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Why do poor/lower middle class people vote republican?

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Sick and Tired

United States

#1 Jul 16, 2008
Is it single issue hot buttons?
Is it they fall for the short term trick to curry their favor?(tax cuts and rebates)
Do they dislike minorities?

Are they FALLING FOR THE CRIME FAIRYTAIL?
Help me out here.
EAG

Warren, OH

#2 Jul 16, 2008
They vote Republican because they don't want to be poor.

Fact: Over 95 percent of prison inmates are Democrats.
Fact: Over 95 percent of sexual deviants (gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender, and transsexual 'people' are Democrats.
Fact: High school dropouts tend to be Democrats.

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Since: Jul 08

Canton, OH

#3 Jul 16, 2008
Maybe they realize that the wealthier folks provide the jobs these folks need and if you tax them to death they might not be able to provide those jobs.
Or maybe they realize that those babies in the womb didn't do anything to deserve being burned to death or torn apart in an abortion.
Or maybe they do believe as the Republicans do that capital punishment should be used on those who have beyond a doubt committed murder.
Or maybe they just feel we are being taxed enough and would kind of like to decide for themselves how to spend their hard earned wages.
Or maybe they would like to see America become energy self sufficient unlike the Democratic candidate for president.
Or maybe they just have good old common sense!

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Since: Jul 08

Louisville, OH

#4 Jul 26, 2008
I would think it is because they can only deal with issues that only effect them at the moment and nothing else (the blinder effect).
They fall for the one liners and believe what they are told without further investigation.
Actually, your are partially correct. Lower income people tend to vote democratic because the go for the change and hope line. Middle class (usually high school education and sometimes college) will go for the republican line because it's the "us" against "them" blue collar thing. Then, interestingly two things happen. Either higher income / higher class stay with republican because they can hold onto their monies easier because republicans are for big business or higher educated people tend to go democratic because they see a bigger picture and it's not "all about me" mentality.
At least the way it was at the time when I took the class. Of course there are variables and there are always cross-overs that don't fit the mold.
Then again, who knows why people do what they do?
justpassingby

United States

#5 Sep 15, 2008
What else is there to say about poor and lower middle class people who vote republican and against their own best interest, but that they are simply ingnorant and feeble minded? The rich (republicans) want nothing but to strip people of their rights and strength and make everyone their slaves. Look at the price of gas and the record breaking profits of oil companies. I pray for America. When citizens support and identify with an oppressive government, it is a sign of a conquered mind, body, and soul or perhaps cowardness to fight for their rights and instead live subserviently. I am middle-class earning a six figure salary and, under the neo-con Bush administration I have lost many of my employee rights and the only reason my yearly salary increases (cost of living) were not abolished was because the democrats stopped the republicans in their tracks when they took over the house in Bush's 2nd term. Now, would I be a complete idiot, shoot myself in the foot, and vote republican on 2008 to stagnate my salary because I don't want Tom and Dick getting married? NO WAY! God gave me a brain to know what is best for me. PLEASE WAKE UP ALL YOU K-MART AND TARGET SHOPPERS CLIPPING COUPONS! YOU HAVE NO BUSINESS VOTING FOR THE REPUBLICANS -THE PARTY OF THE WEALTHY WHO SEEK MORE POWER AND WEALTH THROUGH YOUR DEMISE!

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Louisville, OH

#6 Sep 16, 2008
EAG wrote:
They vote Republican because they don't want to be poor.
Fact: Over 95 percent of prison inmates are Democrats.
Fact: Over 95 percent of sexual deviants (gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender, and transsexual 'people' are Democrats.
Fact: High school dropouts tend to be Democrats.
Until you show me the proof on that, you are an idiot.
no fool any more

Daytona Beach, FL

#7 Sep 17, 2008
Those who say the rich provide jobs -
That used to be true - now they will provide jobs in India an China.
Our real wages have fallen since Bush took office.
Why prop them up when they wan to push us down ?
The Repubs are in Bed with Gordon Gecko's
Ummm

Chapel Hill, NC

#8 Oct 12, 2008
Why would I believe someone who refers to gay people as "deviants"?
They don't want to be poor? I'm sorry, we have Republicans in office right now...does the economy look good to you?!
Republicans are, first and foremost, for the wealthy. The poor fall in line a lot of the time b/c the Republicans play on people's fears. They want their vote so they tell them what they want to hear re: abortion, minorities, etc.
a berean> Don't you find that the least bit hypocritical? It's ok to kill one creature but not another? You assume a fetus is "innocent", but according to your own religion, only god can know the inner workings of person's soul. It would actually behoove the poor to have LESS children...thus removing them from the cycle of poverty. Yet the fundamentalists not only want to take away abortion, but sex education, as well. Kind of a lose-lose for the poor, but no-one cares as long as the fetuses are safe!
blatantidiocy

Green Bay, WI

#9 Oct 14, 2008
Ummm wrote:
Why would I believe someone who refers to gay people as "deviants"?
They don't want to be poor? I'm sorry, we have Republicans in office right now...does the economy look good to you?!
Republicans are, first and foremost, for the wealthy. The poor fall in line a lot of the time b/c the Republicans play on people's fears. They want their vote so they tell them what they want to hear re: abortion, minorities, etc.
a berean> Don't you find that the least bit hypocritical? It's ok to kill one creature but not another? You assume a fetus is "innocent", but according to your own religion, only god can know the inner workings of person's soul. It would actually behoove the poor to have LESS children...thus removing them from the cycle of poverty. Yet the fundamentalists not only want to take away abortion, but sex education, as well. Kind of a lose-lose for the poor, but no-one cares as long as the fetuses are safe!
YOU COULDN'T BE MORE TO THE POINT AND ACCURATE!!! Keep the masses stupid and unintelligent, and it just keeps working for the wealthy!!! If they're so stupid they can't see the ACTUAL, UNDERLYING reasons for a bad economy (and all that it entails, i.e. rampant poverty, foreclosures, inability to afford higher education) HAVE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH "MORAL" issues, then I believe they have no business voting in the first place. I have a dream: I think only people who have attended informational sessions or "CLASSES" that inform them of America's past, present, and general political information (just like you have to take a test at the DMV BEFORE YOU CAN DRIVE A CAR), you should HAVE TO BE INFORMED BEFORE YOU make a proper, INFORMED political decision!!!
Our economy sucks because wealthy companies ditched AMERICANS for $0.27/hr. laborers overseas. They gave their own country the big MIDDLE finger and now we're feeling the hurt. It's all about the money, until there's NO MONEY to milk out of anyone anymore.
blatantidiocy

Green Bay, WI

#10 Oct 14, 2008
Screw all you anti-abortion retards. It's OK to kill adults? As long as it's "innocent" and to the disadvantage of all parties involved, you are SO AGAINST IT? Fight WAR, fight CRIME, fight POVERTY, it would do you more good!!! If you were only so adamantly against "killing" in general, someone MIGHT NOT think you're such an idiot. Just a suggestion. Here's a few more suggestions you should take to heart: is it not pretty OBVIOUS that the fewer people there ARE, the better off we are? If there were only 7 people left on earth, wouldn't they be the MOST VALUABLE PEOPLE ever? Would they be killing each other left and right? I highly doubt it. Then again, if one was pro-choice and the other anti-, the anti-abortionist might BOMB or maim the pro-choice person and feel utterly justified!!!
Jup

Palmyra, PA

#12 Oct 14, 2008
justpassingby: It is kinda funny that you refer to yourself as middle class when you just said you earn six figures... definitely Upper Middle class and congratulations. I went back to refresh myself on WIKIPEDIA just to confirm the income levels. Thank you for educating me.

Anyway, I vote Republican because I cannot find a good Libertarian to vote for or should I say non-denominational...(LOL). I prefer no party but will deal with the GOP and their less government involvement anyday (at least that is what they say...)

Cant vote Democratic... they are too into social justice and trying to make people equal... Would rather stand on my own two feet thank you very much.

“Leave the gun; take the canoli”

Since: Oct 07

Erie, PA

#13 Oct 14, 2008
Sick and Tired wrote:
Is it single issue hot buttons?
Is it they fall for the short term trick to curry their favor?(tax cuts and rebates)
Do they dislike minorities?
Are they FALLING FOR THE CRIME FAIRYTAIL?
Help me out here.
Author Joe Bageant wrote a very insightful book about this very topic, about poor people voting Republican. It's called "Deerhunting With Jesus".

Bageant brings up a highly overlooked fact: most of the Democrats are very condescending and arrogant. People are not inclined to vote for a candidate whom they perceive as snobby, elitist, or condescending. And let's face it, liberals do have a tendency to presume that everyone who is poor is "uneducated" or "stupid". That rubs alot of people the wrong way.

Jacqueline S. Homan,
http://jacquelinehoman7.googlepages.com/nothi...
Author: "Nothing You Can Possess"
"Classism For Dimwits"
"Eyes of a Monster"

“Left of right, center of left.”

Since: Aug 08

Erie, PA

#14 Oct 16, 2008
Could you please show me the source of your statistics? I was a registered independent until the primary, now I am registered Democrat. I believe that Jesus Christ was the Son of God. I believe every word of the Bible. I graduated High School and I have been a working, tax paying professional for over 11 years, or since I graduated high school I believe in family. I believe is the second amendment. I am also voting for Obama. There are many others like me out there.
EAG wrote:
They vote Republican because they don't want to be poor.
Fact: Over 95 percent of prison inmates are Democrats.
Fact: Over 95 percent of sexual deviants (gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender, and transsexual 'people' are Democrats.
Fact: High school dropouts tend to be Democrats.

“Left of right, center of left.”

Since: Aug 08

Erie, PA

#15 Oct 16, 2008
Who are these 'elitists'? You're telling me that there are no elitists in the upper part Republican party? Do you think Rush would be willing to trade lives with you for one week? There are a lot of 'un-educated' democratic supporters, but there are knowledgeable and wise. My leanings are more towards the Democratic side, but I some of the best, hard working people I know lean more towards the Republican side. I think 90% of Americans are closer idealistically than they realize. There is a middle.
Jacqueline Homan wrote:
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Author Joe Bageant wrote a very insightful book about this very topic, about poor people voting Republican. It's called "Deerhunting With Jesus".
Bageant brings up a highly overlooked fact: most of the Democrats are very condescending and arrogant. People are not inclined to vote for a candidate whom they perceive as snobby, elitist, or condescending. And let's face it, liberals do have a tendency to presume that everyone who is poor is "uneducated" or "stupid". That rubs alot of people the wrong way.
Jacqueline S. Homan,
http://jacquelinehoman7.googlepages.com/nothi...
Author: "Nothing You Can Possess"
"Classism For Dimwits"
"Eyes of a Monster"

“Leave the gun; take the canoli”

Since: Oct 07

Erie, PA

#16 Oct 16, 2008
OStaige wrote:
Who are these 'elitists'? You're telling me that there are no elitists in the upper part Republican party? Do you think Rush would be willing to trade lives with you for one week? There are a lot of 'un-educated' democratic supporters, but there are knowledgeable and wise. My leanings are more towards the Democratic side, but I some of the best, hard working people I know lean more towards the Republican side. I think 90% of Americans are closer idealistically than they realize. There is a middle.
<quoted text>
Obama, Hillary Clinton, and author Barbara Ehrenreich - all have made condescending remarks about the poor regarding the poor not knowing what's best for them. And all three are liberals. Do not try to pin me down for exact quotes because I did not waste the cerebral effort in memorizing them verbatim or the newspaper source. I just got turned off and disgusted with it all and probably won't vote since neither party and neither candidate is, in my view, going to help America.

I forget exactly which newspaper it was in, but awhile back earlier on in the campaign, Obama made some arrogant remark about the "Walmart crowd". Hillary Clinton also looks down on the poor as if they're too dumb to make their own choices and assumes that the poor are all uneducated and don't know what's best for them.

I have even seen this type of attitude eminate from liberal/Democrat politically leaning posters on Topix; as soon as someone who disagrees with them in any way politically - even if it is only one thing where there is disagreeing views - the liberal/Democrat leaning poster will automatically call their opponent "uneducated"...or my favorite "religious nut and conspiracy theorists" (as if all conspiracy exposers are even religious in the first place!).

Now, I am not a McCain/Palin supporter either as I do not think they have a solid enough grasp, let alone respect for, the upholding of the US Constitution (which would entail repealing several executive orders that are currently a threat to all liberty and freedom loving law abiding Americans.

Jacqueline S. Homan,
http://jacquelinehoman7.googlepages.com/nothi...
Author: "Nothing You Can Possess"
"Classism For Dimwits"
"Eyes of a Monster"

“Left of right, center of left.”

Since: Aug 08

Erie, PA

#17 Oct 16, 2008
Not voting doesn't help this country either. If you don't vote you might as well vote for the person you like the least. You've named three 'elitist liberals' that you feel have made condescending remarks about conservatives. What makes them elitists? Do they make too much money? Are they too educated? Please explain. Do you think that Rush Limbaugh would trade places with you for one whole week? My guess is that he likes his 'elitist' lifestyle a little too much to ever do such a thing. How about Mrs. McCain? Do you think she could last a week in your shoes? So now tell me, what constitutes an 'elitist'? Be careful as to how you answer, because people shouldn't be ashamed of success and wealth, we don't want to sound like a socialist. You can't get all of your info from Rush and Hannity because it shows in every argument their fans try to make. Ditto heads unite!
Jacqueline Homan wrote:
<quoted text>
Obama, Hillary Clinton, and author Barbara Ehrenreich - all have made condescending remarks about the poor regarding the poor not knowing what's best for them. And all three are liberals. Do not try to pin me down for exact quotes because I did not waste the cerebral effort in memorizing them verbatim or the newspaper source. I just got turned off and disgusted with it all and probably won't vote since neither party and neither candidate is, in my view, going to help America.
I forget exactly which newspaper it was in, but awhile back earlier on in the campaign, Obama made some arrogant remark about the "Walmart crowd". Hillary Clinton also looks down on the poor as if they're too dumb to make their own choices and assumes that the poor are all uneducated and don't know what's best for them.
I have even seen this type of attitude eminate from liberal/Democrat politically leaning posters on Topix; as soon as someone who disagrees with them in any way politically - even if it is only one thing where there is disagreeing views - the liberal/Democrat leaning poster will automatically call their opponent "uneducated"...or my favorite "religious nut and conspiracy theorists" (as if all conspiracy exposers are even religious in the first place!).
Now, I am not a McCain/Palin supporter either as I do not think they have a solid enough grasp, let alone respect for, the upholding of the US Constitution (which would entail repealing several executive orders that are currently a threat to all liberty and freedom loving law abiding Americans.
Jacqueline S. Homan,
http://jacquelinehoman7.googlepages.com/nothi...
Author: "Nothing You Can Possess"
"Classism For Dimwits"
"Eyes of a Monster"

“Leave the gun; take the canoli”

Since: Oct 07

Erie, PA

#18 Oct 16, 2008
OStaige wrote:
Not voting doesn't help this country either. If you don't vote you might as well vote for the person you like the least. You've named three 'elitist liberals' that you feel have made condescending remarks about conservatives. What makes them elitists? Do they make too much money? Are they too educated? Please explain. Do you think that Rush Limbaugh would trade places with you for one whole week? My guess is that he likes his 'elitist' lifestyle a little too much to ever do such a thing. How about Mrs. McCain? Do you think she could last a week in your shoes? So now tell me, what constitutes an 'elitist'? Be careful as to how you answer, because people shouldn't be ashamed of success and wealth, we don't want to sound like a socialist. You can't get all of your info from Rush and Hannity because it shows in every argument their fans try to make. Ditto heads unite!
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1. I don't have TV - can't afford cable (unless I want to give up my Internet and organic food).

2. I do not depend on talking heads like Rush Limbaugh or Hannity & Colmes to do my thinking for me.

3. Voting for the lesser of two evils is analgous to voting on how you want to be executed - either way you're screwed.

4. Of course Cindy McCain and Sarah Palin would not want to walk a mile in my shoes - neither would Michelle Obama, Hillary Clinton, or Nancy Pelosi. When is the last time ANY of them ever had to do without because of age/gender/race/disability discrimination in a Serengeti job market and go home empty-handed without a chance for a job to one or more of their basic life-sustaining utilities being cut off for lack of income to afford the bills?

What you fail to realize is that for me, this is not about "right vs. left"; it's about right vs. wrong. And both sides of the Congressional aisle have done wrong. Who signed NAFTA into effect? Who wanted to give amnesty to illegals when poor and jobless Americans have been thrown under the bus and are routinely denied help - law abiding citizens who had contributed to the system before falling on hard times, who were not sending their paychecks out of the country instead of putting it back into local economies here? Who signed unconstitutional acts into effect? Both liberals and neocons that are members of America's rich and shameless - that's who.

Which candidate had a grasp of upholding the Constitution, of working towards a viable solution for this economic quagmire of a debt peonage economy? Ron Paul - that's who.

I take exception to your arrogant presumption that I am incapable of thinking on my own and forming my own opinions without the aid of "Big Media" - the same industry that has given more women and girls body image issues than Carter has pills. That kind of condescension and arrogance of putting down someone you don't know anything about is exactly the type of elitist attitudes I described in my previous post.

"Elitist" is talking down to people and insulting them; it's assuming that someone who is less economically successful than you and who disagrees with you is dumber or less educated than you. Newsflash! Not all poor people are stupid and less educated than you.

Jacqueline S. Homan,
http://jacquelinehoman7.googlepages.com/nothi...
Author: "Nothing You Can Possess"
"Classism For Dimwits"
"Eyes of a Monster"
mrkihn

Chambersburg, PA

#19 Oct 17, 2008
I guess I'm one of those poor/lower middle class
but I don't vote republican nor Democrat. I vote for the person not the party. Anybody who votes for the party is plain out S-t-u-p-i-d. It is a shame today most Republican and Democrat politicians are worthless to the American people and those who say you should for Democrats or Republican are even more worthless.
crbyd

United States

#20 Oct 17, 2008
SUV

Erie, PA

#21 Oct 17, 2008
mrkihn wrote:
I guess I'm one of those poor/lower middle class
but I don't vote republican nor Democrat. I vote for the person not the party. Anybody who votes for the party is plain out S-t-u-p-i-d. It is a shame today most Republican and Democrat politicians are worthless to the American people and those who say you should for Democrats or Republican are even more worthless.
Agree 100%. Both big parties seem to have morphed into one big corporation. They work only for their biggest donors and the average voter gets screwed coming and going. I try to vote for the person who seems to be the most honest and in-tune with what is going on in his/her district.

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