Why Did Whitey Cleaver Loose?

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Leo Weir

Erie, PA

#1 May 22, 2013
Think about this, Whitey Cleaver has been pretty low key while on county council, he only has a few years on council compared to the others but in the time he has been on council he has done a decent job.
You could say he rode the anti incumbent tide out with Grossman and Giles but Cleaver was not like them, he didn't have any scandle, he didn't break people's bal-s when he spoke to them and overall he tried to do what was right for the county.
The gentleman who beat Cleaver may be a great guy and from what I saw on tv of him he will work out just fine, he seems intelligent, decent looking and young.
But how did he win? And how did he gather so many votes for a new candidate who did not spend a lot of time or money on the race?
I believe he has city councilman Dave Brennan to thank, and in a big way. Brennan ran a hell of a great campaign, he was at everything and showed a sincere interest in people and their concerns. When people went in to vote they saw the names an voted for Dave Brennan and Jay Breneman, check the totals by district and see if I am right or wrong.
This would be a great column for Pat Howard if he is up to it, a little investigative reporting before he goes off to the Indy 500.
Breneman even look stunned when the news reporters had him on after it was declared he was the winner.
a voter

Erie, PA

#2 May 22, 2013
Leo Weir wrote:
Think about this, Whitey Cleaver has been pretty low key while on county council, he only has a few years on council compared to the others but in the time he has been on council he has done a decent job.
You could say he rode the anti incumbent tide out with Grossman and Giles but Cleaver was not like them, he didn't have any scandle, he didn't break people's bal-s when he spoke to them and overall he tried to do what was right for the county.
The gentleman who beat Cleaver may be a great guy and from what I saw on tv of him he will work out just fine, he seems intelligent, decent looking and young.
But how did he win? And how did he gather so many votes for a new candidate who did not spend a lot of time or money on the race?
I believe he has city councilman Dave Brennan to thank, and in a big way. Brennan ran a hell of a great campaign, he was at everything and showed a sincere interest in people and their concerns. When people went in to vote they saw the names an voted for Dave Brennan and Jay Breneman, check the totals by district and see if I am right or wrong.
This would be a great column for Pat Howard if he is up to it, a little investigative reporting before he goes off to the Indy 500.
Breneman even look stunned when the news reporters had him on after it was declared he was the winner.
Its a trend. Even in this backward locale a lot of folks are just tired of the old guard. Did I read that right where tucci said the gop is "too progessive"? The sooner old white guys realize times change the better.
Buddy Hinton

Erie, PA

#3 May 22, 2013
a voter wrote:
<quoted text> Its a trend. Even in this backward locale a lot of folks are just tired of the old guard. Did I read that right where tucci said the gop is "too progessive"? The sooner old white guys realize times change the better.
Gratz! It took one post for some idiot to play the race card. Way to go!
St Larry the Godless

Meadville, PA

#4 May 22, 2013
a voter wrote:
<quoted text> Did I read that right where tucci said the gop is "too progessive"?
O.M.F.G.
What would make him happy? Flogging homosexuals in the public square?
Doh

Erie, PA

#5 May 23, 2013
Why did he loose? Was he tight before?

fuktards
ZUGZWANG

Franklin, PA

#6 May 23, 2013
Doh wrote:
Why did he loose? Was he tight before?
fuktards
You are AWESOME! Way to catch the spelling error AND make yourself feel superior at the same time. Have you taken the test to get on the Police department? They're currently hiring for positions on the "Grammar and spelling" squad. Duties include combing through hundreds of responses looking for spelling and grammatical errors while trolling the Topix forums. Benefit packages are pending Union contracts but do include feelings of superiority and arrogance. You're also permitted to insult and use fun, censor evading words like "fuktard" and a$$hole.
If you are not currently on the squad or applying for the position, you should! You'd make a GREAT addition to their roster!
Doh

Erie, PA

#7 May 23, 2013
ZUGZWANG wrote:
<quoted text>You are AWESOME! Way to catch the spelling error AND make yourself feel superior at the same time. Have you taken the test to get on the Police department? They're currently hiring for positions on the "Grammar and spelling" squad. Duties include combing through hundreds of responses looking for spelling and grammatical errors while trolling the Topix forums. Benefit packages are pending Union contracts but do include feelings of superiority and arrogance. You're also permitted to insult and use fun, censor evading words like "fuktard" and a$$hole.
If you are not currently on the squad or applying for the position, you should! You'd make a GREAT addition to their roster!
I see getting under your skin is a refreshing perk for me posting, fuktard.
ZUGZWANG

Franklin, PA

#8 May 23, 2013
Doh wrote:
<quoted text>
I see getting under your skin is a refreshing perk for me posting, fuktard.
Another classic move. I am amused by this but by me posting, you feel that you are getting under my skin. Fact is that I am demolishing you and I am actually getting under YOUR skin. You have several potential moves but the 3 most likely are: 1.) Emasculation 2.) Claim that you "own" me because I keep on top of your posts and reply almost immediately. 3.) Insulting without purpose.

"ZUGZWANG"
Doh

Erie, PA

#9 May 23, 2013
ZUGZWANG wrote:
<quoted text>Another classic move. I am amused by this but by me posting, you feel that you are getting under my skin. Fact is that I am demolishing you and I am actually getting under YOUR skin. You have several potential moves but the 3 most likely are: 1.) Emasculation 2.) Claim that you "own" me because I keep on top of your posts and reply almost immediately. 3.) Insulting without purpose.
"ZUGZWANG"
A fuktard and a sadist. So glad I am NOT getting under your skin
ZUGZWANG

Franklin, PA

#10 May 23, 2013
Doh wrote:
<quoted text>
A fuktard and a sadist. So glad I am NOT getting under your skin
That makes 2 of us.
This will be my last response for today. This no longer amuses me. I have better things to do than to humiliate someone who has the intellectual equivalent of a beanstalk.
Hugs and kisses!
voting

Erie, PA

#11 May 23, 2013
I am going to try and take a swing at this, but i would say the reason he lost was because he didn't get enough votes.....just guessing though.
Doh

Erie, PA

#12 May 23, 2013
ZUGZWANG wrote:
<quoted text>That makes 2 of us.
This will be my last response for today. This no longer amuses me. I have better things to do than to humiliate someone who has the intellectual equivalent of a beanstalk.
Hugs and kisses!
Under this name perhaps fuktard. I look forward to your next incarnation
Ian

Cranesville, PA

#14 May 23, 2013
St Larry the Godless wrote:
<quoted text>
O.M.F.G.
What would make him happy? Flogging homosexuals in the public square?
Preferably with you doing the catching.
ZUGZWANG

Franklin, PA

#15 May 23, 2013
Doh wrote:
<quoted text>
Under this name perhaps fuktard. I look forward to your next incarnation
Don't lie, you are glad that I have a life. The whole "you can't quit posting" is a variation of the "I own you" defense. Fact is, had I not quit posting, you'd still be posting too. One must wonder who the puppet master is here.(Hint, I am calling on you to respond)
Responding makes me the puppet master.
Either way you lose, game over.

"ZUGZWANG"
Doh

Erie, PA

#16 May 24, 2013
ZUGZWANG wrote:
<quoted text>Don't lie, you are glad that I have a life. The whole "you can't quit posting" is a variation of the "I own you" defense. Fact is, had I not quit posting, you'd still be posting too. One must wonder who the puppet master is here.(Hint, I am calling on you to respond)
Responding makes me the puppet master.
Either way you lose, game over.
"ZUGZWANG"
And the obsession continues fuktard
XXXXX

Meadville, PA

#17 May 24, 2013
voting wrote:
I am going to try and take a swing at this, but i would say the reason he lost was because he didn't get enough votes.....just guessing though.
Thank you for the only sensible post on this subject. The guys using this forum to argue with each other have mental issues. Maybe they didn't get their jello for lunch at the Barber Center
Zugzwang

Erie, PA

#18 May 25, 2013
XXXXX wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you for the only sensible post on this subject. The guys using this forum to argue with each other have mental issues. Maybe they didn't get their jello for lunch at the Barber Center
And how would you know what's on the lunch menu at the Barber Center?

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