Joyce's exes take stand

Joyce's exes take stand

There are 40 comments on the GoErie.com story from Oct 24, 2008, titled Joyce's exes take stand. In it, GoErie.com reports that:

State Superior Court Judge Michael T. Joyce met his live-in girlfriend, Shelane Buehler, for lunch just hours after he was involved in the collision that he later claimed changed his life.

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lakerman1

Oil City, PA

#27 Oct 25, 2008
The most interesting stuff came out with the testimony of the ex wife of Joyce. She established that he is a worldclass hypochondriac.(word origin -hypo+uner, chondria+ ribcage.) an unknown pain in the chest.
The man really believed that he was having heart attacks. And other problems. So whatever his statements were to the insurance companies were those of a hypochondriac. Her testimony strengthens Joyce's case, and will absolutely be used by Phil Friedman in his closing argument.
Un-Biased

Erie, PA

#28 Oct 25, 2008
So, If A person has symptoms of a illness and decides to get evaluated by a Medical Professional they are considered a Hypochondriac...Well I guess All these Doctors are wrong when they say if you have any pains in your chest to seek immediate medical attention...After all who are they to tell us that...They should just ask the panel of experts in this forum..They know the Court System AND the Medical profession......
lakerman1

Oil City, PA

#29 Oct 25, 2008
What level of reading comprehension do you possess, unbiased? Try reading what I said. The criminal charges against joyce are based on his overstatements about his injuries suffered in the car accident, and the degree to which he was limited in his activities. Joyce, according to his ex-wife, is a hypochondriac. He magnifies his illnesses, even to the point of asking for a lifeflight helicopter out of Mexico, believing he was having a heart attack.
That works in his favor in facing the charges. The jury will be told by joyce's attorney that the testimony of the ex is of importance in deciding the case - that judge joyce has an active imagination when it comes to his own health concerns.
The word hypochondria exists, unbiased, because physicians see it in their practices, and have seen it for centuries.
Is that so hard to understand? The prosecution put a witness on the stand who actually strengthens Joyce's case. That is why attorneys are taught to consider the pluses and minuses of a particular witness's testimony.
Help me out here, Prudence. Surely you agree with me. And ignore unbiased. Could we arrange to ban unbiased from ever sitting on a jury? And prudence, what happened to spousal privilege here??
yogi

Edinboro, PA

#34 Oct 25, 2008
I'm waiting for Joyce or his attorney to use their trump card of him being a decorated Vietnam Veteran (and boy, did he brag about his endeavors to the extent of being untrue and sickening). It will be called post-traumatic stress disorder. I wonder if he ever tried to get military disability for PTSD.
yogi

Edinboro, PA

#35 Oct 25, 2008
...when the three stooges hung together (Joyce, Dennis Tobin and Gary "cross dresser" Nietupski) they thought they were the "cat's meow" Boy, how the tide has turned...and deservedly so.
Baconite

Erie, PA

#37 Oct 25, 2008
yogi wrote:
...when the three stooges hung together (Joyce, Dennis Tobin and Gary "cross dresser" Nietupski) they thought they were the "cat's meow" Boy, how the tide has turned...and deservedly so.
Gary Nietupski is a cross dresser? Huh?
Oscar

Erie, PA

#38 Oct 25, 2008
Baconite wrote:
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Gary Nietupski is a cross dresser? Huh?
This must come as a shock to his wife, Lisa Zompa Nietupski?
Are You Nuts

Pittsburgh, PA

#39 Oct 25, 2008
FDR, how could you possibly compare Tom Ridge to Mike Joyce? Not even close. Regroup and try again. Think before you post.
concerned

Cape Coral, FL

#40 Oct 29, 2008
Suddenly Susan wrote:
How many of you really know Shellie? she is a "C"ee "U" "N"ext "T"eusday in every way shape and form. I hope she believes in karma, because it's coming.
You go I agree with you. Erie Insurance should have some responsibility in this thing. Look at the man who okayed the settlement. What can happen to him
Natalie

Stow, OH

#41 Oct 30, 2008
Who WAS the man who approved the Erie Insurance settlement?

Since: Oct 08

Titusville, PA

#42 Oct 30, 2008
From what I understand ( reliable sources) the decision was made near the top. The claims adjuster from EIE had questioned the validity of the claim and ran it by the higher ups. Politics is the main reason for such a stupid blunder by EIE. They buckled under the future legal ramifications if there was litigation that went to Big Mikes courtroom. This brings another question, if true should Big Mike have excused himself from hearing any appeal involving EIE?. Case in point, potential jurors would have been asked if they ever had a claim with EIE. They would have been disqualified. EIE knew the claim was bogus but paid it because of who it was. You can bet the average guy would have been laughed out of the claims office. Further, it would have been tossed out of Big Mikes court if it was anyone else.
concerned

Cape Coral, FL

#43 Oct 30, 2008
Natalie wrote:
Who WAS the man who approved the Erie Insurance settlement?
not really sure have heard a few names but no concrete knowledge of it but I believe it was someone higher up in the company. Anyone else know?
concerned

Cape Coral, FL

#44 Oct 30, 2008
Hank1957 wrote:
From what I understand ( reliable sources) the decision was made near the top. The claims adjuster from EIE had questioned the validity of the claim and ran it by the higher ups. Politics is the main reason for such a stupid blunder by EIE. They buckled under the future legal ramifications if there was litigation that went to Big Mikes courtroom. This brings another question, if true should Big Mike have excused himself from hearing any appeal involving EIE?. Case in point, potential jurors would have been asked if they ever had a claim with EIE. They would have been disqualified. EIE knew the claim was bogus but paid it because of who it was. You can bet the average guy would have been laughed out of the claims office. Further, it would have been tossed out of Big Mikes court if it was anyone else.
From what I heard he had recused himself from hearing EIE cases in the past so I am not sure which side is true. EIE should have further checked into the claim and made him get an IME like they would anyother person. EIE has been known in the industry as hard-nosed against claims so that is what surprised me the most. Who pulled the strings for him???
Wish I was there

Erie, PA

#45 Oct 31, 2008
yogi wrote:
...when the three stooges hung together (Joyce, Dennis Tobin and Gary "cross dresser" Nietupski) they thought they were the "cat's meow" Boy, how the tide has turned...and deservedly so.
G.N. the swinger is a cross-dresser?
Wish I was there

Erie, PA

#46 Oct 31, 2008
yogi wrote:
...when the three stooges hung together (Joyce, Dennis Tobin and Gary "cross dresser" Nietupski) they thought they were the "cat's meow" Boy, how the tide has turned...and deservedly so.
What about the whole group...Strong, Joyce, Tobin, Lesko, Marcoline, Nietupski. MEOW or is it YAWN?
Realist

Pittsburgh, PA

#47 Oct 31, 2008
concerned wrote:
<quoted text>not really sure have heard a few names but no concrete knowledge of it but I believe it was someone higher up in the company. Anyone else know?
I believe one article said the decision came from none other than Jan Van Gorder himself, then a Sr. Executive VP, Secretary and General Counsel.
concerned

Cape Coral, FL

#48 Nov 2, 2008
That is what I had heard also, anything happening to him??
lakerman1

Oil City, PA

#49 Nov 2, 2008
When I finished my undergrad degree, I worked in insurance. Back in the olden days, there were multiple levels of supervision in the claims department, and such a large claim payment would go up the chain of command for approval.
Realist

Pittsburgh, PA

#50 Nov 3, 2008
concerned wrote:
That is what I had heard also, anything happening to him??
He left Erie Insurance back in 2006, I believe.
hap

West Chester, OH

#51 Nov 4, 2008
Nice, a judge in the pockets of the insurance companies. Me thinks the system need overhauled.

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