light special

Erie, PA

#37 Oct 8, 2013
danny greene wrote:
<quoted text> Next to West Ridge Firehall on W 26th St adjacent to Subway. You can't miss her... a loud mouth amazon lady with dentures.
Thanks, I'll never step foot in that place again.
Boycott Bob

Erie, PA

#38 Oct 8, 2013
danny greene wrote:
I you see the "rap" sheet and chronic calls that Shondra (sleezeball fom Country Fair) and the owner of the dog you will not be surprised by this dog's aggressiveness. I will never shop at that Country Fair again until she's gone. Shondra is a mental case alcoholic.
Don't forget to boycott Sirco as well.
According to Shondra's posting on the "Justice for Gage" Facebook page, the owner of Sirco (Willy) let the demonstrators park in his lot and on his lawn (at the foot of Caughey Road) so they could march up the road together and protest in front of the police department. I heard other businesses in the area wouldn't let them park in their lots.
I wonder how much business Sirco does with Millcreek Township? Since he chose to support the dog owner over the police, if I was a township supervisor, I wouldn't buy anything from Sirco.
dangme

Corry, PA

#39 Oct 8, 2013
willy needs to march in front of his dentist's office
Wigger Paradise

Pittsburgh, PA

#40 Oct 9, 2013
I'm sure this family is just a wonderful wigger Millcreek family. They should have shot the owners as well. Them the entire problem would have been fixed. Stupid wiggers.

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