2005 Elmwood Park Metra crash blamed ...

2005 Elmwood Park Metra crash blamed on rail crossing at Grand ...

There are 7 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Jun 10, 2008, titled 2005 Elmwood Park Metra crash blamed on rail crossing at Grand .... In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

A 2005 crash that involved a Metra train and more than a dozen vehicles in Elmwood Park was attributed to the poorly designed rail crossing and heavy holiday traffic the day before Thanksgiving, federal ...

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Harry

Lake Zurich, IL

#1 Jun 10, 2008
"The NTSB did not blame motorists who ignored warning signs and stopped on the tracks in the Nov. 23 accident."

Because they think motorists are too stup*d to notice warning signs?
Matt Scholp

Bolingbrook, IL

#2 Jun 10, 2008
I am very sorry for the loss of these families and the pain that wthis has caused them. In saying that we can not continue to blame everyone else for what happens. Common sense dictates that we DO NOT stop on the train tracks. When we are driving and traffic has stopped and/or is slowing we should leave more room and WAIT until there is enough room to continue across the tracks. We must take responsibility for our actions right or wrong and not look for some one else to blame, everyone make mistakes that cost themselves, thier families and others pain. We must demonstrate to our children and other that we have learned from those mistakes and take ownership of them. We must show that we have intergrety and courage to admit our mistakes and continue. I would like to say again that I am very sorry for those involved as well as thier families, I can not imagine what this is like for them. GOD BLESS them and AMERICA.
Wrong Answer

Lake Zurich, IL

#3 Jun 11, 2008
The NTSB did not blame motorists who ignored warning signs and stopped on the tracks in the Nov. 23 accident.

WHAT??? WHAT???? If the motorists who ignored the warning signs, didn't ignore them, this would not have happened. Unbelievable! They were on the tracks! The train did decide to start driving on the street. Now some smarmy lawyer will latch onto this and the lawsuits will start flying. Lawsuits, we the taxpayers, will be paying for.
Wrong Answer

Lake Zurich, IL

#4 Jun 11, 2008
Matt Scholp wrote:
I am very sorry for the loss of these families and the pain that wthis has caused them. In saying that we can not continue to blame everyone else for what happens. Common sense dictates that we DO NOT stop on the train tracks. When we are driving and traffic has stopped and/or is slowing we should leave more room and WAIT until there is enough room to continue across the tracks. We must take responsibility for our actions right or wrong and not look for some one else to blame, everyone make mistakes that cost themselves, thier families and others pain. We must demonstrate to our children and other that we have learned from those mistakes and take ownership of them. We must show that we have intergrety and courage to admit our mistakes and continue. I would like to say again that I am very sorry for those involved as well as thier families, I can not imagine what this is like for them. GOD BLESS them and AMERICA.
No need to feel sorry for them. They were warned, they chose to ignore the warnings. You're right, everyone blames someone else when they should just own up to the results of their decisions. If people make bad decisions and suffer the consequences, that's just too bad. These were not innocent people. It is illegal to stop on train tracks. There is a fine. Obviously not high enough to repay the damages they created and the cost of the police, fire, and emergency crews. Oh yeah, one more thing. Do you think their insurance companies paid for their cars? If so, that came out of all the other policyholders' pockets, too.
Michael Sandow

United States

#5 Jun 11, 2008
It seems that the warning signs aren't enough. Why not post an Elmwood Park cop and issue expensice citations to motorists who stop on the tracks? It's obvious that they aren't thinking with their heads. Maybe a hit in the wallet will get closed to their brains.

Bonus: nice income source for local suburbs.

Has METRA considered filing suit for obstructing rail service?

Sheesh !!!
LuV

Mason, MI

#6 Jun 11, 2008
One of the sillier things about this is that a train running at 30MPH is still going to do damage to a car or, god forbid, a person on the tracks. Even with the extra few seconds of warning time, slowing down the trains has probably not made anyone much safer. It's just made the commute longer for the people riding them.

It may be an expensive solution, but it seems like the right thing to do here is to change the crossing itself. I don't really understand the point of pouring $ into other quick fixes.
a street cop

Boca Raton, FL

#7 Jun 11, 2008
Elevate the crossing to go over the tracks.

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