As You See It: Nov. 10, 2009

My psychology degree fails me in trying to understand gentlemen like Forrest Huff, who is certainly in one because the Sentinel dares to throw a few editorial crumbs to the county's conservatives.

[dear Chuck]

http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/03/...

FYI- He already owned part of the RR and really only spent $26 Billion this go round.(ONLY 26B..lol)

"..that it planned to buy the 77.4 percent of Burlington Northern Santa Fe it did not already own for $26 billion in cash and stock, in the largest deal in Berkshire history."

"..total value to $44 billion.."

[nocklebeast]

Warren Buffet doesn't have anything to do with the rail trail or Santa Cruz.

http://baselinescenario.com/2009/11/07/warren...

[Eating]

Wow...defending Charles Krauthammer? Good job.

There have never been two men who's physical appearance has been more effected by the evil that oozes our of their thoughts than Charles Krauthammer and the Pope.

Look at either of them and you will see evil, evil that has completely taken over a physical body.

[Copperhead]

Hey Eating, Any more left wing dribble left in that small brain of yours? Its you and your lefty friends that think only your opinions count in the world. Well, all thats left to say is, wishful thinking.

[Mondragon]

To Ken Sovey, DITTO, DITTO DITTO. Great letter.

[dON hEICHEL - sOQUEL]

Eating wrote:

Wow...defending Charles Krauthammer? Good job.
There have never been two men who's physical appearance has been more effected by the evil that oozes our of their thoughts than Charles Krauthammer and the Pope.
Look at either of them and you will see evil, evil that has completely taken over a physical body.

I knew Eating would have nothing to say of substance...

Eating, you may now return to the Daily Show which features silly attacks and ignores the issues of substance; just like you!

Birds of a feather, Eating together.

[dON hEICHEL - sOQUEL]

Mondragon wrote:

To Ken Sovey, DITTO, DITTO DITTO. Great letter.

I agree and it's obviously too complex for someone that's just Eating to comprehend.

[Eating]

Whatever...here's what I know of substance. Every day I wake up to fabulous friends and a beautiful family. I work hard and enjoy it, then I play hard and enjoy it.

Then there are fear mongering talking heads that spew evil with an agenda, and there are people that listen and care about what those people say.

You can try to bash me all you want, but my life is awesome, and I can only imagine the fear and hate lived by people who think Charles Krauthammer has anything in mind except manipulating for the good of the power cabals.

Enjoy his writing, Don and others, I'm sure he'll bring a smile to your face all day.

[dON hEICHEL - sOQUEL]

I was surprised to read Steve Scheiblauer's opinion piece on marine protected areas.

Californians can take pride in leading the effort to restore fisheries worldwide.

John Pearse, Pacific Grove

California is NOT leading in restoring fisheries, it's decades behind the leader.

Alabama leads because they have been adding underwater structure to alter the sand/mud bottom and create marine ecosystems.

Google Alabama fish reefs and read it yourself.

Two researchers, one each from Alabama U and Auburn U declare those reefs add production, not just attraction with those reefs.

Why do learned types, like Mr. Pearse, ignore a proven approach and the main stream media not report it?

Because it does not fit uber wealthy Dilettante Julie Packard's POV?

[dON hEICHEL - sOQUEL]

Eating wrote:

Whatever...here's what I know of substance. Every day I wake up to fabulous friends and a beautiful family. I work hard and enjoy it, then I play hard and enjoy it.
Then there are fear mongering talking heads that spew evil with an agenda, and there are people that listen and care about what those people say.
You can try to bash me all you want, but my life is awesome, and I can only imagine the fear and hate lived by people who think Charles Krauthammer has anything in mind except manipulating for the good of the power cabals.
Enjoy his writing, Don and others, I'm sure he'll bring a smile to your face all day.

You mean dON, DON'TCHA?

Krauthammer HAS substance, Eating has grins and self-righteous chuckles.

Still waiting for a discussion of substance, Eating...I assume I can continue waiting.

[Skeptical]

Eating says "awesome".... Must be a teenager. No wonder. Should ban that word. Childish and immature as are his? opinions.

[dON hEICHEL - sOQUEL]

Predation, competition, and the recovery of
overexploited fish stocks in marine reserves

Marissa L. Baskett, Mary Yoklavich, and Milton S. Love (UCSB)

The existence of alternative states in communities
with intraguild predation, including the specific case in which competition and predation occur during different life history stages, means that the final state of the communities depends on which species dominates initially

These co-occurring species can interact when the juveniles of the larger species compete with the smaller species, as well as when the adults of the larger species prey on the smaller species. The smaller rockfish species represents one component of the larger species’varied diet; for example, yelloweye rockfish prey on Pacific herring (Clupea pallasii), Pacific sand lance (Ammodytes hexapterus), flatfishes, shrimps, and crabs, as well as smaller rockfishes (Love et al. 2002).

Before anthropogenic disturbance dominated the system, predation and competition pressure from the larger species likely kept the smaller species at low population densities, except in suboptimal habitats not occupied by larger species.

Now overfishing has substantially reduced population densities of the larger species, thereby releasing predation and competition pressures and likely causing a subsequent explosion in the smaller species’ populations in the higher quality habitat previously dominated by the larger species.

From surveys of rock habitats in deep water off California and Oregon, larger individuals of several overfished species of rockfishes, such as canary (Sebastes pinniger) and bocaccio
(Sebastes paucispinis), as well as yelloweye rockfish, are in low numbers or almost absent, whereas dwarf species such as halfbanded (Sebastes semicinctus) and squarespot (Sebastes hopkinsi) rockfishes, as well as pygmy rockfishes,
dominate the fish assemblages in these areas (Stein et al. 1992; Yoklavich et al. 2000, 2002).

Though fisheries closures are implemented in response to overfishing, competition between expanded populations of the smaller species and juveniles of the larger species may slow or prevent the overfished larger species from recovering (MacCall 2002; Mangel and Levin 2005).

Stock assessments and rebuilding plans for overfished populations currently use single-species models (Punt 2003), which ignore the interactions described above.

Regardless of whether species interactions cause shifts to alternative stable states or simply slow recovery following anthropogenic disturbance, the outcome is a reason for concern (Knowlton 2004), and management decisions may need to account for community interactions.

Although the general response of marine communities to reserve establishment can be an increase in numbers and biomass (Halpern and Warner 2002), the combination of historical
overfishing and community interactions may impede recovery of specific species with reserve establishment.

http://www.lovelab.id.ucsb.edu/Baskett_et_al....

ARE YOU CERTAIN YOU REVIEWED THE MARINE PROTECTED AREAS SCIENCE, JOHN PEARSE?

APPEARS THAT YOU MISSED THIS ONE FROM UCSB...

BTW, OVERFISHING WAS FROM COMMERCIAL TYPE FISHING THAT DRAGS A NET OVER THE BOTTOM AND DESTROYS THEIR (FISH) HABITAT...SO you COULD HAVE CHEAP FISH IN THE GROCERY STORE! BRILLIANT!!

DON'T TAR RECREATIONAL FISHING AS PART OF THE OVERFISHING PROBLEM.

WANT FISH? ALABAMA HAS LESS THAN 5% OF THE U.S. GULF COAST AND OVER 33% OF THE RECREATIONALLY LANDED ROCK FISH ON THAT COAST.

THE ECONOMIC BENEFITS OF THEIR BUILDING UNDERWATER STRUCTURE IS HUGE FOR ALABAMA AND IS EXPANDING!!!

WHAT CAN YOUR MPA's POINT TO EXCEPT DISAGREEING RESEARCHERS?

[dON hEICHEL - sOQUEL]

Pollution is a major cause of Marine life problems:

http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/boatus/200911...

Steering the Rebirth of Tampa Bay

Page 23

And because storm-water runoff is the top source of pollution, Bay Watch now has a storm-drain-marking program to raise public awareness of this problem, providing one more way to make the bay cleaner.

By Terry Tomalin, outdoor editor of the St. Petersburg Times

[Mondragon]

Hey Eating. Just who has the agenda here? Its your lefty friends. Just take a look at the economy and ask yourself and your lefty friends just how long the left is going to keep us in this mess. "Never waste a good crisis" is your sides motto. You probably work for the Government which explains your small mind. If you think life is great ask the one in six Citizens across this Nation who are unemployed just how great life is. If your not afraid of what the Federal Government is doing to this Nation then I can come to the conclusion that you Sir have NO SUBSTANCE between you ears. Its also unfortunate that you are passing this mindless DRIBBLE of yours on to your family.

[dON hEICHEL - sOQUEL]

Pollution (Monterey Bay Sanctuary POV):

http://montereybay.noaa.gov/sac/2008/081508/0...

Major Findings
• Rivers are the largest measured source of most
POPs
• Legacy contaminants are still entering Monterey
Bay and impairing benefificial uses
• Contaminants of emerging concern are a serious
issue (Sewage dumped in the ocean)
– Different sources from legacy contaminants
• Loads of POPs from non-river urban sources
unknown
• Keep sediment from washing into the ocean

[jimi doss]

Ken Sovey, Soquel,,,,,

Well said and very accurate description ,,, Thanks

[No Rail Purchase]

Chuck Huddleston of Aptos, your letter makes little sense at all. You can't seriously equate Buffett's purchase of the RR plan with the rail line in Santa Cruz?

Your letter is indicative of the general fuzzy thinking (or lack of) that supporters of the insane rail-trail concept tend to espouse. Your leap in logic is astounding, a world record perhaps.

Thanks for the reminder on the OP piece by Ron Marquez, I missed it last Sunday. It was well reasoned and had facts supporting his argument. You might try that next time you want to get a point across. That is, have a point.

NO RAIL CORRIDOR PURCHASE. STOP THE INSANITY!

[Jennifer]

Eating wrote:

Whatever...here's what I know of substance. Every day I wake up to fabulous friends and a beautiful family. I work hard and enjoy it, then I play hard and enjoy it.
Then there are fear mongering talking heads that spew evil with an agenda, and there are people that listen and care about what those people say.
You can try to bash me all you want, but my life is awesome, and I can only imagine the fear and hate lived by people who think Charles Krauthammer has anything in mind except manipulating for the good of the power cabals.
Enjoy his writing, Don and others, I'm sure he'll bring a smile to your face all day.

Yea right, You are perfect in your hate. You started the hate by putting down an opposing view. If you life is so awesome why not live and let live. Let it go.,

[Eating]

Mondragon wrote:

Hey Eating. Just who has the agenda here? Its your lefty friends. Just take a look at the economy and ask yourself and your lefty friends just how long the left is going to keep us in this mess. "Never waste a good crisis" is your sides motto. You probably work for the Government which explains your small mind. If you think life is great ask the one in six Citizens across this Nation who are unemployed just how great life is. If your not afraid of what the Federal Government is doing to this Nation then I can come to the conclusion that you Sir have NO SUBSTANCE between you ears. Its also unfortunate that you are passing this mindless DRIBBLE of yours on to your family.

My goodness...I was afraid of what the Federal Government is doing to this Nation starting a long time ago, and most recently reaching a peak as George W. Bush and Dick Cheney took our country, and then took it to war on Iraq, and spent $600 billion, etc.

Now you are sitting up and saying "hey wait, our federal government, now that a democrat is the president, is scandalous!" And, to boot, you are trying to say the current economic situation has anythign to do with who was president the last 12 months, and nothing to do with the 8 years before that. Ha! And you are trying to pin me as small minded, dare I say even "ignorant".

Good try. Again, I see through the silly tricks that both sides try to play while controlling everything and neither side ever doing anything for the good of the people. Yet you sit and say the left is bad but Charles Krauthammer is valid. That, to me, is a joke.

And so is thinking that anything you say on this forum of your so-called substance does anything to contribute to anything. Try not to read Charles Krauthammer or Maureen Odowd at all, instead go outside, enjoy your friends, wait 4 years and there will be new complaints and accusations about who ever is president on whatever subject they want to be dividing you over and making you argue. In the mean time at least you'll start working towards weening yourselves from talking heads.

[My two cents]

Eating wrote:

Wow...defending Charles Krauthammer? Good job.
There have never been two men who's physical appearance has been more effected by the evil that oozes our of their thoughts than Charles Krauthammer and the Pope.
Look at either of them and you will see evil, evil that has completely taken over a physical body.

Hey Eating! You're eating now, but for how long? The obamination WILL throw you under the bus. It's starting already. Are you getting all the "hope and change you voted for? How do you like it so far? Are you ready to start paying 45% or more in taxes?? Somewhere in Kenya there's a village that's missing it's idiot. He's ignorant, arrogant and totally in over his jug eared head.
Krauthammer is one of the more intelligent, thoughtful and forthright commentators.
He is also dealing with a life threatening illness that has a good deal to do with how he appears. It is better that YOU shut your mouth and be thought a fool, than to open it and remove all doubt! Maybe look up the word "Evil".