Is Kevin Sambuchino

Created by Sam R on Sep 13, 2009

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cellmate

Erie, PA

#1 Sep 13, 2009
now he can brag from the big house
TMJ

Edinboro, PA

#2 Sep 13, 2009
moving from one big house to another lol
TWTL

Edinboro, PA

#3 Sep 13, 2009
http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article...

Ed Palatella did an excellent and thorough job of telling both sides to this story. Both sides have a good case against the other.

Ten to fifteen crowns a day?!? Wow! If you estimate on the low end cost of a single crown to be $500 that's $5,000 -$7,500 a day. And that's a LOW estimate. I bet the average cost of a crown in the Erie are is around $650 -$750, but I'm just guessing on that.

I was shocked to read that Halmi sold his practice for only $300,000. I would have thought an established dental practice, plus 30 years worth of established patients would be worth a lot more than that.

cellmate

Erie, PA

#4 Sep 13, 2009
I agree Ed did a great job. The bottom line is that it is Sambuchino, not Halmi, under investigation. Halmi has been a civic leader and volunteer in the community for decades. By his own admission Sambuchino admitted to overbilling. Now it's a matter of how much and did he intend to do it. His bragging about bilking the insurance company, admitting to his staff he knew, and the authorities having 116 documented instances of overbilling prior to the raid does not help.
ace

Erie, PA

#5 Sep 13, 2009
Tennis Star? I played (Fairview) against him in high school. He was a cheater then. Not to mention a spoiled brat.
TWTL

Edinboro, PA

#6 Sep 13, 2009
I wonder why Halmi wasn't bothered enough to confront Sambushino man-to-man, as peers, and tell him honestly that he was uncomfortable with the way he was billing the insurance company.

It's an old story. Turn a blind eye, but save it in case you need it for revenge.
tell the truth

Erie, PA

#7 Sep 13, 2009
TWTL, how do you know Halmi didn't try to talk to him or his father. You seem to want to deny the legitimacy of the criminal investigation. If you are a family member or friend of Sambuchino, I respect your loyalty but he already admitted to the fraud. Give him credit for taking the first honest step in his career.
Stu Pedaso

Girard, PA

#8 Sep 13, 2009
The non-compete issue has nothing to do with making timely payments for the practice and real estate. It looks like Sambuchino's a bit shifting and a lot scared.

Btw, they weren't 'peers' after the sale. Sambuchino was his boss.
TWTL

Edinboro, PA

#9 Sep 13, 2009
tell the truth wrote:
TWTL, how do you know Halmi didn't try to talk to him or his father. You seem to want to deny the legitimacy of the criminal investigation. If you are a family member or friend of Sambuchino, I respect your loyalty but he already admitted to the fraud. Give him credit for taking the first honest step in his career.
I only know what I've read in the paper and don't know either party.
tell the truth

Erie, PA

#10 Sep 13, 2009
Great point Stu, Sambuchino was the one running the show. Perhaps he stopped paying the employee because he had to get rid of him before he went to the authorities. Oops, a little late for that.
TWTL

Edinboro, PA

#11 Sep 13, 2009
You're right about them no longer being, Peers, Stu. that wasn't the right word. But I would think that their working relationship was not one of boss and employee, either.

There had to be some kind of arrangement in the contract that allowed him to continue working limited hours in his semi-retirement and to merely draw a salary......but not as a lowly employee of the new boss. Sambuchino became the owner of the practice, but I don't think that automatically made him Halmi's boss.

Afterall, Halmi staying on in the practice and slowly easing his patients over to Sambuchino was a huge asset.

Sambuchino can't claim "ownership" of Halmi's patients just because he bought the practice and the "charts." He did not buy the patients. They are free to go to whatever dentist they choose. If they choose to follow Halmi, that is their prerogative. The non-compete clause does not prevent an established patient from following their established dentist.

Sambuchino owns the "charts" not the "patients."

Stu Pedaso

Girard, PA

#12 Sep 13, 2009
Well, stories like this are a dime-a-dozen. Newbie buys business from older, in-the-black owner and needs to raise revenue, but not price, to pay for the business and stay competitive.

I suppose their relationship went south when Halmi found himself attached at the hip to a guy ripping off Halmi's patients to pay for the practice and tarnishing his reputation too.
TWTL wrote:
You're right about them no longer being, Peers, Stu. that wasn't the right word. But I would think that their working relationship was not one of boss and employee, either.
There had to be some kind of arrangement in the contract that allowed him to continue working limited hours in his semi-retirement and to merely draw a salary......but not as a lowly employee of the new boss. Sambuchino became the owner of the practice, but I don't think that automatically made him Halmi's boss.
Afterall, Halmi staying on in the practice and slowly easing his patients over to Sambuchino was a huge asset.
Sambuchino can't claim "ownership" of Halmi's patients just because he bought the practice and the "charts." He did not buy the patients. They are free to go to whatever dentist they choose. If they choose to follow Halmi, that is their prerogative. The non-compete clause does not prevent an established patient from following their established dentist.
Sambuchino owns the "charts" not the "patients."
tell the truth

Erie, PA

#13 Sep 13, 2009
TWTL & Stu, great points on both your parts. TWTL good point on the "ownership" issue. I am not a frequent participater on the forum but it's nice to see people moving past the B.S. and getting to the heart of the matter. I have a question, how do we know the patients even needed crowns in the first place? If he is capable of scaming insurance companies is it too much of leap to believe he talked innnocent patients into proceedures they did not need?
TWTL

Edinboro, PA

#14 Sep 13, 2009
tell the truth wrote:
TWTL & Stu, great points on both your parts. TWTL good point on the "ownership" issue. I am not a frequent participater on the forum but it's nice to see people moving past the B.S. and getting to the heart of the matter. I have a question, how do we know the patients even needed crowns in the first place? If he is capable of scaming insurance companies is it too much of leap to believe he talked innnocent patients into proceedures they did not need?
When I needed a crown, the insurance company required a predetermination form be submitted with an x-ray. The doctor has to show the insurance company that a crown is necessary and not just for cosmetic purposes.
For the People

Yatesboro, PA

#15 Sep 13, 2009
We were patients of Dr. Halmi's for 20 some years....The man and his staff were top of the line! Bring in Sambuchino and staff and I can tell you for a fact that is why we went to another dentist. Until Doc Halmi starting working in Albion. After the treatment my family, especially my husband, received from the staff, I would have drove 50 miles out of my way just to have Doc Halmi deal with our teeth. BTW, my husband needed TWO crowns under Sambuchino......After completing the first crown, they wouldn't let him leave the office until he agreed to go to the bank or mac machine and bring them back $200 as a down payment because our dental insurance didn't cover the entire cost. My husband said he would go to the mac machine, but did not return. The crown they installed fell out over the weekend while he was sleeping......Bottom line, I wouldn't take my dog to be serviced by Dr. Sambuchino and staff.....his staff (ladies at the desk) were the rudest ladies I have ever dealt with and I am glad we are no longer there.......
TWTL

Edinboro, PA

#16 Sep 13, 2009
For the People wrote:
We were patients of Dr. Halmi's for 20 some years....The man and his staff were top of the line! Bring in Sambuchino and staff and I can tell you for a fact that is why we went to another dentist. Until Doc Halmi starting working in Albion. After the treatment my family, especially my husband, received from the staff, I would have drove 50 miles out of my way just to have Doc Halmi deal with our teeth. BTW, my husband needed TWO crowns under Sambuchino......After completing the first crown, they wouldn't let him leave the office until he agreed to go to the bank or mac machine and bring them back $200 as a down payment because our dental insurance didn't cover the entire cost. My husband said he would go to the mac machine, but did not return. The crown they installed fell out over the weekend while he was sleeping......Bottom line, I wouldn't take my dog to be serviced by Dr. Sambuchino and staff.....his staff (ladies at the desk) were the rudest ladies I have ever dealt with and I am glad we are no longer there.......
Most likely, the reason your husband's crown fell out is because they only used a temporary glue until they received payment for it. I would think that would be SOP for all providers of goods/services: the customer doesn't normally walk away with the goods until they have been paid for or until payment arrangements have been made.

Since your husband's crown had not been paid in full yet, and no payment arrangement had been set up, they were wise to do what every other dentist would do - cement it temporarily.

It sounds to me like they were trying to set up a payment plan, but he gave them hhis word he would go to the MAC machine and bring them the cash payment in full. But you say he never returned.

I doubt you'll find another dentist to permanently cement his crown for him. The best you'll be able to do is find another dentist who will take pity on him and at least cement it in temporarily again.

The sooner you pay your bill, the sooner he can call them and have them cement it permanently. I wouldn't wait too long, though. If you wait too long, the crown might not even fit.
tell the truth

Erie, PA

#17 Sep 13, 2009
TWTL, your a joke and a liar. No intelligent, independent minded, educated indiviual woud repond to FOR THE PEOPLE like that. Nice try. You are the same scumbag who trashes religion on other forums. Perhaps you worship Money instead of God the way Kevin and his wife seem to do. ForThePeople, I am sure you are not alone.
Desperado

United States

#18 Sep 13, 2009
For the People wrote:
We were patients of Dr. Halmi's for 20 some years....The man and his staff were top of the line! Bring in Sambuchino and staff and I can tell you for a fact that is why we went to another dentist. Until Doc Halmi starting working in Albion. After the treatment my family, especially my husband, received from the staff, I would have drove 50 miles out of my way just to have Doc Halmi deal with our teeth. BTW, my husband needed TWO crowns under Sambuchino......After completing the first crown, they wouldn't let him leave the office until he agreed to go to the bank or mac machine and bring them back $200 as a down payment because our dental insurance didn't cover the entire cost. My husband said he would go to the mac machine, but did not return. The crown they installed fell out over the weekend while he was sleeping......Bottom line, I wouldn't take my dog to be serviced by Dr. Sambuchino and staff.....his staff (ladies at the desk) were the rudest ladies I have ever dealt with and I am glad we are no longer there.......
I went to Sambuchino to get 2 crowns, I thought they were kind of high, but I thought maybe each dentist charges a different amount, my teeth hurt for a good month, I will never go back..
TWTL

Edinboro, PA

#19 Sep 13, 2009
tell the truth wrote:
TWTL, your a joke and a liar. No intelligent, independent minded, educated indiviual woud repond to FOR THE PEOPLE like that. Nice try. You are the same scumbag who trashes religion on other forums. Perhaps you worship Money instead of God the way Kevin and his wife seem to do. ForThePeople, I am sure you are not alone.
What did you find so offensive about my reply to FTP?

I have no clue what other forum you are referring to.

I've no idea why you called me a liar. Did I lie somewhere?

I don't trash anyone's religion. The most I've ever done is post bible verses directly from the bible on THIS forum. Is that what you refer to as trashing?!?

I had no idea FTP's name is "Kevin.
You should ask "Kevin" why he never returned to even make a down payment on the crown he walked out of the office with. Sounds like he didn't live up to his end of the deal. I doubt the dentist went ahead with the crown without first making arrangements for payment. It sounds to me like Kevin skipped out on paying for the goods he was provided.

I think people who worship ANYTHING are some of the scariest people on the planet.
For the People

Yatesboro, PA

#20 Sep 13, 2009
TWTL wrote:
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What did you find so offensive about my reply to FTP?
I have no clue what other forum you are referring to.
I've no idea why you called me a liar. Did I lie somewhere?
I don't trash anyone's religion. The most I've ever done is post bible verses directly from the bible on THIS forum. Is that what you refer to as trashing?!?
I had no idea FTP's name is "Kevin.
You should ask "Kevin" why he never returned to even make a down payment on the crown he walked out of the office with. Sounds like he didn't live up to his end of the deal. I doubt the dentist went ahead with the crown without first making arrangements for payment. It sounds to me like Kevin skipped out on paying for the goods he was provided.
I think people who worship ANYTHING are some of the scariest people on the planet.
I don't know where you get Kevin as my name....I believe you misunderstood me...my HUSBAND left the office with another date set to cement the crown. He TRIED to set up a payment plan and the rude ladies at the counter wouldn't hear of it. They wouldn't accept any payment plan. So my husband to get away from them, left. He returned for his next appointment at which time he placed money on his account...but not the $200 dollars they asked for. I do believe it is illegal to require payment up front BEFORE the insurance claim has been submitted. Besides, as long as you pay at least $10 per month, there is nothing they can do. My point was, I wonder if that crown was of the "Lesser" quality material but yet they charged my insurance company for the "higher" quality material? I will have to dig out my husband's insurance claim tomorrow.

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