Unions

Wellston, OH

#14188 Nov 24, 2012
If the unions are the way to go, then why don't unions start their own companies?
Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#14189 Nov 24, 2012
Save Yourself wrote:
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It's almost as if America isn't buying the crap you've been selling. Let's look to the last election for answers. What you fail to mention is the fact that people like you have had a monopoly on this country for decades and look what it got us. Your kind gleefully jammed your religious garbage into our public schools and ignored the fact that the founders of this country made it very clear that one religion should not rule this nation. Really, when I walk out to my car at night, I'm not looking over my shoulder for gay marriage or abortion or Commies. I'm looking for the nutball with the high capacity Christian sponsored NRA gun in his hand.
Just 4 questions....Would you please identify who has had a monopoly for decades?
Also ID who is jamming religious garbage into schools & which schools?
The 'founders' made sure that the government would not endoese any religion. They did NOT ban religion.
What's a 'high capacity Christian'?
Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#14190 Nov 24, 2012
Sry for the typo...I meant 'endorse'
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#14191 Nov 24, 2012
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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You never did tell us how your old man likes his union pension.
He loves it. He's been collecting for nearly 20 years. Now all those younger bricklayers are footing the bill because all the funds he contributed to it have been long gone for years now.
Save Yourself

Canton, OH

#14192 Nov 24, 2012
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>Just 4 questions....Would you please identify who has had a monopoly for decades?
Also ID who is jamming religious garbage into schools & which schools?
The 'founders' made sure that the government would not endoese any religion. They did NOT ban religion.
What's a 'high capacity Christian'?
Christian Conservatives, the most wealthy and numerous voting force in our nation have had a monopoly on this country for decades. Rightwing Christian conservatives made numerous attempts to force their personal religious beliefs into taxpayers public schools for many years. Since this isn't obvious to you, allow me to be the first to welcome you to America.

A "high capacity Christian", in this instance, is what is known as a fragment of a sentence. Perhaps if your lazy foodstamp riding @ss would have finished the entire sentence...
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#14193 Nov 24, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
He loves it. He's been collecting for nearly 20 years. Now all those younger bricklayers are footing the bill because all the funds he contributed to it have been long gone for years now.
Sounds like that union really screwed him.
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#14194 Nov 24, 2012
Save Yourself wrote:
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Christian Conservatives, the most wealthy and numerous voting force in our nation have had a monopoly on this country for decades. Rightwing Christian conservatives made numerous attempts to force their personal religious beliefs into taxpayers public schools for many years. Since this isn't obvious to you, allow me to be the first to welcome you to America.
A "high capacity Christian", in this instance, is what is known as a fragment of a sentence. Perhaps if your lazy foodstamp riding @ss would have finished the entire sentence...
Pops doesn't even understand his own posts.
Loren Eberly

Sunbury, OH

#14195 Nov 24, 2012
Wal-Mart Employees Strike:

USA Labor Law demands 50% of every employer’s employees that cannot educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. With money derived from wages (union contract) investment and independent business profit. Form or join a labor union. And get a contract with their employer. Demanding their employer comply with USA Labor Law, The Constitution and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demanding every Stockholder, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

President, Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members. Hold Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund Illegal drug users and Illegal Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

Hold Venders accountable to collect sales tax without compensation. On the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. That gets only product or service.

Needed to measure and maintain the strength and growth of this UNAFFORDABLE economy and distribute money Human Beings cannot digest, burn in internal combustion engines, or burn to heat and cool their American Dream. Into OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders portfolios.

Defying USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and Realities demands Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE; and created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old. America’s grandchildren’s children cannot pay this debt in a hundred million years.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#14196 Nov 24, 2012
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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Sounds like that union really screwed him.
Not him, but the guys that are working under that union now.
media exploitation

West Union, OH

#14197 Nov 24, 2012
"Che Reagan Christ"

I assume you realize that November is almost over and nothing has happened. You said you didn't know why you were responding to this forum because Nibiru was about to come close to Earth.

Could you be a troll?

How much longer do we have before Nibiru comes?

Waiting..........
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#14198 Nov 24, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
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If they were skilled workers, they wouldn't need unions.
If you were a Teamster you'd earn more money, have better benefits, and do less bitchin.

woof
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#14199 Nov 24, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
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Not him, but the guys that are working under that union now.
So what you're claiming is that every single other pensioner bricklayer outlived the actuarial tables?

And Raj down at the seven eleven...have you asked him if he'd like his customers to be thrown off of the food stamp program?

You're so full of sh!t its coming out of your ears.

woof
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#14200 Nov 24, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
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The job of a CEO is to make the company the most profit that he or she can. That's their only concern. Companies did not open up to give people jobs. Companies open up to produce products and services for consumers. That's it.
The corporate form is a legal construct, approved by a formalized society, that operates within the bounds of that construct.

If what you claim is true, then you would have no trouble with a lead smelting facility placed directly adjacent to your home, with absolutely no regulatory system to address health hazards.

woof
Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#14201 Nov 24, 2012
Save Yourself wrote:
<quoted text>
Christian Conservatives, the most wealthy and numerous voting force in our nation have had a monopoly on this country for decades. Rightwing Christian conservatives made numerous attempts to force their personal religious beliefs into taxpayers public schools for many years. Since this isn't obvious to you, allow me to be the first to welcome you to America.
A "high capacity Christian", in this instance, is what is known as a fragment of a sentence. Perhaps if your lazy foodstamp riding @ss would have finished the entire sentence...
Since when does posing an inquiry (4 questions actually) warrant the attitude in your response?
Hasn't it been said that 'inquiring minds want to know'??
I showed interest in your post & give you another 90 words or so of 'fame' & you (& CHE) become abusive? What a yoyo!
IF you actually had a point based on some facts, you should have been somewhat flattered that someone asked for additional info. That may have been an opportunity to swing someone into your train of thought. Obviously not now.
And your accusation about me having a 'lazy food stamp riding @ss...' is totally baseless.
Your response has taught me to NOT give a diddley about what you may say in the future unless I see a change.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#14202 Nov 24, 2012
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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The corporate form is a legal construct, approved by a formalized society, that operates within the bounds of that construct.
If what you claim is true, then you would have no trouble with a lead smelting facility placed directly adjacent to your home, with absolutely no regulatory system to address health hazards.
woof
And how does this relate to the theory that corporations have some social obligation to provide good paying jobs?
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#14203 Nov 24, 2012
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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So what you're claiming is that every single other pensioner bricklayer outlived the actuarial tables?
And Raj down at the seven eleven...have you asked him if he'd like his customers to be thrown off of the food stamp program?
You're so full of sh!t its coming out of your ears.
woof
Why do you suppose Social Security is going broke? People take out much more than they put in. Who even offers pensions anymore? Pensions are a company killer.
Anonymous

Rossford, OH

#14204 Nov 24, 2012
Ohio's governor should be someone as stupid as the voters.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#14205 Nov 24, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
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And how does this relate to the theory that corporations have some social obligation to provide good paying jobs?
I did not make that statement.
They have obligations beyond profits alone.
Why is that concept so difficult to understand?

woof
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#14206 Nov 24, 2012
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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If you were a Teamster you'd earn more money, have better benefits, and do less bitchin.
woof
Those places closed shop years ago. The last recession finished off the few that were open.

When you run a business, you have to have backup money. Union shops didn't have any backup money because they poured everything into labor and benefits. Places like mine were able to barely survive because we didn't have a union telling my employer how to run his company.

I'd rather make less money and have continued employment than I would making better money and eventually have no job.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#14207 Nov 24, 2012
Anonymous wrote:
Ohio's governor should be someone as stupid as the voters.
The current one does seem to be less intelligent than the average voter, I agree.

woof

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