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just sayin

Sharon, PA

#1 Jun 30, 2014
WINS!!:)
the buying public

Pittsburgh, PA

#2 Jun 30, 2014
They have a right to their religious beliefs. They don't have a right to paying customers. Let's just wait a while to see exactly what they might have "won".
Tim Leary

Erie, PA

#3 Jun 30, 2014
the buying public wrote:
They have a right to their religious beliefs. They don't have a right to paying customers. Let's just wait a while to see exactly what they might have "won".
If Chick-Fil-A is any indication I would say that Hobby Lobby will "win" record business.

Especially if you malcontents threaten a boycott.
just slayin

Erie, PA

#4 Jun 30, 2014
just sayin wrote:
WINS!!:)
Yup. Won't deal with employee birth control but will deal with China who kills not only the unborn but the actually born under their one child policy. Wins indeed! Let me guess. You're a Christian, correct?
reese

Erie, PA

#5 Jun 30, 2014
just slayin wrote:
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Yup. Won't deal with employee birth control but will deal with China who kills not only the unborn but the actually born under their one child policy. Wins indeed! Let me guess. You're a Christian, correct?
Hi stupid. Let me guess.... you are a Muslim and support Barack Hussein Obama.
just sayin

Sharon, PA

#6 Jul 1, 2014
Tim Leary wrote:
<quoted text>If Chick-Fil-A is any indication I would say that Hobby Lobby will "win" record business.

Especially if you malcontents threaten a boycott.
I'm not sure if they can withstand a boycott by the homeless population!
I'm sure they're scared!
Ha ha ha
Go jump in a dumpster, boy!!
just sayin

Sharon, PA

#7 Jul 1, 2014
just sayin wrote:
<quoted text>I'm not sure if they can withstand a boycott by the homeless population!
I'm sure they're scared!
Ha ha ha
Go jump in a dumpster, boy!!
Oops! Meant for the homeless Leary!
the buying public

Erie, PA

#9 Jul 1, 2014
We doubt if men represent the largest portion of their customer base. They get their revenue from women, and if women decide to shop somewhere else will they be pleased with the effect on the bottom line? The jury is still out and will remain so until a few months of financial data can be tabulated.
Stanhope

Greensburg, PA

#10 Jul 1, 2014
My personal religious beliefs, going back to the bible, (the real one that I believe in), don't like the idea of women being equal with men. They were property in the bible and for thousands of years after that, and I believe it should still be that way. I hope some deeply religious company owners start taking a look at this. I hold these religious beliefs and they are deeply personal and based on biblical law.
i think

Erie, PA

#11 Jul 1, 2014
Most of you don't know what you are talking about. Hobby Lobby pays for 12 contraceptive pills/devices. The only ones they were suing over were for 4 that they believe can cause abortions....like the morning after pill.

Your lack of responsibility should not be an attack of someone else's faith.

Go buy the pill yourself.

Why is this an issue?
Reality

Erie, PA

#12 Jul 1, 2014
the buying public wrote:
We doubt if men represent the largest portion of their customer base. They get their revenue from women, and if women decide to shop somewhere else will they be pleased with the effect on the bottom line? The jury is still out and will remain so until a few months of financial data can be tabulated.
Hobby Lobby will do better than ever. Their biggest deterrent is the sh!tty Obammy economy.
Stanhope

Greensburg, PA

#13 Jul 1, 2014
There is an employer in Ohio with deeply held religious convictions that breasts are an evil temptation to men (as per the Bible), so they don't want to pay for insurance for breast cancer exams! Perfectly acceptable! So fun to pick and choose!
historian

Erie, PA

#14 Jul 1, 2014
July 1, 2014
Left wing hysteria ginned up over Hobby Lobby decision
By Rick Moran


The outrage expressed by the left as a result of the Supreme Court decision to allow an Oklahoma family business to get out from under the contraceptive mandate in Obamacare is beyond belief.

Social media exploded in anger and hate, as this Twitchy post shows. I would quote some of the death threats and obscenities tossed at Hobby Lobby but this is a family website and we don't do vulgarity.(Warning: Very coarse and obscene language at the link.)

We don't have that problem when quoting Eugene Robinson, the liberal WaPo columnist, who likens arguments in favor of the decision to those made to justify segregation.(Courtesy of Newsbusters):

DONNY DEUTSCH: Obviously, I'm far from a conservative and I think anyone would know where I stand on a woman's right to choose. Having said that, nobody is forcing anybody to go to work at Hobby Lobby. You know, there is another side to that argument. There's free enterprise there's freedom of choice on all sides, and if a company, an individual, privately held company, has a belief system, a value system, that they believe is part of who they are as a culture, that's their right and I think it's a person's right to say I do not choose that culture and I will go to another culture. It's a very gray area no matter where you stand on either side of these issues, I think.

EUGENE ROBINSON: Long, long ago, there were segregationists who made a religious argument and said that they found somewhere in the Bible and a justification for racial segregation in the South and, obviously, that did not hold water. This is perhaps a bit different. It deals with employees of the company as you said, nobody has an obligation to go to work for Hobby Lobby but there is another side of this and there is case law on the other side of this. I'm not sure which way they are going to go.

A dominant theme in most of the hysterical responses to the ruling is that somehow, women are "denied access" to birth control.

I can't believe we live in a world where an ignoramus like Elizabeth Warren is elected Senator. Nobody is "denying" access to contraceptives. They are right there in your drug store waiting for you to purchase them. I like this tweet from The Federalist's Sean Davis:

Liberals aren't getting it.

Davis lists 6 stupid arguments made by liberals about the decision, and #6 is a gem:

6) Your boss shouldn’t make health care decisions for you.

They actually have a point here. Unfortunately the irony of simultaneously supporting that argument and Obamacare’s employer health care mandates is lost on them. Over to you, Sen. Kay Hagan (D-N.C.)

Disappointed in the SCOTUS Hobby Lobby ruling. Healthcare should be decided between a woman & her Dr.— not her boss.#NotMyBossesBusiness

— Senator Kay Hagan (@SenatorHagan) June 30, 2014




Oddly enough, a great way to prevent employers from making health care decisions for their employees is to not pass laws requiring employers to make health care decisions for their employees. Crazy, right?

The left ignores how painfully narrow this decision is, affecting only a few family owned businesses. Reading some of their responses, you get the feeling that it's contraceptive Armageddon - that a woman will now be denied the right to plan her own family. The huge majority of women will still enjoy contraceptive coverage despite this decision. But taking arguments to levels of hysteria rarely seen needs to be done in order to intimidate and berate those who disagree with them.

Get over it, liberals.

Mommy Dearest

Sharon, PA

#15 Jul 1, 2014
Hobby Lobby will now be selling wire hangers. Employees will of course be able to use their employee discount.
Stanhope

Greensburg, PA

#16 Jul 1, 2014
My deeply held religious beliefs tell me that I can stone adulterers. It's in the bible, which, as we know, is completely true and literal. I also deeply religiously believe that slavery was not as bad as some people made it out to be. Might I make it to the Supreme Court, since these deeply held religious beliefs are so deeply held by me? Of course we're talking about Christian deeply held religious beliefs, not any other religion's. They're all going to hell. I deeply religiously believe that.
Stanhope

Greensburg, PA

#18 Jul 1, 2014
But now I want my deeply held religious beliefs to overturn a law I don't like, too! This isn't fair! How come the Hobby Lobby family can ignore a law because of their deeply held religious beliefs and I can't? The deeply held religious beliefs that I choose to follow (as opposed to the ones I don't follow) should have equal weight! Because they're deeply held! And they're religious!
Tim Leary

Erie, PA

#19 Jul 1, 2014
Fact Presenter wrote:
Hobby Lobby employees will still be able to access 16 form of birth control. No woman will be denied birth control under the ruling. The only thing they will not be able to procure is medications that cause spontaneous abortions. IE the morning after pill. This is a big to do about nothing.
Shhhhh, don't introduce facts into a discussion with liberals. That just harshes their faux rage and OTT histrionics.
knot true

Erie, PA

#20 Jul 1, 2014
Fact Presenter wrote:
Hobby Lobby employees will still be able to access 16 form of birth control. No woman will be denied birth control under the ruling. The only thing they will not be able to procure is medications that cause spontaneous abortions. IE the morning after pill. This is a big to do about nothing.
Doesn't the morning after pill not kill a fertilized egg but merely prevent it's attachment like what often occurs naturally? And if the Hobby Lobby Wobblies had true faith they'd believe God would fight off the pill and make it attach anyhow, right? Isn't the purest faith often the stupidest from a rational point of view?
knot true

Erie, PA

#21 Jul 1, 2014
Fact Presenter wrote:
Hobby Lobby employees will still be able to access 16 form of birth control. No woman will be denied birth control under the ruling. The only thing they will not be able to procure is medications that cause spontaneous abortions. IE the morning after pill. This is a big to do about nothing.
Meanwhile right-nut bags fly the "Don't Tread on Me" flag but evidently that doesn't apply to a woman who's raped and doesn't want to keep a dividing cell that happened courtesy of her rapist, probably a Christian Republican.

Why don't you nuts just say it: given enough Koch brother money you can turn back women's rights not to be Talibanned and you would like that.
The Situation

Greensburg, PA

#22 Jul 1, 2014
I don't see what the big deal is. Hobby Lobby has mostly part-time minimum wage workers and they don't pay benefits, so this may affect 10 women company-wide. The important thing is that they're Christian. And as we all know, good conservative God-fearing capitalist Christians pay minimum wage with no benefits and let them fend for themselves because that's what Jesus would have done.

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