Water tests show Orland aquifer 'prolific'

Full story: Chico Enterprise-Record

The well test results for a proposed water bottling plant in Orland were released Wednesday, giving the go-ahead for Crystal Geyser Water Co.
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sally

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Sep 24, 2009
 
"We know the groundwater resources are ample. If they weren't, we wouldn't have come," Strandberg said.
Nice to know you reserved judgment till all the information was in. People "knew" the earth was flat, back in the day, cause they had decided it was so.
Ron Acevedo

Chico, CA

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Sep 24, 2009
 
The engineering company deals in facts. There is ample water. The only thing left to be determined is what excuse will be used next to stop the project?
stephens1949

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Sep 24, 2009
 
Here there goes along with the approval a great deal of shame for being a community that is in a way contributing to the problem of polluting our whole world with plastic bottles some of them to my dissatisfaction will not get recycled ending up out in the middle of the pacific with Orland Karma all over it. Orland will be a lot like a woman who walks around saying she is only a little bit pregnant. Every bit matters and enabling this company to proceed is enabling people all over to shrug their personal responsibility in protecting traditional water drinking sources. These jobs are not worth the loss of ones integrity. With this industry comes a carbon foot print that could mean even more problems, just the trucking smoke alone.
Annoyed

Chico, CA

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Sep 24, 2009
 
If anyone else wants water from us they, after review and approval, have to pay set fees.

Right now Crystal is bringing water to their plant from "undisclosed" sources in tankers. Now they want to get off "on-the-cheap" by tapping into our farm and home water supply.

I say: Let them buy water from us on a short-term contract and don't get tied up in any long range planning until we see how our own water shortage fares over the next several years. Don't let them panic everyone into a hasty decision.
concerned citizen

Chico, CA

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Sep 24, 2009
 
I don't recall any opposition to Cal Water drilling wells to increase Chico's water supply. I guess it's more politically acceptable for a bunch of homeowners to waste water on lawns than it is for a beverage company to bottle and ship the stuff.
Ron Acevedo

Chico, CA

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Sep 24, 2009
 
Thankyou Stephen1949

"With this industry comes a carbon foot print that could mean even more problems, just the trucking smoke alone"

Imagine truck smoke along I5!!! Undoubtedly huge billowing clouds so thick that it will kill every living thing within 25 miles!

Gee couldn't you invent something just a little more tangible than that?

I'm guessing Stephen, correct me if I'm wrong, but you don't need one of those 25 full time jobs being offered by a relatively clean industry. Or should we all cultivat marijuana for a living?
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

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Sep 24, 2009
 
I think Crystal should pump it's water out of Cohassett or Chico or wherever this Ron Acevedo lives, it will be fun watching Ron doing the hat dance then.
Ron Acevedo

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Sep 24, 2009
 
Oh Grandpa you seem to have soiled yourself as I see you are doing the PP dance.

I know it would be too much to expect you to read the facts or respect the facts. The engineering report is in the article. This operation will not be detrimental to water levels but being anti business of any kind you will blather on anyway.
What a pathetic individual you must be. Perhaps a shutin?
GRANDPA NICOLAI

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Sep 24, 2009
 
Ron Acevedo wrote:
Oh Grandpa you seem to have soiled yourself as I see you are doing the PP dance.
I know it would be too much to expect you to read the facts or respect the facts. The engineering report is in the article. This operation will not be detrimental to water levels but being anti business of any kind you will blather on anyway.
What a pathetic individual you must be. Perhaps a shutin?
RON: It is easy to be pro business in Orland when you don't live there isn't it?

You believe the engineering reports?

I will tell you some facts. They did same type of reports where we live prior

to allowing new building tracts, and guess what?

Several of us had to lower our wells some 20 feet and another well went dry.

Tu crees cualquier cosa que tu jeffes te dicen, verdad?
stephens1949

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Sep 24, 2009
 
Ron Acevedo wrote:
Oh Grandpa you seem to have soiled yourself as I see you are doing the PP dance.
I know it would be too much to expect you to read the facts or respect the facts. The engineering report is in the article. This operation will not be detrimental to water levels but being anti business of any kind you will blather on anyway.
What a pathetic individual you must be. Perhaps a shutin?
Oh Ronnie you are so cynical tonight, is it your hemorrhoids? A favirable water report could'nt that be because it was paid for by the water company wanting the water? I sure wouldn't want to be the country family living next to a water bottler where 20 to 50 vehicles were going to come and go every day. That can not help their property values, will they see any reduction in taxes? Probably not.
Steve

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Sep 24, 2009
 
Everybody Knows wrote:
How about the nearby residents get free stock in the company as a result of them raping their natural resources.
Thought you were protesting at the G20 summit today?
Human being

Chico, CA

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Sep 24, 2009
 
Hind sight is 20/20.

Do we all need to suffer through water shortages in 30 years simply to supply today's greed?

Or we can take a stand...
Ron Acevedo

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Sep 24, 2009
 
What to believe? Engineering reports generated from factuial information or Grandpa and his overloaded Depends?

Think I'll stick to somebody with no axe to grind and uses science to your ancedotal, flat earth society rhetoric Grandpa.

Sorry I can't oblige you in your dementia grandpa but this is a reputable engineering firm and you....you are a know nothing idealogue. Yeah I can speak Spanish and Mandarin as well. So what?

This bottling opportunity will creat 25 full time year around jobs. Grandpa will create full time year around blather.
Ron Acevedo

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Sep 24, 2009
 
We are talking about pumping the same amount of water as 160 acres of orchard. This is spit compared to the amount of acreage planted every year. Where are you whiners when another orchard is planted? instead of a dozen part time illegals this company will supply 25 full time year around jobs to a community that needs them.
Follow the science of this engineering company or follow ignorance, whatever you are comfortable with.
Ron Avocado

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Sep 24, 2009
 
Ron Acevedo wrote:
We are talking about pumping the same amount of water as 160 acres of orchard. This is spit compared to the amount of acreage planted every year. Where are you whiners when another orchard is planted? instead of a dozen part time illegals this company will supply 25 full time year around jobs to a community that needs them.
Follow the science of this engineering company or follow ignorance, whatever you are comfortable with.
Was the scientist's model run against any range of statistically likely drought-conditions?

These are static models with regard to multi-decade-scale fluctuations.

What if there is a 10%-30% change in rainfall over the coming decades (which is miniscule compared to what is documented in the palynological, tree-ring and other data sets).

What if the site is approved based on data collected at one point in time, during one year, in a climate who's average never really exists?

What if a reasonably expected 10-15 years more of grought occur, and there is a legal argument between an approve plant with 25 jobs, and thousands of acres of ag land with associated prodice and jobs screwed?

Maybe...no Avocados?
Ron Avocado

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Sep 24, 2009
 
Just wondering..a simple question regarding reasonable interpretations of a data set.

Just wondering.
Ron Avocado

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Sep 24, 2009
 
What do you think,
Ron?
Ishi

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Sep 25, 2009
 
Ever heard of a tap water filter?
GRANDPA NICOLAI

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Sep 25, 2009
 
Ron Acevedo wrote:
What to believe? Engineering reports generated from factuial information or Grandpa and his overloaded Depends?
Think I'll stick to somebody with no axe to grind and uses science to your ancedotal, flat earth society rhetoric Grandpa.
Sorry I can't oblige you in your dementia grandpa but this is a reputable engineering firm and you....you are a know nothing idealogue. Yeah I can speak Spanish and Mandarin as well. So what?
This bottling opportunity will creat 25 full time year around jobs. Grandpa will create full time year around blather.
RONALDO:

What planet do you live on ?

You can get a reputable engineering firm to prove or disprove whatever you pay it to prove or disprove.

Just like you can get a reputable legal firm to acquit the worse of criminals.

But after all, this is Orland's water, so in reality, neither you nor I should have anything to say about it, I do not have a dog in this fight, do you?
Human being

Chico, CA

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Sep 25, 2009
 
It seems the thought of NOW comes into play in most peoples mind when the 25 jobs (much like the 150 jobs from Wal-Mart) is the main argument for pulling 'spit' out of our shared aquifer.

It is not just 'Orland's water’, it is all of our water; farmers, residences, businesses, Gee, even that absurd thing called NATURE needs water... the water under our feet is A SHARED RESOURCE NOT A COMMODITY. Has anyone seen the Pacific Gyre lately? Anyone know about gyre in the southern hemisphere now too?

Filter your water and buy a reusable container but leave our groundwater alone!! We have plenty, NOW...(and can we really trust the people doing research on this? their pockets are bigger today...)

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