Erie Economic Development Results

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anonymous

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Jul 23, 2013
 
There are approximately 5 economic development groups in Erie.

1. Over the last 5 years how many companies have relocated to Erie due directly to their efforts?

2. With grant funding, how many jobs have been created within the last 5 years due directly to their efforts?

Does anyone have the numbers?

Erie Watcher

Erie, PA

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Jul 23, 2013
 
The first one is definitely zero. The second one is likely zero.

If I'm wrong, prove me otherwise.
Arlen

Erie, PA

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Jul 23, 2013
 

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Kim Green gets paid $100,000 per year.

Thanks Joe Sinnott. Is you mommy happy that you gave her best friend's daughter a job she did not deserve?
notall libs are idiots

Oil City, PA

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Jul 23, 2013
 
anonymous wrote:
There are approximately 5 economic development groups in Erie.
1. Over the last 5 years how many companies have relocated to Erie due directly to their efforts?
2. With grant funding, how many jobs have been created within the last 5 years due directly to their efforts?
Does anyone have the numbers?
5 years? How about 30 years. Dems rule = Coincidence?
ItsALLstupid

Beaverton, OR

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#8
Jul 23, 2013
 
is it just for the city of erie or erie county?
millcreek got lower peach all gussied up.
what are the five groups?
the gop

Erie, PA

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Jul 24, 2013
 

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notall libs are idiots wrote:
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5 years? How about 30 years. Dems rule = Coincidence?
We nominate candidates like don tucci. It's comforting that our followers blame everybody but us for our ineptness.
anonymous

Spring, TX

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Jul 24, 2013
 
Is anyone holding the Erie Economic Development elected officials accountable for their actions?

Erie taxpayers pay their salaries.

Is anyone interested in publicly listing all Erie Economic Development employees salaries and perks and their REAL results over the last 5 years?

It's time to expose what they have done to fix this city's financil problems. Have they been acting in Erie's best interest?
Orly

Mansfield, OH

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Jul 24, 2013
 
I say we hang em!! And that David Crosby to.
anonymous

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Jul 24, 2013
 

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Is it time for a change?

Erie Economic Development Board:

James E. Martin, Chair
Region President
Northwest Savings Bank

Dr. Donald L. Birx, Ph.D.
Chancellor
Penn State Erie, The Behrend College

John C. Bloomstine
President
Insurance Management Company

Carl M. Carlotti, Esq.
Vice President
National Fuel Gas Dist. Corp.

Terrence W. Cavanaugh
President and CEO
Erie Insurance Group

Rosanne Cheeseman
President, Publisher
Times Publishing Company

Gary L. Clark
Owner
Stonebank Management LLC

John Dill
Senior Vice President
Citizens Bank

Mary Eckert
President
Millcreek Community Hospital

Scott Eighmy
Chief Executive Officer
American Turned Products

Jeffrey Evans, CFP
President
Young Erie Professionals

Jim Fiorenzo
President, CEO
Hamot Medical Center

Barbara Haggerty
Treasurer
Plymouth Tavern

Thomas C. Hoffman II, Esq.
Partner
Knox McLaughlin Gornall & Sennett

Tim Hunter
President/CEO
McInnes Rolled Rings

Thomas Kennedy
President
Professional Development Associates

Charles G. Knight
Managing Principal
Schaffner, Knight, Minnaugh & Company PC

John Leemhuis, Jr.
Shareholder
Quinn Law Firm

Marsha Marsh
Owner/Realtor
Marsha Marsh Real Estate Services
Bob Mazza
Owner
Mazza Vineyards

Marlene D. Mosco
President - NW PA Region
PNC Bank

Jack Munch
Vice President
Baldwin Brothers, Inc.

Neil Parham
Senior Community Affairs Specialist
Highmark Blue Cross Blue Shield

Jim Riley
Market Manager
Cumulus Media

James Rutkowski, Jr.
General Manager
Industrial Sales & Manufacturing Company

Matthew Schultz
President
John V. Schultz, Co.

Nick Scott, Jr.
Vice President/Owner
Scott Enterprises

Gretchen Seth
Vice President, International Sales
Logistics Plus

Ron Steele
Chief Executive Officer
Greater Erie Area Community Action Committee

Dr. Keith Taylor, Ph.D.
President
Gannon University

David M. Tullio
President
Custom Engineering Company

Russell S. Warner, Esq.
Managing Partner
MacDonald, Illig, Jones & Britton, LLP

Michael Weber
President
Smith Provision Company

Scott Whalen, Ph.D.
President & CEO
Saint Vincent Health System

Mary Beth Wilcher
CEO
Erie Federal Credit Union

Dr. Julie Wollman, Ph.D.
President
Edinboro University of Pennsylvania

Scott Wyman
Regional President
Penelec - A FirstEnergy Company
David Crosby

Erie, PA

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Jul 24, 2013
 
Orly wrote:
I say we hang em!! And that David Crosby to.
Melt on Sopper!
Nasty

Erie, PA

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Jul 25, 2013
 

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That's quite an impressive list of Erie's best known presidents, CEO's, business owners, attorneys, bankers, and vice presidents supplied by poster "anonymous". With people like this serving on the Erie Economic Development Board / Committee the decades long down slide of the Erie area should be resolved. At least it looks that way on paper.
But how many times in recent years have similar groups come together for the same purpose ? And how many times have these groups of well intentioned movers and shakers failed ? Answer: Every time.
So the big question that never gets asked and subsequently never discussed is why ? Why,after so many attempts do these sort of endeavors wither on the vine and slowly slough away ? I have my theory and I'll put them up for discussion.
First, despite all the accomplishments these board / committee members have achieved in their personal and professional lives, despite all their wealth of education and experience, these people have more important things to concentrate on. Their current careers and all the time and energies required to maintain that level of success is most likely their number one concern. The massive amount of work needed to put Erie on a better track would require more time than what a clock provides. It is highly improbable anyone on this list can afford to donate the time and enegy to do the job fully and properly. This is where everyone looks at the next person to carry the load, and no one does.
Next, when you talk with people who serve on boards, they tell you that many times they do so because they were asked and it's viewed as an honor to be considered. Often people will jump in for the exposure, for the resume' builder, for the prestige. Many board members have no intention of doing much work or even showing up. The main attraction is to be part of the in crowd within the business and political realm.
Finally, very often people who are appointed to and serve on boards are already members of other boards at various venues. Some are even members of numerous boards. With this being the case how can they possibly devote the time and energy toward Erie Economic Development ? It all looks impressive in print and in the news but it ends up being the same thing in the end. Not enough devoted people to gain the necessary momentum to make a noticable and lasting difference.
Topix posters will soon wonder what happened to this latest attempt to return Erie back to better times. Don't hold your breath on this one, and don't expect the next assembly of Erie's best to matter either.
theheatison

Erie, PA

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#16
Jul 25, 2013
 
Has anyone with the needed clout ever come up with a workable plan [ even if it got shot down?]

So far the only improvement I see is the blight that Erie Insurance has cleaned up. For my money, they can take over the whole east side.
hillbilly

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Jul 25, 2013
 
Mr Kind wrote:
<quoted text> The problem is where do you relocate the garbage/ trash/ parasite population that lives on the east side now. The only real solution would have to be the "Final Solution" but until you eradicate that population the east side will never improve and therefore the City will not be able to improve.
They'd be right at home in other parts of the county - east, west, and south.
theheatison

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Jul 25, 2013
 
hillbilly wrote:
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They'd be right at home in other parts of the county - east, west, and south.
As long as there are street corners and country fairs there.
theheatison

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Jul 25, 2013
 
Mr Kind wrote:
<quoted text> The problem is where do you relocate the garbage/ trash/ parasite population that lives on the east side now. The only real solution would have to be the "Final Solution" but until you eradicate that population the east side will never improve and therefore the City will not be able to improve.
To the far west side.

All the turn around plans you can conceive will not save this city from itself, unless you start at the bottom.
There isn't a politician in this town willing to do that.
That is why Erie is doomed.
CRANK

Erie, PA

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#21
Jul 26, 2013
 
There is a limit to what any appointed board can accomplish without the buy-in and cooperation of the elected officials in any jurisdiction. For example, an effort could be made to get a manufacturer to consider relocating here, but that doesn't mean that the hurdles to planning, site acquisition, environmental impact, zoning, permitting, inspections, occupancy, etc. can be overcome. The time delays and costs encountered in each step of the process amount to a huge disincentive. That coupled to an anti-business labor reputation and lack of access to venture capital doom a lot of potential that otherwise could be achieved.
Much of the task of 'economic development' appointments is viewed as simply taking the focus off of the elected officials. It becomes a matter of convenience rather than performance.
Another time consuming disincentive is the number of taxing bodies involved in making a decision. It is impossible to get a timely decision made. Look how long it took to get a decision made for Lord to reuse the Bush Industries facility. Now imagine if that was an out of town business looking to relocate, rather than a local business looking to move and expand. What are the odds we would have lost the opportunity less than half way through the process?
Hurdles to development need to be eliminated, and processes streamlined and reduced in cost. Anti-business attitudes need to change. Access to venture capital needs to improve.
To have something, you first have to want it.
Doom n Gloom

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Jul 26, 2013
 
Notice how most of these people represent business that wants to slash & eliminate jobs, buy products from "out of town" because they can get it cheaper there? Protect the fund hoarding stock holders, that'll stimulate the economy.

Here's a clue. Put more money in the hands of the consumers. That stimulates the economy & brings more back to you.

They have the wrong people on their board. It's time to look for people who have the time & knowledge on how to keep people here. Not drive them out.
amazed

Erie, PA

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#23
Jul 26, 2013
 
The reality of this entire scenario is that here in Erie we have to start to consider what is best for our entire area and stop asking the all to repeated question of "what's in it for me?"
all of these boards or committees that are created simply wind up as layers of costly goverment bureaucracy that really accomplish nothing.
It is actually quite simple...start holding our elected officials accountable don't vote for them by name recognition...we need new blood with new vision...what was the definition of insanity?
Nasty

Erie, PA

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Jul 26, 2013
 
amazed wrote:
It is actually quite simple...start holding our elected officials accountable don't vote for them by name recognition...we need new blood with new vision...what was the definition of insanity?
Holding elected officials accountable and trying " new blood " are nice talking points but without a complete turn around by the populace even the greatest political people you could conjure up won't make a shread of difference.
I realize this debate comes down to the chicken or the egg type of argument." If only the citizens were better off then all would be well ! " Unfortunately that statement alone doesn't solve the problem.
Consider the following scenerio...... What if every Erie citizen were given $ 100,000. Relax, I know that can't actually happen, but what if it did ? They'd be dancing in the streets wouldn't they ? Why, our problems would be solved ! Hardly.

How many people in this area would make zero behavioral changes to maximize their advantage ? Answer: Most. Oh, they'd pay off debts, they'd treat themselves to things they never thought they could afford. Life would be great. But that would be their total definition of improving their quality of life. Buying stuff they always wanted.
How many people in this area would be wise enough to take a sizable portion of this big windfall and place the money into savings or toward educational opportunities ? Answer: not many.

I believe that people here are generationally stuck in the foolish belief of expecting to be given a fish everyday while very few are motivated to make the changes to learn how to fish. It's far easier to hate the achievers, to blame everyone and everthing for one's troubles. It's not in Erie's collective fiber to break the molds of past and failed patterns. At least not for most long entrenched Erie folk who seem to believe that although the world may change Erie and themselves will be forever insulated from needing to do so.

It's this mindset that so powerfully prevails and has contributed mightily to Erie's decades long woes. Other factors have indeed played their part but getting Erie to look ahead, be proactive, and adjust to the changing climates that now define the real world is something not even the greatest assembly of leaders can overcome. It starts at the very root and Erie's roots have died.
David Crosby

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Jul 26, 2013
 
amazed wrote:
The reality of this entire scenario is that here in Erie we have to start to consider what is best for our entire area and stop asking the all to repeated question of "what's in it for me?"
all of these boards or committees that are created simply wind up as layers of costly goverment bureaucracy that really accomplish nothing.
It is actually quite simple...start holding our elected officials accountable don't vote for them by name recognition...we need new blood with new vision...what was the definition of insanity?
Does that definition mean I'm crazy??????????666

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