BOE Final Swan Song
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Joene DePlancke

Ellijay, GA

#1 Dec 12, 2012
Witness Kathy Jones' finest moment:

http://gilmer.fetchyournews.com/archives/3466... !.html
Colonel Burtz

Ellijay, GA

#2 Dec 12, 2012
Joene DePlancke wrote:
Witness Kathy Jones' finest moment:
http://gilmer.fetchyournews.com/archives/3466... !.html
Pitiful!

But very predictable. Parmer was 100% correct.
Joene DePlancke

Ellijay, GA

#3 Dec 12, 2012
Colonel Burtz wrote:
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Pitiful!
But very predictable. Parmer was 100% correct.
I read where Mr. Parmer said that this was kind of standard procedure. However, I went back and checked the minutes of the Board meetings all the way back to 2005 and this has never been done in Gilmer County. It is kind of standard procedure in Fannin and some other counties, but is not in Gilmer. And since the public resoundingly voted in a new Board and Mr. Dorsey's contract wasn't even up for renewal, it was pretty much a slap in the face to the voters of Gilmer County, don't ya think??

I'm not saying that Dorsey needs to be replaced, cause I don't know. It isn't my decision. This isn't about Dorsey. It's that Kathy Jones seems to have such little concern and respect for the process and what is right that she would take what seems to be a vindictive action before the new board is seated certainly doesn't take the kids or the welfare of Gilmer County into account, in my opinion.
Who Knew

Jasper, GA

#4 Dec 12, 2012
It was done last year at the same time.

"23. After returning to the regular meeting, Mr. Dorsey said there would be an amendment to the personnel list. Ms. Jones stated the Board had completed the Superintendent’s Evaluation at the Work Session on December 8, 2011, and would recommend the extension of Mr. Dorsey’s contract with the Gilmer County School System for 3 years. The date would begin January 1, 2012, to December 31, 2014. The contract would remain the same with no salary increase or benefits package changes. Mr. Bramlett made a motion to extend the Superintendent’s contract for 3 years. Second by Mr. Parks. All voting for."

Don't know what the whole reason for it is but it has been done for atleast the past two years now.
High and Low

Ellijay, GA

#5 Dec 12, 2012
My first reaction on reading the title of this thread was: GREAT!

I hoped that as their final act, all of the BOE members had personally kicked in $10,000 to reimburse the county for that $50,000 that was pissed away to that guy in Atlanta, the "buyers agent" with the mysterious contract signed AFTER the deal was done.

Optimism soon turned to pessimism.

In July the voters soundly indicated they wanted a change in the direction of Gilmer education. With this cynical, last minute contract extension way out until December 2015, the voters, and the students, will have to wait THREE AND A HALF YEARS.

This is indeed great news for the Superintendent.

For the voters, taxpayers, parents, and 4,000 students of Gilmer, it's a tragedy.

This stinks as badly as those last minute criminal pardons that Presidents bestow upon their friends.
Out and about

Ellijay, GA

#6 Dec 12, 2012
High and Low wrote:
My first reaction on reading the title of this thread was: GREAT!
I hoped that as their final act, all of the BOE members had personally kicked in $10,000 to reimburse the county for that $50,000 that was pissed away to that guy in Atlanta, the "buyers agent" with the mysterious contract signed AFTER the deal was done.
Optimism soon turned to pessimism.
In July the voters soundly indicated they wanted a change in the direction of Gilmer education. With this cynical, last minute contract extension way out until December 2015, the voters, and the students, will have to wait THREE AND A HALF YEARS.
This is indeed great news for the Superintendent.
For the voters, taxpayers, parents, and 4,000 students of Gilmer, it's a tragedy.
This stinks as badly as those last minute criminal pardons that Presidents bestow upon their friends.
You are saying that the voters know what is right about education, but I thought they were all stupid because they voted Obama back into office. Which one is correct?
Optimist

Ellijay, GA

#7 Dec 12, 2012
Joene DePlancke wrote:
It's that Kathy Jones seems to have such little concern and respect for the process and what is right that she would take what seems to be a vindictive action before the new board is seated certainly doesn't take the kids or the welfare of Gilmer County into account, in my opinion.
Every cloud has a silver lining.

There is no longer any doubt in whose interests this board operates. And now, the new board has been shackled for the next 3 years.

You need to view this as a liberating experience.

We can finally level with the kids, that they were getting a useless third rate public education. Freed from a bogus "academic" education mandated by an army of government bureaucrats who have never worked a day in their life in the real world, the kids are now free to learn some Street Smarts, essential, because that's where they're gonna live.

Learning the Rules of Life, is far more important than learning about the gestation period of a Tasmanian wombat.

Rule Examples:

- NEVER worry about doing the "right thing". Just grab the money.

- When vindictive adults are getting their revenge in a pissing contest, don't think that being a kid will spare you from becoming collateral damage.

- When William Congreve wrote "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned", he was right.

- Be prepared to have your life ruined by vengeful, spiteful aholes.

- When the battle is Integrity versus "The Money",
The Money wins.
ALWAYS.

- Judas betrayed Jesus for 30 pieces of silver.
You'd be surprised what $100K will buy.

- Never count on virtue coming from an organization that starts its proceedings with a prayer.

- Our country has become a moral sewer. Don't worry about righteousness or honor.

- Never worry about your reputation. 50 years from now, nobody will ever remember what you did. But the benefits of Sweet Revenge are immediate.

The kids need to play by the same rules as their role models.

Since: Jul 08

Ellijay, GA

#8 Dec 12, 2012
Optimist wrote:
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Every cloud has a silver lining.
There is no longer any doubt in whose interests this board operates. And now, the new board has been shackled for the next 3 years.
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- Never worry about your reputation. 50 years from now, nobody will ever remember what you did. But the benefits of Sweet Revenge are immediate.
The kids need to play by the same rules as their role models.
What the he## is the silver lining in this action!! You call yourself an Optimist. Maybe you need to spell out the silver lining part for me. I don't disagree with what you have said, but setting this kind of example for our students and parents is disgusting.

What lesson did we just teach the parents and students of Gilmer County? If you run for office and lose, be sure and do as much damage as you can on the way out?

Where is the lesson that in a democracy you give it your best and if you lose you give your support to the wining candidate and hand over the mantle graciously? This is a small county, we should be a family. We have children to raise and parents to help get through the morass of everyday life.

When they see our elected officials act like this it causes anger. Again, this isn't about Mr. Dorsey. I have my own opinion and issues regarding Mr. Dorsey. It is about a Board of Education that is supposed to be made up of adults who put the needs of the school system and the kids first, not their own ego. If the new Board were to determine that Mr. Dorsey's leadership and treatment of the teachers is not in the best interests of the county, they should be empowered to make a change. Kathy Jones took that option away from the new Board.
But as she so aptly stated, she was still in charge.

After reading the FetchYourNews account of last night's meeting we are going to be the laughing stock of the surrounding counties. But then we deserve it.
Optimist

Ellijay, GA

#9 Dec 12, 2012
procon1 wrote:
Where is the lesson that in a democracy you give it your best and if you lose you give your support to the wining candidate and hand over the mantle graciously? This is a small county, we should be a family. We have children to raise and parents to help get through the morass of everyday life.
Obviously that didn't happen.

In the business world, when CEOs or senior execs are fired, they are IMMEDIATELY removed, specifically to prevent retaliatory sabotage to the organization.

In politics there is a presumed virtue, that elected officials are "serving" the general welfare of the community.

Sabotaging an incoming administration is not unknown.

You recall that the Clintons, after having served the full two terms, sabotaged, vandalized and looted the White House simply out of hatred and spite toward the new President. It's divisive, it's low-class, and it harms both the institution and the citizenry. But what can you do?

The surprising part is that the vote was unanimous, including the two members who will still be there come January.

Our new BOE is now crippled coming out of the gate.

4,000 Gilmer kids are gonna pay the price.
crazy people

Ellijay, GA

#10 Dec 13, 2012
I think Mr. Dorsey has done a pretty good job considering the budget situation he has has to work with and Mr. Hathaway at GHS has been a great hire, to begin with I wasnt sure because I also like the previous principal.
At least now the new board cant just go in and try to fire the man just because he close Oakland.
Mr Parmer is the one I worry about when he gets in office hopefully he will prove me wrong and not use his post to only reopen a school we do not need
Boo Bear

Ellijay, GA

#11 Dec 13, 2012
What happened at last night's meeting? Did I misunderstand something in one of the posts?
Who Knew

Jasper, GA

#12 Dec 13, 2012
The board extended Mr. Dorsey's contract for another year. His contract is now good through Decemeber of 2015. I think it is rather common for Superintedents to have three year contracts.
Gary

Ellijay, GA

#13 Dec 13, 2012
In all reality this means nothing. If the new board chooses to do so, they can get rid of Dorsey at any given time. Of course they would have to buy out his contract through the 2015 year in order to do so. The best thing that the new board can do is govern the way that the voters intended for them to govern. Stand against any of Dorsey's hair-brained ideas and do the right thing for the children of Gilmer County. I have pulled my youngest child from public school and have been astonished at the progress he has made as a result of homeschooling. My oldest is a Sophomore and I wish I had pulled him out when he was younger. If the board stands up and does the right thing for the children of the county, who knows, maybe the King will get discouraged and resign. (not likely)
money

Ellijay, GA

#14 Dec 13, 2012
I don't know what all of you are complaining about. Cantrell got the schools in the mess that they are in. Parsons didn't do anything to curb the financial issues either. Dorsey has been the best superintendent this county has had in a long, long time. He is willing to tackle the financial issues and do what is best in the long run for the county and the students. The only issue I have with the outgoing BOE members or Dorsey is the way in which the bank building was purchased. Other than that, he gets an A+.
money

Ellijay, GA

#15 Dec 13, 2012
procon1 wrote:
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After reading the FetchYourNews account of last night's meeting we are going to be the laughing stock of the surrounding counties. But then we deserve it.
Surrounding counties already think that, but it is not because of the BOE or the schools. It is because of all the arrogant people who think they know more about education than the teachers and principals. You should hear how the people in Jasper talk about the Oakland bunch and their attempts of starting a charter school.
Optimist

Ellijay, GA

#16 Dec 13, 2012
Let's see if we can help the board by diverting this topic to discussions about Hathaway, Parmer, Oakland, charter schools, Obama, Cantrell and gossip in Jasper.
To ensure that Gilmer education NEVER gets better, let's talk about ANYTHING, except the topic.

Since: Jul 08

Ellijay, GA

#17 Dec 13, 2012
Who Knew wrote:
The board extended Mr. Dorsey's contract for another year. His contract is now good through Decemeber of 2015. I think it is rather common for Superintedents to have three year contracts.
You all miss the whole point. This thread really has nothing to do with whether or not Dorsey has done a good job. It was the fact that his contract wasn't up for renewal and it did not need to be dealt with by the outgoing board. The voters resoundingly elected a new board so their hands shouldn't have been further tied by the old board. It is just that plain and simple.

And, regarding your statement in a previous post and in reference to your comment here, it has NOT been standard practice in Gilmer County until you came, so quit trying to make it sound like this is how we have always done it. Obviously at the Superintendent conferences you go to it is discussed how important it is to get the 'three year rolling contract thing going.' Which since you have controlled our Board of Education since you arrived, you were successful at starting. But it wasn't common practice here until last year. And, there is no reason in this period of high unemployment to do such a thing and limit the county's options.
Gary

Ellijay, GA

#18 Dec 13, 2012
Optimist wrote:
Let's see if we can help the board by diverting this topic to discussions about Hathaway, Parmer, Oakland, charter schools, Obama, Cantrell and gossip in Jasper.
To ensure that Gilmer education NEVER gets better, let's talk about ANYTHING, except the topic.
Exactly!!!!
Who Knew

Jasper, GA

#19 Dec 13, 2012
procon1 wrote:
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You all miss the whole point. This thread really has nothing to do with whether or not Dorsey has done a good job. It was the fact that his contract wasn't up for renewal and it did not need to be dealt with by the outgoing board. The voters resoundingly elected a new board so their hands shouldn't have been further tied by the old board. It is just that plain and simple.
And, regarding your statement in a previous post and in reference to your comment here, it has NOT been standard practice in Gilmer County until you came, so quit trying to make it sound like this is how we have always done it. Obviously at the Superintendent conferences you go to it is discussed how important it is to get the 'three year rolling contract thing going.' Which since you have controlled our Board of Education since you arrived, you were successful at starting. But it wasn't common practice here until last year. And, there is no reason in this period of high unemployment to do such a thing and limit the county's options.
I only posted that it had been done in a previous year, not that it was standard practice in Gilmer county. I am assuming from your response that you think I am Mr. Dorsey. That sir is laughable, wrong sex, wrong job, and definetly wrong pay bracket. I also did not defend the decision. Only that it was a continuation of a practice started at least last year.
And by the way, the county did not resoundly vote out the old Board members, Oakland community resoundly voted out the old board members. This area of the county had an agenda, a plan, and acted on it. Do not presume that Oakland represents the entire county. 75% of all votes cast in the summer election were cast in Oakland areas.(and yes, that is a shame that other people did not show up to vote, in fact more people ate at the local chick-fil-a in support of Cathey on one saturday 2 weeks later than voted in the election for the new school board) Not exactly a resounding county wide decision now is it? I just hope that the new board members rememeber they do however represent the entire county and not just the vested interests of a certain district.
SICK AND TIRED

United States

#20 Dec 13, 2012
The ENTIRE cointy votes out the existing BOE not just Oakland folks! Who knew sounds more like Halfassed Harhaways wife. She is obviously going to support Hubby's best friend Bryan!

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