I was raised a catholic and still am a catholic but if any church leader really knew my true beliefs they would distance themselves from me I'm sure. So here are my beliefs....If a church authority says do x or you're out, that's fair. As the story goes we all have free will. But what isn't fair in any sense IMO is to listen to ignoramouses who don't even know their own religion, let alone the facts of other religions or irreligion, tell me that I must do as they say or some God will deny me salvation.
In the situation of being excluded from a church you know what your choices are and as it's in the physical world so you can understand what it means. But when ignorant people are supposedly relaying the message of God you never know what choice if any you are debating.
Many religionists don't know what they're even talking about, not to mention that what they claim is indistinguishable from imagination.
No disrespect intended. I'm just pointing out that when church members point to the evil of nonbelief or homosexuality they have no idea what that experience entails. And make no mistake those are specific experiences not just something people do to disrespect some type of God that exists only in the believers imagination, not the deciders.
Curious if you understand all that or have any comment. You seem fair minded in that you seem to simply be trying to explain from your view of the church's position. I can respect that.
We have no free will. If I am to believe that God the Almighty knows and has always known all things about everything then whatever I do or whatever anyone does has always been known before the earth had even cooled. If I am told that God does not already know all things than have I elevated God to be greater than He actually is ? Can it be possible that I, a mere mortal character have given more credit to God than deserved ?!
Everyone will say "of course not" ! So the conclusion is He indeed does know, and has always known all things about everything. So then people ask, "Well if you believe you have no free will then why don't you just go out and rob banks, party all night, etc." ? Here's my belief on that...... I view God as the Master Author of a grand novel. Much like the characters in a human written novel following the paths assigned to them by that author, I believe we as humans follow our designed roles in God's grand novel. We don't have the choices we like to think we do.
I'll put it another way..... Can we fool God ? I mean can it be possible that God thinks we're going left but no, we fake Him out and instead go right ? If I can surprise God, if I can fake Him out then is He really as great as we've made Him to be. Can a mere human on earth actually build God up to something greater than He really is ? Because if we can, then He isn't the God I thought He was, especially if I can fool Him.
Of course I don't believe that I can pull a fast one on the Almighty. That's why I subscribe to the belief that we are destined to follow the role God has set for us, much like any protagonist and antagonist in a worldly authors written story.
So that leads to my conclusion that everyone goes to heaven. Yes everyone, because God would not punish His creation for following their assigned roles, good or bad, that He Himself doled out. " But why would God allow such evil in this world" ? That I believe is one of the great mysteries that our human minds are not privy to at this time. Just as there are the good and bad characters in a human novel so too does God have His characters and their purpose for His greatest novel. That answer I believe is revealed to us when we reach the pearly gates.
Blasphemy ?? Just a human word. God has always known what I would write here. Otherwise He wouldn't be God. That's how high up I hold His Majesty.