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Proposed 'Emily's Law' would allow juveniles as young as 10 to be certified as adults in violent ...

There are 24 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Feb 10, 2011, titled Proposed 'Emily's Law' would allow juveniles as young as 10 to be certified as adults in violent .... In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Not quite ready for prime time. But progress, nonetheless. With an assessment along those lines, Travis Johnson seemed heartened Thursday about proposed legislation that would lower the age at which teens committing certain violent crimes in Minnesota could be prosecuted as adults.

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anonymous

Saint Paul, MN

#1 Feb 11, 2011
It is hard to imagine the pain and anquish the Johnson's have gone through. Their loss is something no parent should have to endure. That said, when you lower the age in which a juvenile can be tried as an adult to 10 years of age, that is equally as disturbing. I am a staunch advocate that the law remains at 14 years. Society may have visually turned our youth into mini-adults by exposing and portraying them as such, but in their brains they are still very much a ten, eleven, or twelve year old child.

"Gruenhagen said society is headed in the wrong direction, with heinous crimes seemingly occurring more frequently against young victims". Then I suggest efforts be made to discover the solution as to why, instread of waiting for the end result and throwing away the key on ten year olds.
lol

Osceola, WI

#2 Feb 11, 2011
This is another way to ruin a 10 year old. This is pure stupidity. First we must put truth and justice back in the just us system. Truth honor integrity.
You must go to another counrty to get justice.
Lets get tuff on children they are EASY PREY. They can get confessions. They are easy to fool just like the GOP. These are laws pushed by the anti christ party. What is next? Three days out of diapers charged as an adult.
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lol

Osceola, WI

#4 Feb 11, 2011
Child haters will support this . They hate our future. If this was law thirty years ago. America would not have any spoiled rich kids called the GOP. They would all be lifers. We should send our children to Cuba next. THere must be alist posted of the child haters that support this. A predator list. If anyone has a list of the predators that support this let me know. I will put us child legilative predator site. Recall them all.
Tom

Saint Paul, MN

#5 Feb 11, 2011
lol wrote:
This si so officers can search little little children just out of diapers. How sick can you get? No wonder all cops smell like depends.
Its obvious you are part of the problem in society not the resolution.

Go slither back under your rock.
yeahh

Minneapolis, MN

#6 Feb 11, 2011
when these kids kill your family members, you wont be so against it.
lol

Osceola, WI

#7 Feb 11, 2011
Tom wrote:
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Its obvious you are part of the problem in society not the resolution.
Go slither back under your rock.
Leave our children alone. Go after adult criminals. Go after public corruption and corporate crime. It would not be a fast easy turn over of cash as with kids and the poor. It would help society and bring in trillions more. Just todays police are to big of cowards to address public corruption or corporate crime. They are trained to lie and extort. It is hard to fool adults sophisticated criminals.
lol

Osceola, WI

#8 Feb 11, 2011
yeahh wrote:
when these kids kill your family members, you wont be so against it.
People do change. They change fast at that age. 90% of crime is circumstances. The other 10% are under the double standard policies. Like king george` war crimes. Lets put him in adult courts.
LBJ

Minneapolis, MN

#9 Feb 11, 2011
10 seems a little young, but I agree that there are children and cases where the kids get off too leniently if convicted as a child offender. I'm just not convinced that anyone who is a murderer at age 12, 13 or 14 (other than maybe in retribution for abuse) is going to end up being a contributing member of society no matter what kind of treatment they get.
Keep it simple

Minneapolis, MN

#10 Feb 11, 2011
lol wrote:
This si so officers can search little little children just out of diapers. How sick can you get? No wonder all cops smell like depends.
Why do you keep the Cop hating going in your own mind. Don't you get it yet? Everyone on these threads thinks that you are a JOKE. You rant and rave call people names. Why do you think everyone laughs at you? Same thing over and over, "Piglet" "Groin Searcher" "Why do you molest" I laugh at all your endevors at trying to spell. LMAO
STRIB

Saint Paul, MN

#11 Feb 11, 2011
PLEASE DO SOMETHING ABOUT POSTERS WHO VIOLATE YOUR CONDITIONS OF USE... SOMETHING SMALL INSTEAD OF INCARCERATING 10-YEAR-OLDS AS ADULTS.
STRIB and twincities

Saint Paul, MN

#12 Feb 11, 2011
(Sorry... they carry the same copy. Just figured it was the same source.)
lol

Osceola, WI

#13 Feb 11, 2011
Keep it simple wrote:
<quoted text> Why do you keep the Cop hating going in your own mind. Don't you get it yet? Everyone on these threads thinks that you are a JOKE. You rant and rave call people names. Why do you think everyone laughs at you? Same thing over and over, "Piglet" "Groin Searcher" "Why do you molest" I laugh at all your endevors at trying to spell. LMAO
I do not hate police offcers of the law. Something in the history books. Today we have lying revenue machines. Civil rights violaters. When murder is justified. Justice could never be served in civilized society or a democracy.
alawyer

United States

#14 Feb 11, 2011
What makes 14 the magical age? History, biology and common sense. Under American commonlaw, in place before there were juvenile courts, children between 7 and 14 were granted the capacity defense - prosecutors had a rebuttable presumption of incapacity that they needed to breach in court in order to win a guilty verdict. Nowadays, lazy, politically-mined prosecutors need only charge small children with crimes in order to win - they do not need to prove a mindset or level of understanding, but rather that the act itself would be the offense alleged. That's led to a dumbing down of crime and zero tolerance directed at children barely out of diapers - playground rough-housing has become assault and minor mistakes in judgement are prosecuted as the crimes of the century.

Homicide committed by children has occurred since Biblical times - what has changed is our response to it. While I feel sorry for the people whose child was killed, but they are doing her memory a disservice by demanding that children as young as ten be sent to adult facilities to be used as rape fodder, and that 10 and 11 year olds be held in prisons for decades, with no chance of ever leading a normal life. And make no mistake about it -- proscutors can barely get headlines when they go after 13 year olds in court -- there is an unsettling trend of trying little boys and girls as adults and parading them about in stripes and chains on perp walks.

The worst part of this story is that statistics do not show an increase in homicides involving very young children, and juvenile crimes are not increasing - just the opposite. You only need to go to the Department of Justice's website to see for yourself. What has increased are the volume of sensationalistic press reports and police and prosecutors using the press to increase their budgets. Fake Trend stories have Americans believing that kids commit more crimes than adults when in fact they account for less than 13 percent of violent crimes and that number is trending downward.

And make no mistake about it - these children will be sent to brutal, hellish facilities. If you don't believe me, follow the story of Blade Reed, an autistic boy in Indiana who spent his 15th birthday in the adult solitary confirnement unit at WABASH State Prison. Last month, a cruel and viscious prosecutor and judge joined forces in Indiana to send Paul Gingerich, who was barely 12, to an adult facility as well. That child was bullied and coerced by an older youth into participating in a murder. Even the state corrections officials balked at that one and sent the slender, slight little boy to a youth facility - although at 12 he is four or five years younger then the sex offenders in his dorm.

You cannot trust police, prosecutors and judges to do the right thing. Murders get headlines. Child Murderers get more headlines still, They will go after children for headlines. Protect the kids and protect yourselves. A child who emerges from a youth facility at age 25 is better able to cope versus a youngster with an adult criminal record who emerges broken and destroyed from and adult rape factory.
lol

Osceola, WI

#15 Feb 11, 2011
Keep it simple wrote:
<quoted text> Why do you keep the Cop hating going in your own mind. Don't you get it yet? Everyone on these threads thinks that you are a JOKE. You rant and rave call people names. Why do you think everyone laughs at you? Same thing over and over, "Piglet" "Groin Searcher" "Why do you molest" I laugh at all your endevors at trying to spell. LMAO
Why does your group attack children. What have children done to you or is it what have you done with our children. I support children not the attackers. That is because I fear not hide behind God. 10 years old today. Whats next diapers? This is sick extremist afraid of what. Unstable people should not be elected or in position of public trust.
Hoarf

Minneapolis, MN

#16 Feb 11, 2011
lol wrote:
<quoted text>I do not hate police offcers of the law. Something in the history books. Today we have lying revenue machines. Civil rights violaters. When murder is justified. Justice could never be served in civilized society or a democracy.
Dude, put the bong down and slowly step away from the computer. Put on some Floyd and mellow out or something.
lol

Osceola, WI

#17 Feb 11, 2011
Hoarf wrote:
<quoted text>
Dude, put the bong down and slowly step away from the computer. Put on some Floyd and mellow out or something.
Get off your knees officer. The world looks different up here. We see reality. Your not really that out of touch with reallity are you. We did go to the moon and Reagon is no longer selling drugs.
Hoarf

Minneapolis, MN

#18 Feb 11, 2011
alawyer wrote:
If you don't believe me, follow the story of Blade Reed, an autistic boy in Indiana who spent his 15th birthday in the adult solitary confirnement unit at WABASH State Prison.
Ok - we'll follow the story of little misunderstood Blade Reed, a young boy who went with his brother to steal some beer from a 70-something year old man. When he wouldn't comply, his brother SHOT HIM IN THE FREAKIN' HEAD. When his wife came out to help her dying husband they decided to put a bullet in her stomach (just for kicks, I guess). Then, his brother told poor little Blade to get rid of the wife because she was a witness. What does our little angel do? HE TAKES A KITCHEN KNIFE AND SAWS HER NECK OPEN LIKE A PEZ DISPENSER.

And you want to discuss whether or not poor little Blade had a happy birthday?
Keep it simple

Minneapolis, MN

#19 Feb 11, 2011
lol wrote:
<quoted text>Why does your group attack children. What have children done to you or is it what have you done with our children. I support children not the attackers. That is because I fear not hide behind God. 10 years old today. Whats next diapers? This is sick extremist afraid of what. Unstable people should not be elected or in position of public trust.
I don't attack children. You however are fixsated on it. You still don't get it. Your mind is so twisted that your think you make sense to the general public. You just come off looking like the fool over and over again. By the way if anyone had touched my children the way this two year old was asulted and the killed by a thirteen your old, I would still be sitting in prison. I would also not felt annything for the thirteen year old that wouldn't be walking around anymore.
Keep it simple

Minneapolis, MN

#20 Feb 11, 2011
lol wrote:
<quoted text>Get off your knees officer. The world looks different up here. We see reality. Your not really that out of touch with reallity are you. We did go to the moon and Reagon is no longer selling drugs.
LOOK DUDE you will never make a point to anyone that matters. Your name calling and attempted put downs classifiy you with a child's mind set. Grow up act like an adult. Quit trying to make people believe you with out hard core facts. If you can't back up what you say with facts you will forever come off looking like an idot. Is that what you want? If not start with the person in the mirror.
Tchotchke

Henning, MN

#21 Feb 11, 2011
This is just disgusting. Where are the parents? It saddens me that it has to come down to this, but my feeling is that when someone does something, they pay the consequences of those actions and wear their big boy panties (or big girl panties) when they face those consequences.

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