How to become a Christian

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Saul

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#1 Mar 11, 2010
How does one become a christian?

Did the Lord tell Saul (the apostle Paul) what to do to become a christian?

Most likely your preacher will say yes. But when you look at the account of the apostle Paul's conversion you will find that the Lord told Saul to go to a preacher (Ananias) and he would tell Saul what to do.(Acts 9:6).

There is a basic bible principle that will not allow a Heavenly vessel (the Lord at that time) to tell an earthen vessel (Saul) how to be saved.(2Cor.4:7).

7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.

This basic principle is contrary to denominational teachings (and Calvinism).

You will notice that someone is preaching a message, someone hears that message and decides to submit to that simple message (the gospel)(Acts 18:8)(Rom.6:16-18).

Notice the Corinthians -

...many of the Corinthians hearing believed, and were baptized.(Acts 18:8)

What kind of baptism?(Acts 8:38,39).

Water immersion for the remission of sins (Acts 2:36-47 ; 22:16)

15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.(Mark 16:15,16)

This simple principle of earthen vessels preaching to other earthen vessels is not accepted by the denominational world (2Tim.2:2).

So ask yourself if what you just read is what you have been taught and what you believe.

The next question is, how long will you continue to believe a false doctrine which clearly opposes the word of God.

Notice what the bible says about the conversion of Cornelius in (Acts 10).

13....whose surname is Peter;

14 Who shall tell thee words, whereby thou and all thy house shall be saved.(Acts 11:13,14)



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For the Faith Alone

United States

#2 Mar 11, 2010
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(John 3:16)

The apostle Paul (an inspired man) said Agrippa was a believer. There is no disputing this point. Either you believe the bible or you reject what the bible says (John 12:48).

If all one must do is what (John 3:16) tells us, then Agrippa will be saved. For he was a believer according to (Acts 26:28).

27 King Agrippa, believest thou the prophets? I know that thou believest.

28 Then Agrippa said unto Paul, Almost thou persuadest me to be a Christian.

But the inspired word of God says the following.

28 Then Agrippa said unto Paul, Almost thou persuadest me to be a Christian.

...Almost thou persuadest me to be a Christian.

...Almost thou persuadest me to be a Christian.

...Almost thou persuadest me to be a Christian.

Agrippa believing that the Lord lived, died upon the cross and rose again the third day did not make Agrippa a Christian. The bible says this not me.

What will you do with this bible information?

1. You can accept it as the word of God and study to learn what man must do to be saved.(Acts 2:36-47 ; 8:5,12,13,26-39 ; 22:16)

2. You can continue to teach one must only believe to be saved and oppose what (Acts 26:28) plainly says.

Who will search for truth and hold onto it like a treasure?(Mt.13:44)

44 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto treasure hid in a field; the which when a man hath found, he hideth, and for joy thereof goeth and selleth all that he hath, and buyeth that field.

Will you give up what you currently believe to accept and teach truth (John 17:17)? Giving up what you believe now may be the equivalent to selling all you have for your family may disown you for believing and teaching truth (Mt.10:34-40)

37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

Heaven will be worth it all.

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Since: Oct 08

Danville, VA

#3 Apr 16, 2010
Can you tell me when Abraham was justified per Paul's Teaching, before or after circumcision?

Can you tell me when Cornelius was justified before God?
Faith- Rom-10-17

United States

#4 Apr 18, 2010
Faith- Rom-10-17

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#5 Apr 18, 2010
Abraham had been obedient to God for along time before the Ten commandments were ever given (Rom.4:10).

Who will be those children which have the faith of Abraham?

12 And the father of circumcision to them who are not of the circumcision only, but who also walk in the steps of that faith of our father Abraham, which he had being yet uncircumcised.

... who also walk in the steps of that faith..

... who also walk in the steps of that faith..

... who also walk in the steps of that faith...

So the bible defines who will be blessed by God and it is not those who believe "alone" as many false prophets teach today. All we have to do is read all of (Rom. 4) instead of just part of it to know truth.

Notice also (Acts 10:34,35)(John 9:31)(Heb.5:9)


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Since: Oct 08

Danville, VA

#6 Apr 19, 2010
Can you tell me when Abraham was justified per Paul's Teaching, before or after circumcision?

Can you tell me when Cornelius was justified before God?

In your own words please explain how Cornelius was going to hell while at the same time his prayers were a memorial to God...

Please do tell, I'll make some popcorn for the story! And for that matter please tell me where Peter is told about the statement he makes in Acts 11? In Acts 10 there is nothing about salvation spoken of by the Angel.

Could it be that Peter did not have the complete picture? He certainly had to be taught by God about Gentiles through a vision!
Be Wise

United States

#7 Apr 21, 2010
God spoke through a donkey once. Truth is truth.
You asked for an answer to your question I found one for you.

It matters not if I speak it or another person speaks it. You can go to the bible and check to see if it is actually truth (Acts 17:11)(John 5:39)(1John 4:1-6).

11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

You can accept it or reject it.(Acts 28:24)

24 And some believed the things which were spoken, and some believed not.

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Cornelius

Emory, TX

#8 Sep 7, 2010
Was Cornelius Saved Without Baptism?

http://www.christiancourier.com/articles/186-...

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The Unique Case of Cornelius

http://www.christiancourier.com/articles/1501...

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Six Great Truths Cornelius Can Teach Us.

http://www.christiancourier.com/articles/393-...

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Acts 10 & 11 Was Cornelius Saved Before Being Baptism?

http://www.christiancourier.com/articles/537-...

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Does The Case of Cornelius Prove The Sinners Prayer Doctrine

http://www.christiancourier.com/articles/660-...

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Is Holy Spirit Baptism Available Today?

http://www.christiancourier.com/articles/519-...

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heartandmind

Moline, IL

#10 Sep 8, 2010
typical nova and heath-72 responses. or should i say lack of responses.
Scriptures

Emory, TX

#11 Sep 8, 2010
heartandmind wrote:
typical nova and heath-72 responses. or should i say lack of responses.
The Lord answered the devil with scriptures in (Mt.4:4).

4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

In just the post about Cornelius alone I wonder how many scriptures are in those lessons. We are not trying to get people to listen to our thoughts but rather we want them to go to the word of God and understand what God has to say on the matter. Just as the Lord said in (Mt.4:4).

If there is error in those lessons expose it (Eph.5:11).

11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

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Scriptures

Emory, TX

#12 Sep 8, 2010
Cornelius wrote:
Was Cornelius Saved Without Baptism?
http://www.christiancourier.com/articles/186-...
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The Unique Case of Cornelius
http://www.christiancourier.com/articles/1501...
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Six Great Truths Cornelius Can Teach Us.
http://www.christiancourier.com/articles/393-...
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Acts 10 & 11 Was Cornelius Saved Before Being Baptism?
http://www.christiancourier.com/articles/537-...
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Does The Case of Cornelius Prove The Sinners Prayer Doctrine
http://www.christiancourier.com/articles/660-...
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Is Holy Spirit Baptism Available Today?
http://www.christiancourier.com/articles/519-...
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There are approx. 128 scriptures in the lessons above. Some of those are actually sections of scriptures. I would say that anyone who spends the time to study the lesson and put that information on paper so others can benefit from that information are willing to respond to questions people ask us.

Sad to say but not all people are willing to acknowledge the work members of the church of Christ have done to get the truth out to people. So they claim a lesson written down is a non-response. If that be true then the Lord gave Satan a non-response in (Mt.4:4) and following.

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William

Warrior, AL

#14 Jan 5, 2013
Why didn't Peter tell Cornelius that Christ died for his sins, and resurrected by God for his justification?

Slip his mind?
Preach the Gospel

Leonard, TX

#15 Jan 9, 2013
William wrote:
Why didn't Peter tell Cornelius that Christ died for his sins, and resurrected by God for his justification?
Slip his mind?
How do you know he didn't?

...Now therefore are we all here present before God, to hear all things that are commanded thee of God.(Acts 10:33)

34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: 35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

36 The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ:(he is Lord of all:)

35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.


*CARE to tell me what "working righteousness" happens to be?

Are you told what "ALL" Cornelius was told on that day?



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William

Birmingham, AL

#16 Jan 13, 2013
"How do you know he didn't?"

Because he didn't know that Christ had died FOR his sins. That was given to Paul.

1 Corinthians 15:1-4

Paul says that it was given to him FIRST OF ALL. What was he given?

That Christ died FOR your sins, was buried, and resurrected for your justification.
Cornelius Act 10

Quinlan, TX

#17 Jan 14, 2013
...Now therefore are we all here present before God, to hear all things that are commanded thee of God.(Acts 10:33)

35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.
36 The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ:(he is Lord of all:)

sent unto the children of Israel

sent unto the children of Israel

sent unto the children of Israel

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...38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

39 And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; ...

...whom they slew and hanged on a tree:

40 Him God raised up the third day,...

43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.

47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.



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William

Birmingham, AL

#18 Jan 14, 2013
Yep.

Now why didn't Peter tell them that Christ died FOR their sins and resurrected for their justification?

1 Corinthians 15:1-4
Galatians 2:16

...in a KJV.

Because that is what Christ gave to Paul. Why didn't he give it to Peter too?

Rightly divide the word of truth.
Till Unity - Faith

Quinlan, TX

#19 Jan 14, 2013
William wrote:
Yep.
Now why didn't Peter tell them that Christ died FOR their sins and resurrected for their justification?
1 Corinthians 15:1-4
Galatians 2:16
...in a KJV.
Because that is what Christ gave to Paul. Why didn't he give it to Peter too?
Rightly divide the word of truth.


They (apostles) each had a "part".

9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.(1Cor.13:8)

When all the "parts" (information / the completed revelation) came together they put it all in writing and it is called the bible.(2Peter 1:3)



*11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:(Eph. 11:14)

Till we all come in the unity of the faith,

Till we all come in the unity of the faith,

Till we all come in the unity of the faith,

3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness,(2Peter 1:3)(Jn 14:26)(Jn 16:13).

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William

Birmingham, AL

#20 Jan 15, 2013
They (apostles) each had a "part".

You got that right! Galatians 2 outlines who got what part, and to whom it was to go forth to.

Why do you suppose Paul even had to come along in the first place? Wasn't the so-called Great Commission of Matthew 28:19 and Mark 16:14-20 enough to get the job done with what Christ sent the 11 (then 12, when Mathias came along) to go into all the world and do?

Then, in Acts 9, this pestilent little Jew named Saul gets tapped by the resurrected Christ for a job. Why wasn't Saul even listed in the first four books of the NT, or a part of the goings on at the infamous Day of Pentecost in Acts 2?

I can guarantee you this ... on that Day of Pentecost, he was most certainly not out preaching "saved by grace through faith, and not of works." Then he comes along, and is sent NOT to baptize while the 11/12 WERE sent to baptize.

Paul was out of the Great Commission given to the 11/12 because of that fact. Just like the 11/12 were never sent to preach that Christ died FOR anyone's sins, was buried, and resurrected for their justification. Christ sent the 11/12 out to teach all nations everything he had taught them, but not so were those instructions given to Paul. Far, far from it.

Since: Jan 10

Royse City

#21 Jan 16, 2013
William wrote:
They (apostles) each had a "part".

You got that right! Galatians 2 outlines who got what part, and to whom it was to go forth to.

Why do you suppose Paul even had to come along in the first place? Wasn't the so-called Great Commission of Matthew 28:19 and Mark 16:14-20 enough to get the job done with what Christ sent the 11 (then 12, when Mathias came along) to go into all the world and do?

Then, in Acts 9, this pestilent little Jew named Saul gets tapped by the resurrected Christ for a job. Why wasn't Saul even listed in the first four books of the NT, or a part of the goings on at the infamous Day of Pentecost in Acts 2?

I can guarantee you this ... on that Day of Pentecost, he was most certainly not out preaching "saved by grace through faith, and not of works." Then he comes along, and is sent NOT to baptize while the 11/12 WERE sent to baptize.

Paul was out of the Great Commission given to the 11/12 because of that fact. Just like the 11/12 were never sent to preach that Christ died FOR anyone's sins, was buried, and resurrected for their justification. Christ sent the 11/12 out to teach all nations everything he had taught them, but not so were those instructions given to Paul. Far, far from it.
Amen to every passage.

Those in Acts 2:38 earned their salvation?

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William

Atlanta, GA

#22 Jan 16, 2013
Those who obeyed Acts 2:38 were not saved. They had to endure to the end to have their sins forgiven at the second coming of Christ. Acts 3:19 lays this out.

Not so our salvation. We trust that Christ died FOR our sins, and we are forgiven all our trespasses.

Paul's gospel is OUR gospel. 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 ... Romans 2:16.

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