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Cartecay

Ellijay, GA

#1 Jul 2, 2011
I read a letter to the Editor in the TC, this week. It mentioned the job of Teacher Support Specialist and apparently, it's a pretty lucrative position. What the heck is it, though? I went to school here in Gilmer County and I don't recall having them back then. Or maybe, Mr. Freddie Keith's long wooden paddle might have qualified.....;)
geez

Talking Rock, GA

#2 Jul 3, 2011
Cartecay wrote:
I read a letter to the Editor in the TC, this week. It mentioned the job of Teacher Support Specialist and apparently, it's a pretty lucrative position. What the heck is it, though? I went to school here in Gilmer County and I don't recall having them back then. Or maybe, Mr. Freddie Keith's long wooden paddle might have qualified.....;)
I believe that is what we knew as Teacher Assistant back in our day. Coming from an educator family they were just the gopher and babysitter when teacher needed a potty break.

Not sure how many we have in system but complete waste of dollars for sure. Even my mother would tell you that! Heck I know at Mountain View one of those "Support Specialist" is for gym!! Really no joke for gym , but then maybe some are needed to hold up the lazy butt teachers!!

Anyone ever think that maybe schools can't buy paper cause they have some many support specialist that make lust for teachers to send home to parents to beg for reams of paper?
rapo77us

Ellijay, GA

#3 Jul 3, 2011
The Teacher Support Specialist (TSS) Program is designed to provide trained mentors with cognitive coaching skills for beginning teachers in the induction (first three years) phase of their careers. Teacher Support Specialists assist beginning teachers,teachers newly transferred to a school or grade level, teachers with PDPs, or teachers in need of additional support.
Complete training and internship year
Design action plan for yearly activity
Document mentoring activity
Attend professional learning seminars designed for skill enhancement
Submit TSS Mentoring Report
Cartecay

Ellijay, GA

#4 Jul 3, 2011
Thanks for the explanation, rapo77us. They're paid pretty handsomely for this service, aren't they? I heard just under $100k.
My mom, grandma and great grandma were all teachers and I don't think they had such a position in Gilmer County schools back in their day....
Retired Educator

Ellijay, GA

#5 Jul 4, 2011
A Teacher Support Specialist (TSS) is an add-on certification that a teacher earns after taking the appropriates training and graduate level classes. The extra "supplement" pay that a TSS earns doesn't even pay for the cost of the classes so most TSS certified teachers do it to help others in the profession. Most teacher training programs try to pair up new and student teachers with a TSS as a mentor and guide. The burnout rate for teachers is still quite high even in today's economy so a good TSS may be very helpful in getting new teachers to hang in there through the rough first few years.
I've been in public education for over 30 years and the TSS program is one of the few things that really seems to work and be worth the money.
Grandfather taxpayer

Ellijay, GA

#6 Jul 5, 2011
Let's get back to the basics of education all that means is to sucker more money out of the county. Get real, the people of this county is learning that it's just a racket just as most the positions that the education department generates to justifies and bolster their jobs.The "Retired Educator" will probally tell us that they worked hard for their pensions. What about the average family working to pay their mortages and taxes that the pensions are derived from.They don't have pensions so I say Educators enjoy it.The product coming out of school system is nothing to brag about but I think the Parents share equal reponsibily on this accord.The salaries and pensions listed for the county is un-believable.I therefor vote for performance tied pay and pension. Why not, the market place does this.I can tell you that my grandson fails all the though the school year but the last grading period, he is given grades to float him alone to the next year. This happen in Middle School and continues in High School. The School system is broke on both sides, Teachers , School Board and last but not least Parents.
geez

Ellijay, GA

#7 Jul 6, 2011
Grandfather taxpayer wrote:
Let's get back to the basics of education all that means is to sucker more money out of the county. Get real, the people of this county is learning that it's just a racket just as most the positions that the education department generates to justifies and bolster their jobs.The "Retired Educator" will probally tell us that they worked hard for their pensions. What about the average family working to pay their mortages and taxes that the pensions are derived from.They don't have pensions so I say Educators enjoy it.The product coming out of school system is nothing to brag about but I think the Parents share equal reponsibily on this accord.The salaries and pensions listed for the county is un-believable.I therefor vote for performance tied pay and pension. Why not, the market place does this.I can tell you that my grandson fails all the though the school year but the last grading period, he is given grades to float him alone to the next year. This happen in Middle School and continues in High School. The School system is broke on both sides, Teachers , School Board and last but not least Parents.
Sorry for my misunderstanding of the position but I do agree education system has become the newest version of DOT jobs.
graybeard

Ellijay, GA

#8 Jul 6, 2011
Grandfather taxpayer wrote:
Let's get back to the basics of education all that means is to sucker more money out of the county. Get real, the people of this county is learning that it's just a racket just as most the positions that the education department generates to justifies and bolster their jobs.The "Retired Educator" will probally tell us that they worked hard for their pensions. What about the average family working to pay their mortages and taxes that the pensions are derived from.They don't have pensions so I say Educators enjoy it.The product coming out of school system is nothing to brag about but I think the Parents share equal reponsibily on this accord.The salaries and pensions listed for the county is un-believable.I therefor vote for performance tied pay and pension. Why not, the market place does this.I can tell you that my grandson fails all the though the school year but the last grading period, he is given grades to float him alone to the next year. This happen in Middle School and continues in High School. The School system is broke on both sides, Teachers , School Board and last but not least Parents.
I have one question after READING your post .... did you go through the Ellijay school system, as your grandson is now doing?
Retired educator

Ellijay, GA

#10 Jul 6, 2011
To the grandfather taxpayer....for what it's worth I feel your pain.

The public school system has gone down the toilet and the main reason is lack of discipline in the classroom. Teachers, administrators, and school boards are scared to death of lawsuits so the easy way to avoid one is to just let the kids go wild. Lawyers are more than happy to file suits against deep-pocketed school systems because more than likely the schools will fork over big bucks to settle. Easy money.

Somewhere we have failed to communicate to students that learning is hard WORK and requires discipline, attention, and practice....including lots and lots of homework (that no one assigns anymore).

Until parents and teachers start suing to MAKE the schools control unruly students, very little education will take place....especially in middle and high schools. My advice is to do whatever it takes to get your kids in a school that can keep order and that requires students to do the hard work that is necessary to learn. If this means going into debt for a private school education for your kids...so be it. It's just a shame public schools have come to this.....just another example of too many lawyers.
mad taxpayer

Ellijay, GA

#12 Jul 6, 2011
Grandfather taxpayer wrote:
I can tell you that my grandson fails all the though the school year but the last grading period, he is given grades to float him alone to the next year. This happen in Middle School and continues in High School. The School system is broke on both sides, Teachers , School Board and last but not least Parents.
You have just defined "No Child Left Behind" in real life terms. It's been a disaster except for producing low wage employees, drug abusers and criminals in a few years. Even though many won't admit it, the Gilmer school system remains near the bottom. Considering all factors such as leadership, test scores and school culture compared to other systems, Gilmer schools are just awful. FACT.
GrandFather taxpayer

Ellijay, GA

#13 Jul 6, 2011
graybeard wrote:
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I have one question after READING your post .... did you go through the Ellijay school system, as your grandson is now doing?
No Greybreard I graduated High School upstate New York and College at Louisana Tech after service in the Air Force and I still say your School System is still lacking credibility and substance. I don't know if it is any different than surrounding School systems and probally not but I wouldn't brag about Gilmer County system if I were you.I still work and pay taxes for the school system At the end of the day I would like to know that someone in this county gave a darn and make a difference. By your activity on this site it appears that you probally do not work and pay taxes and maybe even retired from this system and could care less about the education of the students.I do.

Since: Jul 11

United States

#14 Jul 12, 2011
As Nurse w/ graduate degrees & not from this area, the lack of basic education here shows up in local healthcare consumerism. The average citizen in North Ga cannot make wise decisions re: healthy living practices, nor in healthcare choices. My point is that deficient education rears it's head across numerous dimensions & impacts the entire picture of this community's social/welfare system. It does NOT only impact the local jobs market, but does impact the general socioeconomic dynamic. This allows the community to too easily fall prey to an assortment of predatory practices. It's sad. But, it CAN be changed. Just an observation from my perspective. Wonderful, genuine folks here. Hard to speculate as to the how's & why's they've been led down the paths of poor choices.
winning

Douglasville, GA

#15 Jul 12, 2011
2 Spirit wrote:
As Nurse w/ graduate degrees & not from this area,
that explains why you have graduate degrees.(hellijay is shit stain on america)
Bessie Mae

Ellijay, GA

#16 Jul 12, 2011
Winning, may I ask where you matriculated?
Gimeeabreak

Ellijay, GA

#17 Jul 13, 2011
Bessie Mae wrote:
Winning, may I ask where you matriculated?
Come on on Bessie Mae-Don't hurt little Winning's brain with such big words. His 10th grade education can't handle it. I mean his post show such an extensive vocabulary!
winning

Douglasville, GA

#18 Jul 13, 2011
Bessie Mae wrote:
Winning, may I ask where you matriculated?
at university of georgia bi**h.(but that wont be until next year)
Bessie Mae

Ellijay, GA

#19 Jul 13, 2011
winning wrote:
<quoted text>at university of georgia bi**h.(but that wont be until next year)
Ok, that explains it. LOL That's Mrs. Bit%$ to you, punk.
appauled

Chicago, IL

#20 Jul 18, 2011
The "teacher support specialist" is nothing more than a glorified teachers aid. The male TSS (greg wingo) sure showed me his authority when I stood up to him over the job loss of a long time (27 yrs) custodian. He talked down to her in is office and told me he "would remove me". Needless to say, he didn't "remove me". I've heard he is very arrogant all around town.
It's a shame at all the money that's passed around to jobs that can not be defined.
I remember the good ole days in Gilmer Co School. Small class rooms, great teachers, great principals, wonderful staff, etc.
All those on the board should be ashamed of themselves. Dorsey is a joke and should be ran out of the county.
Get it Right

Jersey, GA

#21 Jul 18, 2011
appauled wrote:
The "teacher support specialist" is nothing more than a glorified teachers aid. The male TSS (greg wingo) sure showed me his authority when I stood up to him over the job loss of a long time (27 yrs) custodian. He talked down to her in is office and told me he "would remove me". Needless to say, he didn't "remove me". I've heard he is very arrogant all around town.
It's a shame at all the money that's passed around to jobs that can not be defined.
I remember the good ole days in Gilmer Co School. Small class rooms, great teachers, great principals, wonderful staff, etc.
All those on the board should be ashamed of themselves. Dorsey is a joke and should be ran out of the county.
The man you speak of is no longer a teacher support specialist, he is now the Deputy Superintendent of Gilmer County schools. The BOE voted on that last month.
Cartecay

Ellijay, GA

#22 Jul 18, 2011
Greg Wingo is Deputy Supt. I didn't know that.
I wish we could go back to 'electing' superintendents.

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