Rattlesnake Island plans to be consid...

Rattlesnake Island plans to be considered

There are 31 comments on the Lake County Record-Bee story from May 11, 2010, titled Rattlesnake Island plans to be considered. In it, Lake County Record-Bee reports that:

After a five-year lull, the Lake County Planning Commission will consider Thursday whether to make a declaration allowing an Emeryville businessman to build a vacation home on Rattlesnake Island.

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Ugh

Kelseyville, CA

#1 May 12, 2010
Nady,me thinkum you know where to place the microphones you make
Philip Murphy

Kettleman City, CA

#2 May 12, 2010
Ugh wrote:
Nady,me thinkum you know where to place the microphones you make
no room there, as his head is occupying that space! Jim said that Mike Thompson was going to get the feds to buy the island for Elem, wonder why katie didn't mention that?
John Marx

Lucerne, CA

#4 May 12, 2010
Natives have been screwed. Look around at where there assigned land is, always the worst.

Too bad for the owner, but we owe the locals this respect -
it should not be built on.
Donna Christopher

Kelseyville, CA

#5 May 12, 2010
Thanks for the info AV - I had no idea folks from India wanted the island!
Philip Murphy

Keene, CA

#6 May 12, 2010
Adrian Vance wrote:
That island is about 50 acres and could support one Indian, hence it was never a settlement and no indication of habitation has ever been found on it.
The only artifacts found have been flint chips that were probably a result of Indians sharpening or making "Clovis point" style spear and arrow heads, but no arrow or spear heads have been found indicating the Indians there were itinerant hunters who killed and ate the few small animals on it and left.
The Indians were given several opportunities to buy the island, but refused every time. Now they want us to buy it for them. Good luck, Cochise.
The Indians want to put a casino on it, which is a stupid idea as it would not only be very expensive, but would need its own water and power plants, be very expensive to service and supply, require ferry access and certainly fail to become yet another Lake County eyesore. But, our elected class has a solid history of making bad decisions so good luck on this one.
the island is about 34 acres, and could support no Indians since there is no surface water there to use, that's why it was used for ceremonial purposes-hence it's importance to Elem. There is no plan to build a casino on it, the tribe would never go for that idea and they have land already that is better sutied for that IF they ever do build one.

if you research the land's title you'll see the Indians were ripped-off, maybe buying it for them would offset the fact that we stuck them on a reservation next to a giant superfund waste clean-up site.
private

United States

#9 May 12, 2010
Sorry Adrian, Mr. Nady is not a nice man and does not give good parties. I have personal experience. By the way, I know a guy from Berkeley named Warren who use to work for Nady. Is that you psycho kitty?
Philip Murphy

Kettleman City, CA

#10 May 12, 2010
Adrian Vance wrote:
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I am sure you are wrong about the acreage as well as everything else. The Brown brothers have talked about putting a casino on the island and they are our resident professional Indians. The tribes were offered the land at least once and for $80,000, if memory serves. They only reason they want it is that they think they can shame the BOS in buying it for them. That the entire state is broke is probably the only reason that will not happen. Our electeds are terminally stupid and I that I think you will agree.
What really upsets me about this is that the only way to preserve that island is to put it in private hands and let them make a personal reserve of it. I am sure those people would be very willing to cooperate with any research project. It the Elems had brains they would make Mr. Nady an honorary
chief. Rich people give better parties. Didn't you read "The Great Gatsby?"
I've met John Nady and spoken to him about his plans in some detail, and I know Jim Brown as well, I know Nady is not respected by his peers in the electronics biz and I know Jim is respected by just about everyone who knows him-even if we disagree with him on many things because we know his instincts are good. I know the island fairly well too, and also know that the BOS won't buy it (at best they'd write a letter of support), but MT might be able to pry the dough out of the BIA, BLM, or some other soucre-if he can that's fine with me.
If he can't then nady has to be careful about what he does out there, to me that would make it more touble than it was worth, wonder why he'd deal with the hassle when he could buy a nice island somewhere else.
Interesting

United States

#13 May 13, 2010
to say the least. So Phil you have spoken with Mr. Nady in some detail have you? So please tell what these plans consist of. Did you mean to say Nady is not respected by his competitors in the electronics biz? The Island is approx. 64 acres when water is low and less when it is up, Not 34 Phil. At least Adrian knows what he is talking about unlike yourself. You never cease to amaze me Phil. You can speak logical at times and at times your just sheer nonsense! Get the facts like you tell others to do before speaking, then maybe one will listen!
RWW

Antelope, CA

#14 May 13, 2010
this might be the biggest waste of community time, energy and money in a long time. The guy owns the land. Let him build on it. Anyone involved with Lake County planning and development shoudl be focusing on how to create jobs, revenue and tourism... not debating BS politics that effect a few individuals.

Since: Nov 08

Watsonville, CA

#15 May 13, 2010
RWW wrote:
this might be the biggest waste of community time, energy and money in a long time. The guy owns the land. Let him build on it. Anyone involved with Lake County planning and development shoudl be focusing on how to create jobs, revenue and tourism... not debating **** politics that effect a few individuals.
Exactly right, some guy comes from out-of-town, buys an island nobody wanted for 150 years, is going to build two small log cabins on it, disturb nothing, keep it up so the Indians, who trash everything they own, start wailing and the BOS listens! Give us a break.
Philip Murphy

Kettleman City, CA

#16 May 13, 2010
Interesting wrote:
to say the least. So Phil you have spoken with Mr. Nady in some detail have you? So please tell what these plans consist of. Did you mean to say Nady is not respected by his competitors in the electronics biz? The Island is approx. 64 acres when water is low and less when it is up, Not 34 Phil. At least Adrian knows what he is talking about unlike yourself. You never cease to amaze me Phil. You can speak logical at times and at times your just sheer nonsense! Get the facts like you tell others to do before speaking, then maybe one will listen!
A: the island isn't anywhere near 64 acres, and I deal with that unit of measure every day plus I sailed around the island recently-I know how big it is.
B: nady is planning a small home, cabin, seperate restroom, some pathways and a water and
electricity system-it's all in the public data befoe the PC.
C: my brother knows nady from the business world, what he says about him confirms what I felt when I talked to him face-to-face, he's not the nicest guy you'd want to meet and not what you'd call an ideal neighbor.
samiam

Kelseyville, CA

#17 May 13, 2010
Philip Murphy wrote:
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A: the island isn't anywhere near 64 acres, and I deal with that unit of measure every day plus I sailed around the island recently-I know how big it is.
B: nady is planning a small home, cabin, seperate restroom, some pathways and a water and
electricity system-it's all in the public data befoe the PC.
C: my brother knows nady from the business world, what he says about him confirms what I felt when I talked to him face-to-face, he's not the nicest guy you'd want to meet and not what you'd call an ideal neighbor.
If he's not an ideal neighbor it seems like the island would be a good place for him.
As for what is best for the island all you have to do is go see the "Colony" to have your answer to that question.
private

United States

#18 May 13, 2010
When nady hires guitarists to test his guitar equiptment he only lets them have two strings on the guitar because he doesn't want them to enjoy their work.
samiam

Kelseyville, CA

#19 May 13, 2010
private wrote:
When nady hires guitarists to test his guitar equiptment he only lets them have two strings on the guitar because he doesn't want them to enjoy their work.
If this is true that makes this guy a bigger jerk than Vancypants.

Since: Nov 08

Watsonville, CA

#20 May 13, 2010
samiam wrote:
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If this is true that makes this guy a bigger jerk than Vancypants.
Now Lowell, you can surely do better than that. Are ashamed to show your name here? Your immature, sophomoric and moronic attempts at humor are truly worthy and telling of one who sells real estate all day, every day and in every way.

Since: Nov 08

Watsonville, CA

#21 May 13, 2010
Philip Murphy wrote:
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A: the island isn't anywhere near 64 acres, and I deal with that unit of measure every day plus I sailed around the island recently-I know how big it is.
B: nady is planning a small home, cabin, seperate restroom, some pathways and a water and
electricity system-it's all in the public data befoe the PC.
C: my brother knows nady from the business world, what he says about him confirms what I felt when I talked to him face-to-face, he's not the nicest guy you'd want to meet and not what you'd call an ideal neighbor.
Unless your sailboat was equipped with a very high grade GPS unit that you knew how to use, both doubtful, or you had a USGS map and knew how to analyze it, again doubtful, you have no idea the area of the island in acres.

According to the Record Bee, the Nadys are planning two log cabins, one with three bedrooms and one with two for the caretaker. Paths are there from previous owners. The solar-electric system is in place as you should have seen from your alleged sailboat, which is now in doubt as you did not mention it. Another lie, Phil?

That your brother delivers soda and snacks to the vending machines at Nady, Inc. means nothing. The only time he would have any contact with Mr. Nady would be if he screwed up, but then that probably happens often and if your brother is as obnoxious as you, Phil, then we can all understand and sympathize with Mr. Nady.

And again, as has been pointed out: Where you do not like Mr. Nady, after one conversation in which it clearly appears you were obnoxious, you should be glad he wants to be on an island and not buying everything around you, planting GM seeds from Monsanto and giving wonderful parties to which you are not invited and his guests come over and pee on your pears. Be careful Phil; Mr. Nady is so successful he could make that happen just for laughs.
private

United States

#22 May 13, 2010
Adrian, Have you been invited to one of his parties. How much did he pay you to wear that skirt. Yeah he does a lot of things for a laugh. at everyone else's expense. So you pretty much got it right. "Peeing on pears" at his parties? You don't know how close to the truth you've come
Interesting

United States

#23 May 13, 2010
Thanks Adrian, I know for fact Phil is talking out his ass. And private, I have been to many of Johns parties as you call them. They are more like fundraisers for childrens hospital, and might I add they are terrific! Now tell me, just what does this all have to do with this article or the Island?
Phil, I knew you were lying about your talk with John and him telling you about his plans in some detail as you so put it. John has been very quiet about his plans and only speaks to those necessary to speak to or with. Glad you took the opportunity to sail around the Island, great view isn't it, now that John has had all the trees maintained and the grounds cleaned up! Also glad you were able to obtain all your info from the county or news reports. Solar is in place and working just fine!
I will agree with you that John can at times be a real jerk, just like yourself on the occassions I have to read your blogs! If this is how you judge a person through word of mouth or one face to face encounter I'm sure he wouldn't want you as a neighbor. He minds his own business, enjoys his stay here at the lake with his family and friends and HIS Island! Just like every other property owner or home owner enjoys theirs. Now why don't you stick to what you do know, whatever that may be!
private

United States

#24 May 13, 2010
Interesting, Ha Ha Guess you went to the wrong parties. John like the rest of us have to take resposibility for everything we have done. Jerks get treated like Jerks.
samiam

Kelseyville, CA

#25 May 13, 2010
Adrian Vance wrote:
<quoted text>
Now Lowell, you can surely do better than that. Are ashamed to show your name here? Your immature, sophomoric and moronic attempts at humor are truly worthy and telling of one who sells real estate all day, every day and in every way.
Look, now I'm over here Vancypants.

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