Fat neckbeard Justin Dillon to get fined

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Act 64

Springboro, PA

#1 Jun 22, 2013
The state's Commonwealth Court on Friday rejected an Erie gun-rights activist's appeal seeking a preliminary injunction related to a gun rally planned for today at the gazebo in Perry Square.

The Harrisburg-based appellate court denied Justin Dillon's "request for injunctive relief" during a 10-minute hearing conducted via telephone.

Dillon, 26, wanted Commonwealth Court judges to overturn a Thursday ruling by Erie County's president judge, Ernest J. DiSantis Jr., who refused to grant a preliminary injunction stopping the city from enforcing a city ordinance that bans firearms in its parks.

Today's rally in Perry Square is scheduled to start at 1 p.m. Dillon hosted similar rallies in Perry Square in July, January and February.

Dillon said late Friday that he still plans to carry a firearm at the rally.

"I have a constitutional right (to carry) and that shouldn't stop when I enter a city park," he said.

DiSantis' ruling means that anyone who brings a firearm to today's rally faces a fine of $100 to $300 and a maximum prison term of 90 days for failure to pay.

http://www.goerie.com/article/20130622/NEWS02...
Dont Flaunt It

United States

#2 Jun 22, 2013
"Dit's all 'bout edukation, da'ja no"
~ Dillon McDouche
Honest Observer

Erie, PA

#3 Jun 22, 2013
This will end up at the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania ......I do not understand what is wrong with Erie Authorities as what they did was in clear violation of State Law . It is called pre-emption which is specifically denied to municipalities, the very same thing was attempted by Philadelphia & was overturned by the State Supreme Court.
The Uniform Fire Arms Act specifically forbids any municipality from enacting firearms laws which are in violation of the Fire Arms Act.Many cities in Pennsylvania had to modify or reverse existing laws which were in violation of this act.
I do not know why Erie thinks they do not have to obey State Law....it must be something in the water they drink but THE ONLY GOVERNING BODY WHICH HAS THE ABILITY TO MODIFY THIS STATE LAW IS THE STATE LEGISLATURE.
Act 64

Meadville, PA

#4 Jun 22, 2013
Honest Observer wrote:
This will end up at the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania
Not today it won't. Fat Boy will have to leave his dick extension at home or deal with a fine, at minimum -- but with his criminal background and the fact that a Commonwealth Court just said 'no', he might be looking at jail time for contempt.

Then again, he might like being locked up with other men. Again.
Fredrick

Erie, PA

#5 Jun 22, 2013
He didn't get fined. I like his white tie.
Big Brotha Be Watchin Yo

United States

#6 Jun 22, 2013
Act 64 wrote:
<quoted text>Not today it won't. Fat Boy will have to leave his dick extension at home or deal with a fine, at minimum -- but with his criminal background and the fact that a Commonwealth Court just said 'no', he might be looking at jail time for contempt.

Then again, he might like being locked up with other men. Again.
What's it feel like to be wrong, stupid and a coward. Dillon uses his real name. You're just a little coward.
notall libs are idiots

Oil City, PA

#7 Jun 22, 2013
But no tickets were written. I guess the EPD is smarter than I thought.
Act 64

Townville, PA

#8 Jun 23, 2013
Big Brotha Be Watchin Yo wrote:
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What's it feel like to be wrong, stupid and a coward. Dillon uses his real name. You're just a little coward.
I thought the EPD might actually enforce the laws we pay them to enforce. Silly me.

BTW, how's that proxy working out for you, brave hero?
Honest Observer

Erie, PA

#9 Jun 23, 2013
Act 64 wrote:
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I thought the EPD might actually enforce the laws we pay them to enforce. Silly me.
BTW, how's that proxy working out for you, brave hero?
Maybe someone at City Hall with common sense realized to enforce the silly attempt by local yokels to deny people their Constitutional right as defined by the State Universal Fire Arms Act was forbidden & backed off.
By the way the EPD is expected to obey the law of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania in the performance of their duties nbot some made up crap which violates State Law & Constitutional individual rights.
Act 64

Townville, PA

#10 Jun 23, 2013
Honest Observer wrote:
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Maybe someone at City Hall with common sense realized to enforce the silly attempt by local yokels to deny people their Constitutional right as defined by the State Universal Fire Arms Act was forbidden & backed off.
By the way the EPD is expected to obey the law of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania in the performance of their duties nbot some made up crap which violates State Law & Constitutional individual rights.
The "silly attempt by local yokels" was the city solicitor's ruling based on an ordinance against having firearms in public parks, which has been on the books for years. Commonwealth judges denied Dillon's appeal on Friday, and they carried anyway.

Either Sinnott or Steve Franklin gave the order to stand down, which is in opposition to the solicitor's, Judge Desantis's, and the Commonwealth Court's rulings. So much for law enforcement.
Honest Observer

Erie, PA

#12 Jun 23, 2013
Act 64 wrote:
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The "silly attempt by local yokels" was the city solicitor's ruling based on an ordinance against having firearms in public parks, which has been on the books for years. Commonwealth judges denied Dillon's appeal on Friday, and they carried anyway.
Either Sinnott or Steve Franklin gave the order to stand down, which is in opposition to the solicitor's, Judge Desantis's, and the Commonwealth Court's rulings. So much for law enforcement.
Does not matter how long a law is on the books...if it violates state law it is invalid & cannot be enforced.Com mon sense ruled this time which for Erie is refreshing!
Lee Gull

Erie, PA

#13 Jun 23, 2013
The police don't ticket every violation they see, such as jaywalking, small excesses of speed limit, littering, loitering and other minor matters. They apparently didn't think it was necessary to ticket the rally participants. The preliminary injunction was denied because it was not clear enough that the ordinance violates the state preemption, which is a high burden of proof. I don't think the case isn't over, but the City's ordinance has been validated at least for now.
Honest Observer

Erie, PA

#14 Jun 23, 2013
Lee Gull wrote:
The police don't ticket every violation they see, such as jaywalking, small excesses of speed limit, littering, loitering and other minor matters. They apparently didn't think it was necessary to ticket the rally participants. The preliminary injunction was denied because it was not clear enough that the ordinance violates the state preemption, which is a high burden of proof. I don't think the case isn't over, but the City's ordinance has been validated at least for now.
Actually the city ordinance has not been validated as it was invalidated when the Universal Fire Arms Act was enacted......Until such time the State Legislature changes the law any local ordinance pre-empting state law is unconstitutional.
Your mindset in this issue is typical of many who think law can be twisted to conform to ones belief rather then to accept what the law proscribes.
Lee Gull

Erie, PA

#15 Jun 23, 2013
Honest Observer wrote:
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Actually the city ordinance has not been validated as it was invalidated when the Universal Fire Arms Act was enacted......Until such time the State Legislature changes the law any local ordinance pre-empting state law is unconstitutional.
Your mindset in this issue is typical of many who think law can be twisted to conform to ones belief rather then to accept what the law proscribes.
Your mindset is your opinion. That's why they have judges and appellate courts to determine whether a local law is preempted or otherwise invalid. I don't always agree with those decisions, but declaring your view as inarguable on a discussion forum doesn't change anything
Honest Observer

Erie, PA

#16 Jun 23, 2013
Lee Gull wrote:
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Your mindset is your opinion. That's why they have judges and appellate courts to determine whether a local law is preempted or otherwise invalid. I don't always agree with those decisions, but declaring your view as inarguable on a discussion forum doesn't change anything
If you had read some of my previous postings .....you would have read the courts have already ruled on this issue of pre-emption when a 5 judge panel ruled against Philadelphia citing the Universal Fire Arms Act back in 2008. It is a moot point as it is well established local municipalities cannot make laws in conflict with any State law which has established legality or illegality.
It is also true Judges & Appellate Courts are bound by the limits established by State Law when rendering a decision pertaining to a given local law in conflict with what the State Law proscribes.
That is why we have a Superior Court & a State Supreme Court to set aside ignorant decisions rendered by politically motivated or ignorant jurists & make the prevailing law whole once again..
Lee Gull

Erie, PA

#17 Jun 23, 2013
The Commonwealth Court rejected the appeal of the injunction. You may not be aware that there is a separate appellate court for issues involving municipal and state civil rulings, so the Superior Court did not have jurisdiction. The Supreme Court takes appeals from both Superior and Commonwealth Court, but only if they choose to accept the appeal. The courts are quite aware of the other cases they have ruled upon, even though they may not have read your posts.

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