Coming up in Copenhagen

Coming up in Copenhagen

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“Why is this so difficult?”

Since: Dec 09

timbuktu

#1 Dec 6, 2009
http://www.emporiagazette.com/news/2009/dec/0...

Feel free to pick up here, in a local but free environment, where you left off

Since: Dec 09

Americus, KS

#2 Dec 6, 2009
I don't think we (our President) ought to go over to Copenhagen and commit us to anything. This many people running around on this earth are bound to have an impact on it. It has been around for a long time and has looked out for itself well thus far along the way. The fact that the scientific data had to be massaged to assure global warming,
is pretty scary. Me thinks no new international laws need to be established to fix something that may not be broken.

Since: Dec 09

Emporia, KS

#3 Dec 7, 2009
But if it is broken we might not know until it is too late. And yes, the planet does show some tendency to heal itself usually by ridding itself of the problem......in this case us. So why not try a little CYA just for insurance if nothing else.
create

Derby, KS

#5 Dec 7, 2009
I was unhappy to hear that the research info on global warming had been skewed. Makes me wonder what else has been. This should be a watch and listen tour for our Pres, no new commitments right now.

Since: Dec 09

Emporia, KS

#6 Dec 7, 2009
create

I certainly agree with the disappointment.....makes me feel kinda used

Since: Dec 09

Americus, KS

#7 Dec 7, 2009
Exacty my thoughts on this issue.

Since: Dec 09

Americus, KS

#8 Dec 7, 2009
create; yiur screen looks different than ours. I wonder why? Did you verify your e-mail address?

Since: Dec 09

Emporia

#9 Dec 7, 2009
Regardless, we should be taking care of the Earth and the environment. We clean our houses, this is also our home we should be taking care of it as such.
create

Derby, KS

#10 Dec 7, 2009
castaway, re: my screen looking different than eveyone elses -- I suppose I could respond to that with a smart comment about being so special, but I shall refrain. LOL

I don't know why I'm not in front of a green screen. I want to be normal, I really do.

I tried to register, but found that my e-mail had been registered once before to "eikciv" which is a handle I've used on other sites in the past.(Now you know my first name). I had apparently registered once before during the presidential campaign when I had made a comment. Soooo, to become "create," I just changed my name on the site itself when it asks "not your real name?" and it worked for that.

Now I don't know how to change it. I've e-mailed the topix admin for advice on how to change. Hope I hear from them.

Since: Dec 09

Americus, KS

#11 Dec 7, 2009
Oh I see, just want to make sure you are a full permanent member ond don't get the auto drop from topix. Not sure how all that works. Pretty name!

“Why is this so difficult?”

Since: Dec 09

timbuktu

#12 Dec 7, 2009
I don't, personally believe that global warming is more than than a cycle....heard that what we are seeing is very possibly the result of the air current direction that the hot air coming off the African desert is presently going......but if it isn't, it has occurred to me that black mold will become nature's defender against global warming. We all know that it thrives in warm, moist climates and that most people can be killed by prolonged exposure to it. I am seeing more of it here in Emporia than I did five years ago, so..........
Should this scare us into committing to climate control government? Should it comfort us that we can't ruin the world?

Since: Dec 09

Location hidden

#13 Dec 7, 2009
Normally, when the energy companies want to raise the cost of gasoline, natural gas and electricity, they just get the Republican Party to start a war in the Middle East then blame their thievery on the war. The Democrats don’t like wars so they needed something that they could blame for allowing the thieves to rob us too. Democrats like big contributions too. They came up with this crazy thing called climate change as an excuse to allow big oil bend us over without looking like they are in bed with them too. Listen to them explain the costs involved in re-inventing the grid. They need a new grid to get the power from the industrial wind turbines to our homes. Of course, they want big government to build them a new grid and give them tax breaks for their industrial turbines and all that stuff. I call it welfare for the dirty rotten stinking filthy rich.

If the government really wanted to lower our carbon footprint, they would require all new construction of homes to be totally off grid. Installing solar electric panels and small wind turbine generators would provide all the electric requirements of a single family home. The homes could be heated and cooled with a geothermal system by drilling a deep hole and circulating water through it then use that water to heat and or cool the home. Requiring new home construction to be off grid would only add about 10K to the construction cost.

Of course that would take the energy monopoly away from big oil so they are demonstrating to me that they really don’t care about the environment. Only money.

Since: Dec 09

Kansas City, KS

#14 Dec 7, 2009
Whether one believes in man-made global warming or not, it's going to be pretty pointless whatever is decided in Copenhagen as long as China and India refuse to sign on.

Dems. Wars. Vietnam. History. ;-)

Since: Dec 09

Emporia, KS

#15 Dec 7, 2009
open_eyes.....Glad to see you! I don't know if what we are seeing is a normal adjustment or the beginning of our end.....but I do believe that an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. I also believe if the earth is left to cure itself it will do so by eliminating us....so why not at least talk about ways we can do better than just declaring it all a liberal or conservative plot.

Since: Dec 09

Kansas City, KS

#16 Dec 7, 2009
Thx biscuit ;-).

I never referred to lib/conserv plots whatsoever regarding global warming, or meant to imply any such connection. From my post about the pointlessness of it I guess I mean we will strangle our own manufacturing and productivity..... for nothing, as China & India steam ahead full speed.

As far as eliminating pollution however, I'm all for it. I do what I can - recycling, etc. I try very hard to stay away from the Al Gore lifestyle - LOL.

My mentions of Dems/Vietnam was in response to YY4U's remark about how much Republicans like war and Dems don't ;-).

“Why is this so difficult?”

Since: Dec 09

timbuktu

#17 Dec 7, 2009
I thought this site has some rather interesting info....
http://www.crh.noaa.gov/ict/climate/f6form.ph...

I just like to look at what the hard evidence says to me.

“Flooded emotions = lower IQ”

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#18 Dec 7, 2009
It occurs to me that whether or not evidence has been skewed, we have at least done a good thing by paying attention to some serious disturbances in our atmosphere that may have been caused by some sort of global warming. Even recycling is a good thing that many individuals have been doing. Imagine all the reclaimed steel that would ordinarily just be laying around becoming homes for rodents.

I did see the unusual pools of melting in the high Himalayas on CNN today; that was rather disturbing and leads me to believe that something is wrong somewhere.

YY, I like your idea about going off grid on new home construction. If I were building a new home today, I would incorporate all the cost-saving and planet-saving measures I could possibly afford.

“Flooded emotions = lower IQ”

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#19 Dec 7, 2009
Oh yeah, hope you are all ready for this snow storm that is forecast. I hope it changes because I have a Christmas party to attend tomorrow evening and I really want to go, but not if it's snowing heavily or if the roads are bad. (create)

Since: Dec 09

Emporia, KS

#20 Dec 7, 2009
open_eyes

I did not mean to imply that you had mentioned any such plots. Only meant to imply that the issue had been fought primarily on liberal/conservative grounds with both sides accusing the other of manipulation of the data.
open_eyes

Kansas City, KS

#21 Dec 7, 2009
Sorry, biscuit, I misunderstood, my apologies.

As I said, either way, I'm all for cleaning up the environment and lessening pollution.

First thing we need to do towards that end is get rid of a ton of politicians......

Hey! I think I just coined a new phrase for them:

"Polluticians"

LOLOLOL ;-)

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