Gilmer county school nurse

Gilmer county school nurse

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Sean

Columbus, GA

#1 Jan 25, 2013
Get a call from my girlfriend who is at work that i need to pick her son from school due to the nurse saying he has pink eye. I was told that i have to have a doctors note saying he does not have it or he is being treated and not a risk to others. i get there and i see a nothing in his eye but me no being the mother or dad i take him home. He has a little cold that he has had for a few days but feels fine. Go to the ear, nose and throat doc the next day (his normal doc is booked until next week) and he say he is perfectly fine other than a runny nose. I ask any pink eye ect.... he said no. Then ask why is he her. i told him the nurse at the school said i have to have a note saying he's ok. Well, the doc then gets upset with the nurse and says "where did she get her degree?" "i can't believe she sent him home!" She is NOT aloud to do that unless the eye is very red and or has a good bit of discharge" This has happened before for a what she (nurse) said was strep and did the whole pick him up. doc, and doc said he does not have strep just a cold. i do understand that some kids do have strep/pink eye ect and need to protect everyone but someone has to take off work for a day, drive 60 miles round trip to doc, TRY to get a short notice appointment for nothing. I don't want to even get into the "if your child wakes up throwing up you need to take her to school so the nurse can see it a let you have a excused absent" That came directly from the school system.
Sally

Ellijay, GA

#2 Jan 25, 2013
Did this happen at Mountain View?
Have a Great Day

Ellijay, GA

#3 Jan 25, 2013
Unless the eye was noticeably pink/red, and at least itchy or painful, he shouldn't have been sent home. To start with, I would find out who sent him to the school nurse. Did he ASK to go or did his teacher send him? I'm assuming he didn't just walk in the nurse's office and she told him he had pink eye.
With the cold/flu season upon us, you're right. It's very hard to get a last-moment appointment, and kids shouldn't be send home needlessly.
Guessing

Ellijay, GA

#4 Jan 25, 2013
Must have been after 10:30 in the AM, cause they would never jeopardize attendence figures by having a child leave before then because they would not count as attended for the State Revenue dollars!

Just another example of how pathetic the education system has become! Is a school nurse authorized to diagnose? Need to show me a State Medical license !
PinkEyeWinkEye

Ellijay, GA

#5 Jan 26, 2013
My child attends the local elementary school and I would say that we've gotten good care from her. They don't mess around with pinkeye - I dropped off my child one morning and had a message waiting for me at work to say I needed to get my child. What I had attributed to "sleepy" eyes was a double infection. Poor kid.
School nurses see hundreds of children with common childhood diseases and I would venture to say that they get pretty good at spotting symptoms that aren't obvious to me or you.
The nurse may make a mistake every once in a while, but they are human, too.
told you so

Ellijay, GA

#6 Jan 26, 2013
welcome to govCare.
concern for others

Young Harris, GA

#7 Jan 26, 2013
Why do parents whine when the school calls them to pick up their sick child? I'll tell you why.....parents need free babysitting....I noticed that you complained about missing work and traveling 60 miles....so what, you are responsible for your child. What about all the other innocent children in the classrooms, buses, and bathrooms.....what about them....do you not care if your child passes these infections on to the other children. I see this type of stuff all the time and it makes me so mad!! Instead of trying to cause problems for the school or the nurse, why not just get a note from the doctor saying it was ok for them to return to school. By the time the doctor saw them, it was probably not as red. Also sounds like the doctor has an ego problem and doesn't want the nurse to make that call....What if the children that sit near your child in class have head lice or scabies and the parents don't think that is really what they have...Is it fair for your child to be exposed? Unless of course, your child is a behavior problem, and they are just looking for an excuse to send them home...otherwise, let the teachers and school nurses do their job!!
Parent

United States

#8 Jan 26, 2013
I do not have children at EES, CCMS, or GHS and do not know the nurses at these schools, but the nurses at EPS, MVE, and GMS are superior and love our children. We should all be thankful for them. The doctor that is mentioned in the first post should be ashamed for attempting to degrade one of these hardworking, dedicated professionals.
Sean

Sylacauga, AL

#9 Jan 27, 2013
Sally wrote:
Did this happen at Mountain View?
No
Sean

Sylacauga, AL

#10 Jan 27, 2013
Have a Great Day wrote:
Unless the eye was noticeably pink/red, and at least itchy or painful, he shouldn't have been sent home. To start with, I would find out who sent him to the school nurse. Did he ASK to go or did his teacher send him? I'm assuming he didn't just walk in the nurse's office and she told him he had pink eye.
With the cold/flu season upon us, you're right. It's very hard to get a last-moment appointment, and kids shouldn't be send home needlessly.
Teacher sent him. Which is what needs to happen so they can go back to teaching and have them checked out. He had been in the class almost three hours before he was sent.
Sean

Sylacauga, AL

#11 Jan 27, 2013
Guessing wrote:
Must have been after 10:30 in the AM, cause they would never jeopardize attendence figures by having a child leave before then because they would not count as attended for the State Revenue dollars!
Just another example of how pathetic the education system has become! Is a school nurse authorized to diagnose? Need to show me a State Medical license !
lol it was 10:45 when they called.
Sean

Sylacauga, AL

#12 Jan 27, 2013
concern for others wrote:
Why do parents whine when the school calls them to pick up their sick child? I'll tell you why.....parents need free babysitting....I noticed that you complained about missing work and traveling 60 miles....so what, you are responsible for your child. What about all the other innocent children in the classrooms, buses, and bathrooms.....what about them....do you not care if your child passes these infections on to the other children. I see this type of stuff all the time and it makes me so mad!! Instead of trying to cause problems for the school or the nurse, why not just get a note from the doctor saying it was ok for them to return to school. By the time the doctor saw them, it was probably not as red. Also sounds like the doctor has an ego problem and doesn't want the nurse to make that call....What if the children that sit near your child in class have head lice or scabies and the parents don't think that is really what they have...Is it fair for your child to be exposed? Unless of course, your child is a behavior problem, and they are just looking for an excuse to send them home...otherwise, let the teachers and school nurses do their job!!
You are a NUT and sounds like you are a school nurse also??! Let me see if i can break down your crap.
"parents need free babysitting" What??? Parents need kids to have a good education and learning experience. NOT a school that babysits. Do you think schools are babysitters???
"missing work and traveling 60 miles....so what" Looks like your not the one in the family that pays bills. Just a guess!
"I see this type of stuff all the time" hmmm All the time?? this is leading more towards a school employee..... maybe a nurse?
"get a note from the doctor" DID THAT! Thank you for reminding again?
"By the time the doctor saw them" It was less than 24hrs and THE EYE WAS NOT PINK/RED WHEN I PICKED HIM UP!!!!
"doctor has an ego problem" How?? He is so busy seeing sick kids that he doesn't have time to see healthy kids! He was unhappy due to being busy with real illness. My ins probably paid 300.00 + dollars for him to give me a note saying he's fine because the nurse said we had to have one! What degree does a gilmer school nurse have to have?
"Unless of course, your child is a behavior problem" Where the hell did that come from? So your saying to me that a child that is having a behavior problem is sent to the nurse so the nurse can send them hpme??? WOW you are out there! Come to think about it IS that what you would do IF you were a school nurse?
"nurses do their job" What is there job guidelines? Guess i need to look on county web or ask at the BOE meeting.
p.s. both kids love school and learning. Surprising i know but very true. Both have great report cards. The older one has a Super nurse at her school. One that i trust very much.
huh

Mooresville, NC

#13 Jan 27, 2013
concern for others wrote:
Why do parents whine when the school calls them to pick up their sick child? I'll tell you why.....parents need free babysitting....I noticed that you complained about missing work and traveling 60 miles....so what, you are responsible for your child. What about all the other innocent children in the classrooms, buses, and bathrooms.....what about them....do you not care if your child passes these infections on to the other children. I see this type of stuff all the time and it makes me so mad!! Instead of trying to cause problems for the school or the nurse, why not just get a note from the doctor saying it was ok for them to return to school. By the time the doctor saw them, it was probably not as red. Also sounds like the doctor has an ego problem and doesn't want the nurse to make that call....What if the children that sit near your child in class have head lice or scabies and the parents don't think that is really what they have...Is it fair for your child to be exposed? Unless of course, your child is a behavior problem, and they are just looking for an excuse to send them home...otherwise, let the teachers and school nurses do their job!!
free babysitting?!?!?! there is nothing free about it...have you received a property tax bill in the last 20 years? I do not even have children and I know it sure as hell isn't free.....
Optimist

Ellijay, GA

#14 Jan 27, 2013
concern for others wrote:
Why do parents whine when the school calls them to pick up their sick child? I'll tell you why.....
Why do devious people slyly choose posting nics that imply that they have someone else's interests at heart?

Nics such as "concern for others"?

I'll tell you why.....

People who are accustomed to dealing with children ALWAYS assume they can deceive adults in the same fashion that they bamboozle the kids.

So rather than defending your position, you've come off looking like a charlatan.

Johnny Reb

Ellijay, GA

#15 Jan 27, 2013
Optimist wrote:
<quoted text>Why do devious people slyly choose posting nics that imply that they have someone else's interests at heart?

Nics such as "concern for others"?

I'll tell you why.....

People who are accustomed to dealing with children ALWAYS assume they can deceive adults in the same fashion that they bamboozle the kids.

So rather than defending your position, you've come off looking like a charlatan.
I guess for the same reason a pessimist would use the name Optimist.
Have a Great Day

Ellijay, GA

#16 Jan 27, 2013
Look. This has all gotten blown way out-of-proportion! The teacher obviously noted that the child had an irritated eye around 10:30 or so. She has 30+ kids in her room, so she doesn't go around inspecting every child's eyes......she has a job to do, which is TEACH. Maybe the child started rubbing his/her eye and she noticed it and then looked at the eye. Maybe it was pink/red because of the RUBBING.
However, it was brought to the school nurse's attention. I don't know if the "school nurse" is actually a nurse (LPN/RN) or not. Many schools use secretaries for the "school nurse" or an actual nurse covers several schools.
If I were the school nurse, I would rather err on the side of being over-cautious, as pink-eye is VERY contagious, and you don't want an outbreak with a bunch of kids being out with it. If memory serves me right, they have to remain out of school until they are afebrile, no exudate from the eye and been on antibiotic eye ointment for at least 24 hours from detection.
I don't know who the EENT was, but he's wrong in saying she's not allowed to notify a parent of possible pink-eye until the eye is very red and has a lot of exudate. It's too late then....the child has probably infected every kid in the class!!
I'd rather have an overly-cautious teacher/nurse watching over my child than to wait until the child is VERY sick, has infected many other children and misses very many days of school.
Please just let it drop. If it's a recurring incident, then address it, but for one incident?
mare

Ellijay, GA

#17 Jan 27, 2013
As far as I know, the Ellijay Elementary school nurse is a LPN.
sean

Eastaboga, AL

#18 Jan 27, 2013
mare wrote:
As far as I know, the Ellijay Elementary school nurse is a LPN.
She is a fantastic nurse. Would trust her about anything dealing with kids health.
sean

Eastaboga, AL

#19 Jan 27, 2013
Have a Great Day wrote:
Look. This has all gotten blown way out-of-proportion! The teacher obviously noted that the child had an irritated eye around 10:30 or so. She has 30+ kids in her room, so she doesn't go around inspecting every child's eyes......she has a job to do, which is TEACH. Maybe the child started rubbing his/her eye and she noticed it and then looked at the eye. Maybe it was pink/red because of the RUBBING.
However, it was brought to the school nurse's attention. I don't know if the "school nurse" is actually a nurse (LPN/RN) or not. Many schools use secretaries for the "school nurse" or an actual nurse covers several schools.
If I were the school nurse, I would rather err on the side of being over-cautious, as pink-eye is VERY contagious, and you don't want an outbreak with a bunch of kids being out with it. If memory serves me right, they have to remain out of school until they are afebrile, no exudate from the eye and been on antibiotic eye ointment for at least 24 hours from detection.
I don't know who the EENT was, but he's wrong in saying she's not allowed to notify a parent of possible pink-eye until the eye is very red and has a lot of exudate. It's too late then....the child has probably infected every kid in the class!!
I'd rather have an overly-cautious teacher/nurse watching over my child than to wait until the child is VERY sick, has infected many other children and misses very many days of school.
Please just let it drop. If it's a recurring incident, then address it, but for one incident?
If i had seen it pinkish/red then ok it needs to be looked at. He could have poked his eye in class and that is what she saw but by the time i saw it up close with good lighting it looked fine. They should let parnets know if ther is a problem. Doc did not say that he said they shouldn't have requested a doc note for that unless it was VERY noticable. Same thing happened a few months ago when they SAID he had strep. Doc said he didn't just a cold.
Yoy

Ellijay, GA

#20 Feb 20, 2013
This thread is just another way to attack people in the field of education or the medical field, in which they devote their entire work day to other people's children and/or other people in general. I will go to my grave not understanding why people are so extremely judge mental of teachers, doctors, and nurses without truly having any facts....it's all too often based on opinion,personal perception, or a child's slighted and commonly exaggerated stories. Lets build these people up, not tear them down. And while we're at it, lets build up everyone we can. "We need to be much more aggressive in the building up of others and much more passive in tearing others down. For one day, you will do something stupid too." - Joyce Meyer

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