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Asking questions in the baptist church will get u hurt

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Just Questions

Carrollton, TX

#1 May 22, 2012
Asking questions in the baptist church will get you hurt.

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Disciple

Caddo Mills, TX

#2 May 23, 2012
If someone refuses to allow you to test what they teach beware of that person.

We are to test every person according to (1John 4:1-6)(Acts 17:11).

1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.


Angel Heart

Greenville, TX

#3 Jun 10, 2012
I had a conversation with a Baptist preacher about faith "only" salvation.

He confessed he taught this very doctrine.

So I began asking him questions about this doctrine.

He quoted (Rom 10:9,10).

Here is what it says.

9 That if thou shalt CONFESS with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth CONFESSION is made unto salvation.

Can you see the problem he has with his doctrine?

Not only does (Rom. 10:9,10) teach one must believe but it also says one must "CONFESS" the Lord Jesus rose from the dead by the power of God with thy mouth.

Friend "confession" is an action on the part of the lost person.

It is something the New Testament teaches one must do to be saved.

That is NOT faith only salvation.

So I told the Baptist preacher the very verse he quoted me which he thought taught salvation by faith "alone" actually was saying the alien sinner needed to "confess" with the mouth the Lord Jesus rose from the dead by the power of God.

The Baptist preacher got upset with me.

He began belittling me.

Friend has a preacher talked down to you when you asked a simple question?

This should never happen, but it does all the time.

The preacher at this point did not have an answer for the position which he found himself in and instead of evaluating the situation honestly he decided to belittle me (and you).

The truth of the matter is that the very scripture he said taught faith "only" salvation actually showed he was in error.

He has been a Baptist preacher for a long time and either he never noticed it or he has noticed it and has chose to reject what (Rom. 10:9,10) truly taught.

We are told to test each and every person for there are many false teachers in the world (1John 4:1-6).

We are told in (Hosea 4:6) that My people are destroyed for a lack of knowledge.

In this case they had forgotten the law, but today most people have never known what the New Testament Law says.

The preacher could be reading out of a cook-book on Sunday morning and most people would never know he was not reading out of the Bible.

WHY?

B/c people are NOT obeying the verse below.

11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.(Acts 17:11)

Do you believe and teach a faith only salvation?

Do you go to (Rom. 10:9,10) to teach that faith only salvation?

Have you ever read (James 2:24)?

24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

Friend the Bible does not contradict itself.

So who is wrong?

Those teaching faith "only" saves or Gods Word?

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Angel Heart

Greenville, TX

#4 Jun 10, 2012
I am sure most people will not think what you just read above is a serious matter.

But wait just a moment.


Read the scripture below.

9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God...(2John 9)


One might ask, what is the doctrine of Christ?

3 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; 4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, 5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.(1Tim. 6:3)

Words of Jesus = Doctrine

3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.(John 15:3)

What will you do with these words of Jesus?

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Angel Heart

Greenville, TX

#5 Jun 12, 2012
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Tax Code Religion

Greenville, TX

#6 Jun 12, 2012
Many people look at religion like they do their taxes. They figure they cannot understand the tax code so they allow someone else to tell them what to do.

When it comes to your taxes that is well and fine. But in the realm of religion and spiritual matters we best be checking our own ticket and studying our own Bibles.

What if the preacher we are listening to happens to be wrong in his understanding of the Bible?

1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.(1John 4:1-6)
John

Leonard, TX

#7 Jun 17, 2012


Denominational churches have creed-books they get there marching orders from rather than just using the bible as the only guide on spiritual matters (Deut. 4:2)(1Cor. 4:6)(Rev. 22:18,19).

If you do not ask your preacher about this creed-book he may never mention it.

Get him to show it to you.

In fact, get one for yourself and check the information in the creed-book with what the Bible says.

You just might be shocked at what you find.

I have spoke to people in denominations which told me they did not have a creed-book. They truly thought the church they attended used the Bible alone as their guide on spiritual matters. Not so.

It may be difficult to ask the preacher about these matters but you must make sure your calling and election is SURE according to (2Peter 1:10).

10 Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:

We are not talking about a cookbook so you can make a cake. We are speaking about eternity in either heaven or hell (Mt. 25)

32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

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Creed-books

Caddo Mills, TX

#8 Jul 9, 2012
It looks like people lean towards having creed-books and obeying them rather than obeying the word of God.

48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.(John 12:48)

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What 01

Caddo Mills, TX

#9 Jul 22, 2012
Have you seen this?
Sidestep Truth

Whitewright, TX

#10 Jul 27, 2012
It has been said people will believe a lie before they will believe truth.

Many people will be lost for eternity b/c of traditions on men.

There is a small booklet called -

"Traditions of Men vs The Word of God"

It cost about $5.00. That is a small price to pay.

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Say Baptism

Caddo Mills, TX

#11 Aug 28, 2012
Why is it that some people reject water baptism for the remission of sins?

(Acts 2:38)

38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

(1Peter 3:20,21)

20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us...

22 Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.(Heb. 10:22)

12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.(Col. 2:12)


27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.(Gal. 3:27)


3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? 4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.(Rom. 6:3,4)

Notice "newness" of life comes after being baptized in water and not before.(2Cor. 5:17).

15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.(Mark 16:15,16)

Notice that (Mk 16:15,16) states that baptism (water immersion) is a part of the gospel which saves.

What does your preacher teach on this matter?

There really should be no argument for the person who has a good and honest heart (Luke 8:15).

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Nova

Caddo Mills, TX

#12 Sep 8, 2012
Please allow me to ask you a question.

Are you "in Christ"?

IF the answer is YES,

How did you get "In Christ"?


Nova

Caddo Mills, TX

#13 Oct 1, 2012
3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.--- Rm 6:4
Nova

Caddo Mills, TX

#14 Oct 1, 2012
27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. - Gal. 3:27
JM B i b l e Helps

Caddo Mills, TX

#15 Oct 1, 2012
Tand A Drop-top

Caddo Mills, TX

#16 Nov 7, 2012
One might miss the most important of all lessons by focusing on the actions of some of the Baptist Church members who evicted two gentlemen who just asked a bible question in a bible class.

This is something which needs to be discussed instead of ignoring the obvious.

It seems the offense was asking if the preacher (teacher) would teach what Peter told those in (Acts 2:38).

38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins,

The class what studying in (Acts 2:38) so it was not a distraction by asking the question.

The teacher seemed to teach (Acts 2:38) without mentioning "Baptism".

When baptism is mentioned in the text.

Question - Does the bible teach immersion in water (baptism) is a part of the gospel which saves?

(Mark 16:15;16)

15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved

1....preach the gospel...

2....He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved...

The answer to the question is YES, baptism is a part of the gospel which saves according to (Mark 16:15,16).

Have you ever asked yourself how the eunuch knew about water immersion? The text just says Philip taught him Jesus. To teach Jesus one must teach baptism.(Acts 8:38,39).

35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.

Without baptism one cannot get to heaven.

(Jn 3:3-5)

3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?

5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:(Phil. 2:5)

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Tand A Drop-top

Caddo Mills, TX

#17 Nov 7, 2012
One might miss the most important of all lessons by focussing on the actions of some of the Baptist Church members who evicted two gentlemen who just asked a bible question in a bible class.

This is something which needs to be discussed instead of ignoring the obvious.

It seems the offense was asking if the preacher (teacher) would teach what Peter told those in (Acts 2:38).

38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins,

The class what studying in (Acts 2:38) so it was not a distraction by asking the question.

The teacher seemed to teach (Acts 2:38) without mentioning "Baptism".

When baptism is mentioned in the text.

Question - Does the bible teach immersion in water (baptism) is a part of the gospel which saves?

(Mark 16:15;16)

15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved

1....preach the gospel...

2....He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved...

The answer to the question is YES, baptism is a part of the gospel which saves according to (Mark 16:15,16).

Have you ever asked yourself how the eunuch knew abouv water immersion? THe text just saysd Philip taught him Jesus. To teach Jesus one must teach baptism.(Acts 8:38,39).

35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.

Without baptism one cannot get to heaven.

(Jn 3:3-5)

3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?

5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:(Phil. 2:5)

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A Disciple

Leonard, TX

#18 Nov 28, 2012
Many people think they should be able to believe and teach whatever doctrine they desire.

9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.(Mt. 15:9)

4 By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh.(Heb.11:4)

The word of God tells us why we must be obedient to the will of God.

4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.(1Jn 3:4).

12 Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.(Gen.4:5,6)(Heb 11:4)(1Jn 3:12).

If the Bible taught we were free to teach any doctrine we wanted I would have no problem with this idea (2Jn 9)(Jn 14:15,21)(Jn 15:10,14)(1Tim. 6:3).

17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.(Rom. 16:17,18).

(Jn 15:14) says one cannot have a relationship with Christ (GOD) while disobeying His commands.

There is one gospel (Eph. 4:4,5).

There is one book (Rev. 1:11).

Each congregation was to receive the information in that one book (1Cor.1:10)(1Cor.4:17)(Rev.1:1 1)(Phil.3:16-19).

Each congregation was not free to teach any other doctrine (Gal. 1:6-9)(2Thess.1:7-9).

6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

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A Disciple

Leonard, TX

#19 Nov 28, 2012
Friends, this information has been posted b/c we love your souls.

It is not posted to upset anyone (though it may).

It is not posted to win an argument.

I admit this is a subject which will provoke many people. The very first post is no doubt posted to get your attention, but it is not posted to anger you. It was posted to get you thinking and "ASKING QUESTIONS".

You may get angry, but I pray you will study your bible and see if the information posted on this thread (and others) is correct or incorrect according to the New Testament.

I have been told a boxer must not get in the ring while he is angry. Anger is the boxers enemy. He cannot properly think and react as a professional while being in the grasp of anger.

Being angry might motivate sone to do something but your actions must be measured, especially if you claim to be a Christian. The Lord looks down upon us all and He will judge (Jn 12:48)(Phil. 2:5).

I suggest you take the info from the Lord and apply it to this topic (Jn 5:39)(Phil. 2:5).

1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world....6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.(1Jn 4:1-6)

11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.(Acts 17:11)

39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.(Jn 5:39)

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Which brings us back to (Mark 16:15,16).

1. Belief + Baptism (in water)= Saved

OR

2. Belief = Saved + Be Baptized (Later on)

Keeping (Gal. 1:6-9) in mind, which does the church you are a part of teach?

#1 or #2

Please remember the Bible is our guide alone (2Peter 1:3)(1Peter 4:11)(Jude 3)(Jn 16:13).

If you go to any other creed-book for an answer you are teaching another gospel which is condemned.

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A Disciple

Leonard, TX

#20 Nov 28, 2012

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