Wal-Mart Supercenter coming to Johnson City

May 10, 2007 Full story: Press & Sun-Bulletin 39

“We look forward to having Wal-Mart and its employees become a part of our community”

Newman Development Group on Wednesday announced plans to develop a Wal-Mart Supercenter and additional retail space near the Gannett Central New York Production Facility. via Press & Sun-Bulletin

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Heather Swartz

United States

#1 Oct 17, 2007
I think that having another Walmart in this area is absolutely ridiculous. Two of them in the same fricken county? Is it really that hard for people to drive to Vestal instead? And why does it have to be another "super center"? Isn't one enough? We have so many big businesses in this area already. Im not even proud of growing up here! What do we have to show for this area? WOW- MORE JOBS? Thats the only reason I see this being good. With that said, why is it so hard to get a fricken job around here with so many businesses covering this area. Look at how many people we have unemployed around here. Noone wants to fricken work at WALFART anyways. Everyone I've ever met that worked there ABSOLUTLY HATED it. All im trying to say is stop building more shit we already have and start building parks and fields to play in. We should be thinking more about planting organic gardens and teaching our kids how to survive on there own with out all these stupid money munching companies.

Contact me if you would like to talk more about this. I know alot of people with big opinions on this "wonderful" (shitty) new idea of a WALMART!:(

USArmy_Brat1989@yahoo.com
John Kahey

United States

#2 Oct 23, 2007
Wow, Heather..way to show your maturity with the Walfart comment. Are you 10 years old?. And thinkingthat your friends reprsent 100% of the population. Hate to break it to you, but walmart has one of the highest grades for employee satisfaction.
No one cares that YOU are not proud of living in the area. Because NO ONE who has been in the area in the last 20 years should be proud of what Johnson City, and the triple cities became. Walmart will not make it worse. More parks is a WONDERUFL idea. But in typical tree hugeger hippies fashion, you seem to think that they just appear magically and for free. Johnson City doesn't even have the money to maintain their current parks. They sure as hell can't build new ones. Time to live in the real world, Heather.
Jenni McCrone

Endicott, NY

#3 Oct 24, 2007
I have to say I concur with your opinions John. I don't think the over-all promblem is Wal-Mart per se. I also do not see how you can state Heather, that no one wants to work there. If that is the case, who are all those people there in uniforms? If they don't want to work there, why are they working there? If you respond that they cannot find jobs elsewhere and take a job at Wal-Mart as a last resort, then kudos to Wal-Mart for offering them the opportunity. I do not like the idea of big business coming in and, yet again, drowninig out the little businesses, but the problem does not rely solely on Wal-Mart. I also do not know that the answer to all of lifes problems in the Triple Cities is more parks. You are right John that J.C. needs to maintain their current parks, as does Binghamton. This would certainly help to beautify the area (unlike the crap that Binghamton has wasted money on i.e. fake brick on the roads) and offer children a safe and comfortable place to play. I don't know that I have the solution to the problem of Wal-Mart (except that they should have considered Upper Front St. instead of J.C.) but I don't think slamming a business for climbing on a money train resolves anything.
THEblackDAHLIAmu rder

Elmira, NY

#4 Nov 5, 2007
well i only read the top person,and wow.i worked at walmart an it was great..the people were nicer than anyone else i worked with.see i would try to keep distance from working with people like you.but whats to hate about a job..i work at price chopper now AND i hate it...i clean up after immiture people all day...people who go th the bath room all over the floor...so walmart is a big step up from that.AND as for building new parks HA..look how much money we have already..we are using it on stupid things like the river walk that leads to well no where..we all need jobs anyways,and some of the people who arent working are because they cant find a job.it took me 5 months to find a job after MCDONALDS.yea they wouldnt even hire me the first time..someone who dosent have any bad backround couldnt get a job at the bigest fast food restaurant in the world.so i think walmart would be a good place,but also it would be better on upper front street.never thought of that.but yes walmart does have alot to offer and they wont pay min wage..they go by how long you have worked..you could start out with 12$ a hour...
Christian Schaefer-Candor

Elmira, NY

#5 Nov 22, 2007
Wal-Mart should not be put in our community. It is a harmful corporation that only provides it working class with and average of about 13,000$ annual salary, the average poor working class of America of about 15,000$. Wal-Mart is only a hazardous company that puts community to shame and works on the slave like properties of foreign countries along with giving employees with no rights to provide goods for the people for lower prices and tell them not to depend on there giving health care but to more fall upon the state health care, bankruptcy and welfare to provide a profit for its self. I am very disappointed in our community in its effort to stop another social terrorist in our working class let alone our health, taxes and community value. They give little to none back to our people. They fire employees that are called as suspicious to unionize. Being the age of 15 I would love to not have to fall for Wal-Mart for employment and suffer the cruel downfall of which all of its employees to suffer just to get buy in life. One day I would like for our people to realize all the negative effects that Wal-Mart has to the community it invades.
-Movie Describes Negative Effects Of Wal-Mart
-Site That Made The Above Movie
-http://www.wakeupwalmart.com/
-http://walmartwatch.com/
These sites provided will give you in depth the negatives to a Wal-Mart and what little can be done to prevent it from occurring.
trixieslastgirl

Elmira, NY

#6 Jun 12, 2008
well, when is this going to actually happen? when is ground being broke and employment cntrs being set up...heard one going on clinton st.????its june 2008 now. thanks.
John

Owego, NY

#8 Jul 10, 2008
Thanks Christian...at least you made it clear htat you are just blindly believing the already THOROUGHLY debunked crap that those anti-Walmart "documentaries" spew. I bet you think that Michael Moore is a documentarian.(Most of the "facts" you repeated are proven lies, by the way.)

Bottom line...mom and pop stores are NOT coming back to Johnson City.(Or any city that has lost them.) Keeping walmart out will NOT make Main Street thrive again. those businesses are on life support and will never recover. The owners will make more money going to walmart for a job. People don't want to pay extra just to keep some 75 year old man in business when he can't see the writing on the wall and realize that the business his father founded is not profitable anymore. Oh, and ask the people working at those mom and pop stores what kind of benefits they are getting. Or pay. Answers...none and less than they get at Walmart.

As for Upper Front Street, blame that on the deal that the area made with Maines. No competing retailer can go anywhere near Maines.
shabeki

Endicott, NY

#9 Jul 11, 2008
John wrote:
Thanks Christian...at least you made it clear htat you are just blindly believing the already THOROUGHLY debunked crap that those anti-Walmart "documentaries" spew. I bet you think that Michael Moore is a documentarian.(Most of the "facts" you repeated are proven lies, by the way.)
1) Michael Moore is widely recognized as being a very respected documentarian.

2) Name something in those documentaries that has been "debunked."

3) Right-wing douchebags are in no position to say that others are repeating lies, based on the way the last couple of years have gone.

4) One Wal-Mart Supercenter being placed within 10 miles of another is going to cannibalize the other's business. The Wal-Mart in Vestal draws people as far south as Pennsylvania, as far north as Marathon, and as far east as Deposit. WTF does another in the general area accomplish?

Putting one in JC is a TERRIBLE idea and a waste of resources that could otherwise go towards a business that would fill another niche in the Greater Binghamton area. Want to make better use of that land? Give me a ****ing Citibank branch, a Blockbuster Video store, some high-class boutique stores (the Oakdale Mall does not count for jack here), a high-class restaurant on the level of the Plantation House and maybe even a higher-class hotel too now that this are has become such a joke that even the Holiday Inn has pulled out. THAT would make use of our wealthier citizens'(they exist) and SUNY kids' money (I would know; I'm one of them) and help the area better than another Wal-Mart. Or for the love of God, how about a good sporting goods/memorabilia store that actually stocks the stuff I ask for?

This idea smells of unoriginality. It's like killing the goose that lays golden eggs: "One Wal-Mart helped our area, so another must be twice as good!"
shabeki

Endicott, NY

#10 Jul 11, 2008
John Kahey wrote:
Wow, Heather..way to show your maturity with the Walfart comment. Are you 10 years old?. And thinkingthat your friends reprsent 100% of the population. Hate to break it to you, but walmart has one of the highest grades for employee satisfaction.
LOL, oh God, this country really is going to Hell when morons like these keep on breeding.

First of all, Johnny, Wal-Mart does not have higher grades for employee satisfaction. The numerous lawsuits they've faced that have cost them millions of dollars should tell you that. They've even been sued for not paying their workers overtime:

http://tinyurl.com/5ozg7c

Name one employee satisfaction survey that proves they're among the elite. I couldn't find one, but I found a customer satisfaction survey that proves they're among the lowest:

http://tinyurl.com/6racm5

And even now, that's almost 10 points lower than when they led the industry in 1994 in customer satisfaction. Wal-Mart is doing what it has to in order to turn a profit (I may be a liberal, but I'm also a capitalist). That doesn't mean that what's beneficial to them is necessarily beneficial to us.

As for your unsubstantiated vitriol about someone being a "tree-hugger," I wasn't aware that someone who wanted to reduce pollution and beautify our environment deserved such scorn.
billy s

Binghamton, NY

#11 Jan 3, 2009
i can't stand going to Walmart! my wife will be like, will u drive me to Walmart, which means take me to Walmart. i hate going to vestal. at the same time since i do the grocery shopping i do find Walmart is the move on great bulk pricing. i will love to see 1 in jc. it will make things so much easier. i won't go to some of the other stores, but u know what; i got bills to pay to and i can save some money.
dmtbinghamton

Denver, CO

#12 Jun 4, 2009
shabeki from Binghamton, NY stated "The Wal-Mart in Vestal draws people as far south as Pennsylvania, as far north as Marathon, and as far east as Deposit."

You're absolutely right about the number of customers that travel to Wal-Mart to shop. I've looked at the parking lot during the weekend, and OMG!!! What about during those Super Sales days, like "Black Friday"? The million dollar question was: WTF does another in the general area accomplish? I'll tell you what, as you mentioned, people are traveling pretty far just to shop. This economy is terrible and it's not getting any better no time soon. Gas prices are rediculously hicking, so why not help our fellow tax payers by (1) creating more jobs and (2) making travel easier. I like the idea of another Super Wal-Mart, it'll split those traveling from either side of the existing Vestal Store in half. Those going to Vestal won't feel intimidated by the crowded parking lot, or even the crowds in the store.

As for the Mom-and-Pop stores... I do feel terrible about them, but lets face reality that times are changing, prices are hicking, people are struggling and more and more people are finding themselves on the unemployment line. We have to accept these stores with open arms, because it's stores like this that will help boost our economy right now.
loking looking looking

Cebu, Philippines

#13 Oct 15, 2009
well all you people are not helping j c out you helping the chineese out remember back when walmart said they only buy american what a lie they caught them takeing off the made in china and putting made in america and you paid the american price they are nothing but money sucking people who is out for the buck dont be fooled they dont care about you or jc or bimghamton all they want is the almighty dollar and if they can get away with paying you 5.0 a hour so be it remember china wages are going up while ours are going down soon all of us will be in a line waiting for our daily allotment of rice thats right we dont eat rice but soon we will be why dont you have them put 5 more walmarts in your area speed up the process
douglas

Big Flats, NY

#14 Jan 25, 2010
we NEED a walmart on the binghamton/johnson city line like we are getting. It's a need. Not everyone has cars and its too much for the poor to catch two buses up and two back from the Vestal Walmart. It creates jobs, and alot of people only NEED a part time job. Walmart is the best thing happening to our area. Anybody who would say otherwise is just hatin.
Dask

Owego, NY

#15 Jan 27, 2010
I worked for walmart personally for about a year or so. I was fired because I 1. refused to loose about 20 hours over time they made me work. 2 I said the worst thing you can ever say ther, UNION. Walmart is so anti union its sick. They do not want to pay a fair living wage or any real benefits. McDonalds has a better benefit package then walmart does. FACT.
That said the reason I was fired was because I was late all the time. That was a lie. I was late twice the whole time. Once to get my sick grandmother the medication that helped keep her alive. They told me when I told them that, that WalMart should come before your sick grandmother. The second time I was late was because they scheduled me to work when I specifically told them I cant and will not work. Thier answer to that was well you dont have a choice. You must be available when the machine says you have to be or your priorities are wrong! WalMart must come before religous observance or personal/family time.
When I was fired they tried to strong arm me into signing all these papers. They brought all these large men in from recieving and surrounded me. They told me I was no longer allowed to own stock in thier company, and I was cheated out of my profit sharing from the entire year (like a thousand dolars).
I witnessed many other acts like this in the vestal store. Like only promoting this one guy because they were gettin in trouble because they didnt have enough non-white people as managers. This person was passed up numerous times for less qualified people and didnt get ahead till the equal oppertunity people steped in. That is wrong!!! WalMart is a cancer on the world, they take advantage where ever and when ever they possibly can. People think they are geettin a deal there too its laughable!!! Example of "big savings" you go buy a crappy E-machine PC from them for say 600 dollars. They paid literly 50 bucks for that.(I could build you a better one for 400)
You ever wonder why they dont have a butcher dept in the stores? Let me tell you. The butchers in WalMart went over managments head and formed a union to get better pay and benefits and hours. A week later Walmart got rid of every butcher dept in every store =P They have shut down entire stores that have formed local unions. End story WalMart is all about taking advantage any place it can and they have enough money lawyers and politacal pay offs to do what they want.

WalMart = EVIL. WalMart = Child labor. WalMart = Sweat shops. WalMart = Lies. But you people supporting them keep on doing so, I understand there is little choice for alot of people at this point in the game they have taken over......
Steven

Johnson City, NY

#16 May 6, 2010
Not quite right about Maines as Price Chopper is opening a new store in Chenango Bridge, the ground has already been broke.
Lakawak

Painted Post, NY

#17 May 18, 2010
DAsk is just another typical liar. It is clear you never worked there because everythng you claimed is verifiably a lie. Well, except for the poart about not liking unions...which is true. Because no sane company or person thiks that unions are a good idea in 2010.
Lakawak

Painted Post, NY

#18 May 18, 2010
Steven....the exclusivity deal may not extend that far north. From what I was told (which was second hand information) it only applied to the Northgate Plaza area. (Actually, the Plaza just north with the newer Giant.) Basically where Route 12 branches off from Route 11. The PRice Chopper is going in just above that.
ron

Carbondale, PA

#19 May 19, 2010
I think they should open a walmart in either kirkwood or conklin for the people in Pennsylvania.
jackass

Greene, NY

#20 May 25, 2010
thats right we should have walmart on upper front street...i live in castle creek.. and i hate driving all the way to vestal
madmilker

United States

#22 Jun 25, 2010
on Wal*Mart's China web page!

"Wal-Mart China persists in local procurement which provides more job opportunities, supports local manufacture industry and promotes local economy. So far, 95% of merchandising sold at Wal-Mart China store are local products by which Wal-Mart has established business relations with nearly 20,000 suppliers. At Wal-Mart, we treat suppliers as partners and would like to develop with them. In 2008 Wal-Mart won the Supplier Satisfaction published by Business Information of Shanghai for five consecutive years."

5% foreign in China....

That does not support American exports and American jobs.....

Remember what Lance Winslow wrote in that article "The Flow of Trade in a Global Economy"....dang! better yet...just take the time and read this ...."Now let us look at Wal-Mart again; you buy a product there, 6% goes to the employees, 10-18% is profit to the company, 25% goes to other costs and 50% goes to re-stock or the cost of goods sold. Of the 50% about 20-25% goes to China, a guess, but you get the point. Now then, how long will it take at 433 Billion dollars at year for China to have all of our money, leaving no money flow for us to circulate? At a 17 Trillion dollar economy less than 40-years minus the 1/6 they buy from us. Some say that if we keep putting money into our economy, it would take forever, but if we do not then eventually all the money flow will go. If China buys our debt then eventually they own us, no need to worry about a war, they are buying America, due in part to our own mismanaged trade, so whose fault is that? Not necessarily China, as they are doing what's in the best interests, and we should make sure that trade is not only free, but fair too."

Also, think for a moment about George Washington....yes the man that is on the US dollar bill.... "Washington had been reelected unanimously in 1792. His decision not to seek a third term established a tradition that is now embedded in the 22d Amendment of the Constitution."

Take the time to read his farewell address after only eight years of serving his country and than ask yourself this....How do you think George feels being sent overseas in return for all that foreign so-call cheap items and being left in a foreign bank because the American worker doesn't make anything for the foreigners to buy. Cheap items didn't make this great union of 57...oops! 50 states the greatest place on the face of this Earth.....the American worker (union and non-union) did.

You can't have a strong country without having a strong currency and you can't have a strong currency unless you keep it floating around within your 50 states. This is why the store with the star in the name puts 95% China made items in their stores in China....to keep their "yuan" in their country helping the nice people there. And with only 5% left for all the other 182 country's that make stuff including the United States of America....that doesn't produce very many jobs outside of China.

Being an old person myself and knowing how it was back in the 40's, 50's and 60's in this union of 50 states....I look at George each time I pull him out of my billfold and make a promise to send him out for items made in America so after floating around helping each hand he touches just maybe one day he will shake mine again.

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