Where are they getting the numbers?

Where are they getting the numbers?

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Fish Whisperer

Erie, PA

#1 Jul 20, 2013
I read in the Erie Times News today that the Roar on the Shore event is expected to draw 100,000 people to the Erie area, I'm not buyin' it.
Supposedly the Erie population is at approx. 105,000 people, if we do have 100,000 people come to town that puts us at 205,000 for three or four days, I have been out and about and I don't see any huge influx of people like those kinds of numbers would suggest.
At the bottom of the article written by Times staff reporter Ron Leonardi, he writes, "About 5000 motorcycles rode into Thursday's bringin' in the Roar bike parade from Presque Isle Downs & Casino to Perry Square, according to Tammy Polanski, spokeswoman for the Manufacturer & Business Association, which presents the rally".Do the math, if those 5000 bikers each had a guest with them that would be 10,000 people right? Lets add another 1000 people with the bands and the curiosity seekers and say 15,000 and that really is being generous, where are the other 85,000 people?
I am not knocking the event, it is an accomplishment to get 5,000 people organized and moving in order at the same time, but be honest, there are no where near 100,000 people attending or partaking in this event.
It would be a great follow up article next week when the event is over and the dust settles to see how much money was truly generated for the region and at the same time see how much the City of Erie spent on the event, keep in mind it is a private entity that hosted it, how much did the taxpayers shell out for police protection, overtime for streets department employees for set up and clean up? The only business i know who really benefited from the event is the motorcycle shop on West 12th. Street and the bars and beer distributors and that is great but what was the true cost to the taxpayer and would the mayor do this for any other organization?
notall libs are idiots

Erie, PA

#2 Jul 20, 2013
Fish Whisperer wrote:
I read in the Erie Times News today that the Roar on the Shore event is expected to draw 100,000 people to the Erie area, I'm not buyin' it.
Supposedly the Erie population is at approx. 105,000 people, if we do have 100,000 people come to town that puts us at 205,000 for three or four days, I have been out and about and I don't see any huge influx of people like those kinds of numbers would suggest.
At the bottom of the article written by Times staff reporter Ron Leonardi, he writes, "About 5000 motorcycles rode into Thursday's bringin' in the Roar bike parade from Presque Isle Downs & Casino to Perry Square, according to Tammy Polanski, spokeswoman for the Manufacturer & Business Association, which presents the rally".Do the math, if those 5000 bikers each had a guest with them that would be 10,000 people right? Lets add another 1000 people with the bands and the curiosity seekers and say 15,000 and that really is being generous, where are the other 85,000 people?
I am not knocking the event, it is an accomplishment to get 5,000 people organized and moving in order at the same time, but be honest, there are no where near 100,000 people attending or partaking in this event.
It would be a great follow up article next week when the event is over and the dust settles to see how much money was truly generated for the region and at the same time see how much the City of Erie spent on the event, keep in mind it is a private entity that hosted it, how much did the taxpayers shell out for police protection, overtime for streets department employees for set up and clean up? The only business i know who really benefited from the event is the motorcycle shop on West 12th. Street and the bars and beer distributors and that is great but what was the true cost to the taxpayer and would the mayor do this for any other organization?
The city is using the same first grader who estimated the Perry 200 parade attendance at 140,000.
Buddy Hinton

Westlake, OH

#3 Jul 20, 2013
Maybe the 100,000 was the number of donuts Mayor McCheese would attempt to eat.
Celebrity Watch

Erie, PA

#4 Jul 20, 2013
Fish Whisperer wrote:
I read in the Erie Times News today that the Roar on the Shore event is expected to draw 100,000 people to the Erie area, I'm not buyin' it.
Supposedly the Erie population is at approx. 105,000 people, if we do have 100,000 people come to town that puts us at 205,000 for three or four days, I have been out and about and I don't see any huge influx of people like those kinds of numbers would suggest.
At the bottom of the article written by Times staff reporter Ron Leonardi, he writes, "About 5000 motorcycles rode into Thursday's bringin' in the Roar bike parade from Presque Isle Downs & Casino to Perry Square, according to Tammy Polanski, spokeswoman for the Manufacturer & Business Association, which presents the rally".Do the math, if those 5000 bikers each had a guest with them that would be 10,000 people right? Lets add another 1000 people with the bands and the curiosity seekers and say 15,000 and that really is being generous, where are the other 85,000 people?
I am not knocking the event, it is an accomplishment to get 5,000 people organized and moving in order at the same time, but be honest, there are no where near 100,000 people attending or partaking in this event.
It would be a great follow up article next week when the event is over and the dust settles to see how much money was truly generated for the region and at the same time see how much the City of Erie spent on the event, keep in mind it is a private entity that hosted it, how much did the taxpayers shell out for police protection, overtime for streets department employees for set up and clean up? The only business i know who really benefited from the event is the motorcycle shop on West 12th. Street and the bars and beer distributors and that is great but what was the true cost to the taxpayer and would the mayor do this for any other organization?
Very good point. I never thought about it but I think you're right.
trevor

Saint Marys, OH

#5 Jul 21, 2013
Its a turd count....not a head count. Erie is turd centric city.in erir its not who comes here, but what they leave here.
so what

Canton, OH

#6 Jul 21, 2013
You know what douchebags, if you don't like the event. DON'T GO. Sit in mommy's basement and cry how bad this city is or bitch about how pathetic you life is.

Every hotel room for miles was booked for this event. Why don't you get off your lazy asses and do your own count to determine the number if it is really that important to you.

Geez, you idiot will find just about anything to cry and whine over.
Billy Squire

Erie, PA

#7 Jul 21, 2013
Just be honest, there were probably only 3-5000 people who attended the Roar. Still a good turnout.
Big fan

Erie, PA

#8 Jul 21, 2013
so what wrote:
You know what douchebags, if you don't like the event. DON'T GO. Sit in mommy's basement and cry how bad this city is or bitch about how pathetic you life is.
Every hotel room for miles was booked for this event. Why don't you get off your lazy asses and do your own count to determine the number if it is really that important to you.
Geez, you idiot will find just about anything to cry and whine over.
I think the point he was making was the inflation of numbers, just like they did with the parade and the peninsula. If you enjoy the trash that comes to Erie to mingle with the trash that is here go for it. You would have fit right in last night with all the drunks.
So what

Canton, OH

#9 Jul 21, 2013
Big fan wrote:
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I think the point he was making was the inflation of numbers, just like they did with the parade and the peninsula. If you enjoy the trash that comes to Erie to mingle with the trash that is here go for it. You would have fit right in last night with all the drunks.
Did you do a count yourself of just like to cry about someone else's figures? Why is the exact number so important to you?
Flint Westwood

Erie, PA

#10 Jul 21, 2013
so what wrote:
You know what douchebags, if you don't like the event. DON'T GO. Sit in mommy's basement and cry how bad this city is or bitch about how pathetic you life is.
Every hotel room for miles was booked for this event. Why don't you get off your lazy asses and do your own count to determine the number if it is really that important to you.
Geez, you idiot will find just about anything to cry and whine over.
Every hotel room is booked? Maybe, but for my response I`ll say OK!
There are about 4000 hotel rooms , using a preposterous figure of 10 occupants to a room "Probably illegal as hell" & everybody in the hotels is here for Roar On the Shore....that is 40,000? Now are we supposed to believe the transient riders & area residents will total another 60,000?.....If you believe that I got a bridge to sell you.
Do I really care about the "Roar On The Shore" attendance total ...No! But in planning for any future events & to accurately determine success,failure or real interest .... The Truth is mandatory not some made up BS, but we are in Erie Pennsylvania & the people here have been eating it by the plate full for 50 years.
Greg

Erie, PA

#11 Jul 21, 2013
Not every hotel was booked. Least not the 3 where I was at the mall down from Dicks Sporting Goods. Maybe the bars & beer distributors benefited some but Walmart was the big winner. You'd think there were events at them instead.
Wormwood

Erie, PA

#12 Jul 21, 2013
so what wrote:
You know what douchebags, if you don't like the event. DON'T GO. Sit in mommy's basement and cry how bad this city is or bitch about how pathetic you life is.
Every hotel room for miles was booked for this event. Why don't you get off your lazy asses and do your own count to determine the number if it is really that important to you.
Geez, you idiot will find just about anything to cry and whine over.
The only Douchebag is YOU.
panini

Erie, PA

#13 Jul 21, 2013
so what wrote:
You know what douchebags, if you don't like the event. DON'T GO. Sit in mommy's basement and cry how bad this city is or bitch about how pathetic you life is.
Every hotel room for miles was booked for this event. Why don't you get off your lazy asses and do your own count to determine the number if it is really that important to you.
Geez, you idiot will find just about anything to cry and whine over.
dont worry we didnt go but you cant get away from it as the news shoves it down your throat for the past few months. only d bags i saw were bikers, you know alot about moms basements dont you hows your moms?
who does hotel rooms being booked benefit? does it benefit the already rich or the middle class? do local restaurants see anymore business from these events that are not associated with biker crap? nope. is it to much truth for you to handle that the numbers for this event and every erie event are overestimated ten fold to make it seem better because the paper and our local political leaders want us to think they are doing this great job? thats the truth just like bikers are trash and your fat and on welfare.
Big fan

Erie, PA

#14 Jul 21, 2013
So what wrote:
<quoted text>
Did you do a count yourself of just like to cry about someone else's figures? Why is the exact number so important to you?
I hate liars, of which you seem to fit the mold, moron.
Celebrity Watch

Erie, PA

#15 Jul 22, 2013
so what wrote:
You know what douchebags, if you don't like the event. DON'T GO. Sit in mommy's basement and cry how bad this city is or bitch about how pathetic you life is.
Every hotel room for miles was booked for this event. Why don't you get off your lazy asses and do your own count to determine the number if it is really that important to you.
Geez, you idiot will find just about anything to cry and whine over.
Every time somebody asks a legitimate question about the Roar on the Shore event, you (and others like you) start calling that person an idiot, a douchebag, or some other derogatory name. Why so defensive? It's unfortunate that many people have a negative connotation when it comes to bikers, but "rants" like yours only strengthens that perception.
Let's try to have an intelligent conversation shall we?

By the way, you and all your monkey faced biker buddies are toothless dirt bags.
Master Card

Erie, PA

#16 Jul 22, 2013
I'd like a study to see how badly the area's average IQ dropped during the Roar on the Shore.
I'm guessing that the average IQ for the 100,000 plus population in Erie is normally about 110.
If you add another 100,000 bikers, the average drops to 50.
So what

Canton, OH

#17 Jul 22, 2013
Big fan wrote:
<quoted text>
I hate liars, of which you seem to fit the mold, moron.
Really dipshyt? How the hell did I lie when I didn't even give any figures? Go ask your mommy what a lie is?

Looks like I hit the jackpot in bringing out the douchebag contingent.

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