Novato developer pleased with public ...

Novato developer pleased with public reception of Fireman's Fun...

There are 28 comments on the Marin Independent Journal story from Sep 17, 2009, titled Novato developer pleased with public reception of Fireman's Fun.... In it, Marin Independent Journal reports that:

The developer who wants to transform the Fireman's Fund Insurance campus on Novato's north side into a sprawling ultra-green multiuse complex with a luxury hotel, retail shops and residential units said he was surprised by the positive vibes he has gathered from Novato residents.

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Oh Well

Mill Valley, CA

#21 Sep 18, 2009
Build it. Novato has already grown out of the small town "charm". We are at the point where we are broke and can't pay for services.
toomuch

AOL

#22 Sep 18, 2009
The developer promises innovative, sustainable, green ideas, but fails to show any example of a similar development that has successfully accomplished his pie-in-the-sky concepts.

Mr. Chamberlain tell the community that these projects are throughout Europe, but exactly where they are located remains a well kept secret.

Will the Novato powers-that-be suddenly develop a case of amnesia that will allow them to forget that massive Novato eyesore, the Millworks(aka Millstone)?

This recent addition to Novato's skyline must be in the top ten asinine architectural blunders currently found in the Western United States?

Now comes a development that will DOUBLE the amount of the massive structures currently located on the Fireman's Fund site. The "Commons" will be the Millworks on steroids!

Yes, the City of Novato desperately needs tax revenue...but at what price?

Suggestion: Go back to the drawing board and cut the density and mass, at least in half. Then figure out a way to effectively deal with all that additional traffic.
Stop the growth NOW

Los Gatos, CA

#23 Sep 18, 2009
All these reports lately about permanent water shortages in Novato because of Sonoma's pulling the plug .... you'd think Novato would stop thinking about growing on this basis alone.

When I moved here 10 years ago - there was some (not alot) of charm. Now there is nothing.
hairshirt

San Francisco, CA

#24 Sep 18, 2009
Day Hiker wrote:
And Hairshirt, we can't manufacture water, in case you hadn't noticed.
By that line of logic, no one should build anything anywhere in California, ever.

But point taken, there should be a plan for Marin's water supply (maybe desal, maybe more graywater recycling, maybe, shock horror, taller dams on our reservoirs) anyway, regardless of whether this project moves forward. We don't really try very hard to conserve water judging by the acres of green lawns here.

If there is true demand for this type of development and we turn it down, it'll just end up in Petaluma and we will get the 101 traffic anyway but without the tax receipts. It's naive to think we can preserve Novato as it is today with no changes and no growth, especially with our location at the intersection of two major highways only 30 minutes north of San Francisco.

Since: Feb 08

Hana, HI

#25 Sep 18, 2009
hairshirt wrote:
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By that line of logic, no one should build anything anywhere in California, ever.
But point taken, there should be a plan for Marin's water supply (maybe desal, maybe more graywater recycling, maybe, shock horror, taller dams on our reservoirs) anyway, regardless of whether this project moves forward. We don't really try very hard to conserve water judging by the acres of green lawns here.
If there is true demand for this type of development and we turn it down, it'll just end up in Petaluma and we will get the 101 traffic anyway but without the tax receipts. It's naive to think we can preserve Novato as it is today with no changes and no growth, especially with our location at the intersection of two major highways only 30 minutes north of San Francisco.
Novato gets it' water from Sonoma county, not Marin.
And only 30 minutes north of San Francisco ? Cal Native claims it is two and a half hours by car each way. Who is right ?

Since: Jul 08

Central Marin

#26 Sep 18, 2009
Pulipaca wrote:
<quoted text>Novato gets it' water from Sonoma county, not Marin.
And only 30 minutes north of San Francisco ? Cal Native claims it is two and a half hours by car each way. Who is right ?
I have read a lot of posts from Cal Native about commuting, but I don't ever recall him saying it was 2 1/2 hours. I don't suppose you could provide a link to that?

With no traffic, the driove from the GGB to Novato is about 30 minutes depending on where you are going in Novato. In bad traffic it could easily take over an hour. Getting through the Narrows is another story.

The backup is mostly north of San Rafael these days. 2 1/2 hours from SF to Novato would have to be an extraordinary bad day with rainy weather and perhaps with multiple accidents. I am not saying it doesn't happen, just not to often thankfully.

I recently had to drive to Sacramento on a Friday afternoon and hit the worst traffic imaginable on Hwy 37 and then again on I-80 through Vacaville and Fairfield. It took me three hours to drive from San Rafael to Davis (about 70 miles).
BUDDY BOY

Novato, CA

#27 Sep 18, 2009
Marin Native wrote:
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I recently had to drive to Sacramento on a Friday afternoon and hit the worst traffic imaginable on Hwy 37 and then again on I-80 through Vacaville and Fairfield. It took me three hours to drive from San Rafael to Davis (about 70 miles).
You ever stop your car on the upper deck of the Richmond Bridge on a beautiful summer afternoon and take a stroll around? I have. A couple of weeks back traffic was stopped completely due to a car on fire up ahead. Sometimes, of course rarely, traffic jams can be pretty neat...
Burned by fishwick

Ross, CA

#28 May 14, 2010
Weary of It all wrote:
SchoenbAUM: Did you or anyone else ever contact Dennis Fishwick who has lawsuit against SMART ?
Can the pols go ahead with SMART TOD Station Area Planning and Development before the lawsuit is settled?
Does anyone know anything about this ?
Don't believe anything Fishhead says. He's a user and a bum

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