Racist PBJ Sandwiches

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Talking Rock, GA

#1 Sep 10, 2012
That's right, peanut butter and jelly sandwiches are now racist.

As US public education descends into total madness, one wonders about the nature and character of people drawn to public school administration.

How badly does a person have to hate children to inflict such cruel and unusual punishment on them?

http://portlandtribune.com/pt-rss/9-news/1146...

Since: Aug 12

Ellijay

#2 Sep 10, 2012
Reality wrote:
That's right, peanut butter and jelly sandwiches are now racist.
As US public education descends into total madness, one wonders about the nature and character of people drawn to public school administration.
How badly does a person have to hate children to inflict such cruel and unusual punishment on them?
http://portlandtribune.com/pt-rss/9-news/1146...
Our country has truly gone crazy. I grew up in a very rural part of North Georgia in the 50's and 60's, and I saw REAL racism first hand. It wasn't right, and it needed to be fixed - but I think it has been. Maybe not 100%, but fairly close. Mind you, I'm talking about actual racism - not the catch-all phrase that it has become.

That said, this idea of equity is more a function of political correctness, I believe, than racism. The goal of political correctness is to reduce us all to the level of the lowest common denominator. We could never have built this country on that premis. I don't believe that we can hold on to what has been built with that philosophy guiding us.

For now, this way of thinking seems to be rooted in the larger cities - but it is headed our way; Probably not so much because we embrace it as because we will get it shoved down our throats. The only thing saving us at this point is our rural communities that still maintain the values we were taught - and still teach these values to our children. As the metro cities expand, these communities are becoming fewer and fewer and if nothing changes there will be a time when they are gone. In the meantimer, thank God for Gilmer County and places like Gilmer.

“Airhead”

Since: Jan 11

I'm finished with commas!

#3 Sep 11, 2012
When I saw this today, it was quite the planting of a seed.
I needed a PB&J, like now.
So the minute I came home, I made a PB&J, a triple-double peanie butter, cause I'm THAT racist.

And I saluted Portland while stuffing my hateful face.
Hermans Mama

Talking Rock, GA

#4 Sep 14, 2012
Charlie Paris wrote:
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Our country has truly gone crazy. I grew up in a very rural part of North Georgia in the 50's and 60's, and I saw REAL racism first hand. It wasn't right, and it needed to be fixed - but I think it has been. Maybe not 100%, but fairly close. Mind you, I'm talking about actual racism - not the catch-all phrase that it has become.
That said, this idea of equity is more a function of political correctness, I believe, than racism. The goal of political correctness is to reduce us all to the level of the lowest common denominator. We could never have built this country on that premis. I don't believe that we can hold on to what has been built with that philosophy guiding us.
For now, this way of thinking seems to be rooted in the larger cities - but it is headed our way; Probably not so much because we embrace it as because we will get it shoved down our throats. The only thing saving us at this point is our rural communities that still maintain the values we were taught - and still teach these values to our children. As the metro cities expand, these communities are becoming fewer and fewer and if nothing changes there will be a time when they are gone. In the meantimer, thank God for Gilmer County and places like Gilmer.
Great post. Read this:
http://stuffblackpeopledontlike.blogspot.com/...
So is this racism or reality?

Since: May 12

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#5 Sep 14, 2012
Hermans Mama wrote:
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Great post. Read this:
http://stuffblackpeopledontlike.blogspot.com/...
So is this racism or reality?
After reading the article , I believe it does come off as racism. While I agree the black community does seem to have more than its share of crime, to imply the white community doesn't is just wrong. Just look to Gilmer and follow the arrest reports. While Gilmer's crime are almost all drugs and drug related. Like it or not it is now the 21 first century and in America you are able to live were ever you can afford. I have lived in Gilmer long enough to remember days before the hispanic invasion. Yes they brought a lot of problems with them when they came here: low wages, increase welfare, burdens on school systems and so on. I am sure someone will point out the positives for me... With this said they still have every right to be here, if THEY ARE LEGAL!!!. The time of all white communities or counties is a thing of the past. Be that good or bad, I will leave that assumption up to you.

Since: Aug 12

Ellijay

#6 Sep 14, 2012
Hermans Mama wrote:
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Great post. Read this:
http://stuffblackpeopledontlike.blogspot.com/...
So is this racism or reality?
The scariest part of that article is this sentence....

"Because Atlanta has no natural boundaries (save unsafe neighborhoods that are 100 percent Black), the spread of suburbs can continue in a 360-degree radius".

This is what I was saying in my earlier post (minus the black/white part). All the mega cities will continue to expand. As they do, they will swallow the peaceful rural areas around them. Right now, our own mega-city, Atlanta, has expanded out into Cherokee County. Not all of Cherokee County, but out to about Holly Springs.

I don't see this as a Black/White issue. I see it as an Urban/Rural issue. When Metro Atlanta expands to include Gilmer County, life as we know it will be over. In terms of congestion, every week will be like Apple Festival week. The good news, for me, is that I've probably outrun it. I'm old enough that I don't think I'll see it in my lifetime. That doesn't mean it won't happen - and I have no idea how we can stop it.

This will only be a problem for those of us who grew up in the country. Those raised in the cities will be very happy and have no clue what has been lost - or what they are missing. Those who grew up in rural areas can continue to move further and further out, to try to live where there is privacy, clean air, quiet, wildlife, trees, and all the amenities of country living - but the time will come when all the mega-cities will just start to overlap and there will be nowhere to move. Granted, it may take a couple of hundred years to get to that point - but it's coming.

Now I have depressed me, and I have to go and find a way to cheer me up.

Since: May 12

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#7 Sep 14, 2012
Charlie Paris wrote:
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The scariest part of that article is this sentence....
"Because Atlanta has no natural boundaries (save unsafe neighborhoods that are 100 percent Black), the spread of suburbs can continue in a 360-degree radius".
This is what I was saying in my earlier post (minus the black/white part). All the mega cities will continue to expand. As they do, they will swallow the peaceful rural areas around them. Right now, our own mega-city, Atlanta, has expanded out into Cherokee County. Not all of Cherokee County, but out to about Holly Springs.
I don't see this as a Black/White issue. I see it as an Urban/Rural issue. When Metro Atlanta expands to include Gilmer County, life as we know it will be over. In terms of congestion, every week will be like Apple Festival week. The good news, for me, is that I've probably outrun it. I'm old enough that I don't think I'll see it in my lifetime. That doesn't mean it won't happen - and I have no idea how we can stop it.
This will only be a problem for those of us who grew up in the country. Those raised in the cities will be very happy and have no clue what has been lost - or what they are missing. Those who grew up in rural areas can continue to move further and further out, to try to live where there is privacy, clean air, quiet, wildlife, trees, and all the amenities of country living - but the time will come when all the mega-cities will just start to overlap and there will be nowhere to move. Granted, it may take a couple of hundred years to get to that point - but it's coming.
Now I have depressed me, and I have to go and find a way to cheer me up.
Charlie you are probably right. If the population keeps growing.

“Airhead”

Since: Jan 11

I'm finished with commas!

#8 Sep 14, 2012
Charlie Paris wrote:
When Metro Atlanta expands to include Gilmer County, life as we know it will be over.
You're scaring me, Charlie :{

Charlie Paris wrote:
I'm old enough that I don't think I'll see it in my lifetime.
B..b..but will I???
Charlie Paris wrote:
Now I have depressed me, and I have to go and find a way to cheer me up.
You owe me a Scotch. Laphroaig preferably.
Hermans Mama

Talking Rock, GA

#9 Sep 14, 2012
Charlie Paris wrote:
<quoted text>
The scariest part of that article is this sentence....
"Because Atlanta has no natural boundaries (save unsafe neighborhoods that are 100 percent Black), the spread of suburbs can continue in a 360-degree radius".
This is what I was saying in my earlier post (minus the black/white part). All the mega cities will continue to expand. As they do, they will swallow the peaceful rural areas around them. Right now, our own mega-city, Atlanta, has expanded out into Cherokee County. Not all of Cherokee County, but out to about Holly Springs.
I don't see this as a Black/White issue. I see it as an Urban/Rural issue....
Charlie, I think you have put your PC glasses back on. Call it black/white, you can try and call it racist, but the truth is it is just facts! Plain and simple. Name one city, one county, one country in the entire world that has improved when minorities took over? Name just one. Atlanta used to be a beautiful city and well run, then came Maynard Jackson. Oh, yeah, he expanded the airport which was really good for Atlanta and the surrounding area, but he also put blacks in charge of just about everything and the corruption began. By the time Andrew Young, Bill Campbell and shirley Jackson finished with the city it was deep in debt, the infrastructure hadn't been worked on in the 30 years they were in charge. Almost every bridge in Atlanta was deemed unsafe for the school buses, the sewer system was from the civil war era and parts collapsed each year taking buildings and homes with it, etc. etc.

Look at Detroit, Philadelphia, the Belgian Congo, Zimbabwe, Chicago, Cleveland, etc etc. Name just one that didn't start an immediate down hill slide never to return from. Is that racist or just fact? In fact, name just one neighborhood where the property values have gone up after minorities have moved in, just one. There were several really nice neighborhoods south of Atlanta off Camp Creek Parkway and one off Campbellton road with beautiful homes like Buckhead. All black residents. Andrew Young lived in one of them. In just 10 years, the signs of deterioration were so evident. It was like not one of the residents, all who made lots of money with Coca Cola or were lawyers in big law firms, but apparently no one ever learned how to do or pay for maintenance. They just let the houses fall apart and then they moved. Just facts, not racist, just facts based on ethnicity.

Since: Aug 12

Ellijay

#10 Sep 15, 2012
Hermans Mama wrote:
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Charlie, I think you have put your PC glasses back on./QUOTE]

Ouch! That hurt. I HATE P.C.

[QUOTE who="Hermans Mama"]<quoted text>
Call it black/white, you can try and call it racist, but the truth is it is just facts! Plain and simple. Name one city, one county, one country in the entire world that has improved when minorities took over? Name just one. Atlanta used to be a beautiful city and well run, then came Maynard Jackson. Oh, yeah, he expanded the airport which was really good for Atlanta and the surrounding area, but he also put blacks in charge of just about everything and the corruption began. By the time Andrew Young, Bill Campbell and shirley Jackson finished with the city it was deep in debt, the infrastructure hadn't been worked on in the 30 years they were in charge. Almost every bridge in Atlanta was deemed unsafe for the school buses, the sewer system was from the civil war era and parts collapsed each year taking buildings and homes with it, etc. etc.
Look at Detroit, Philadelphia, the Belgian Congo, Zimbabwe, Chicago, Cleveland, etc etc. Name just one that didn't start an immediate down hill slide never to return from. Is that racist or just fact? In fact, name just one neighborhood where the property values have gone up after minorities have moved in, just one. There were several really nice neighborhoods south of Atlanta off Camp Creek Parkway and one off Campbellton road with beautiful homes like Buckhead. All black residents. Andrew Young lived in one of them. In just 10 years, the signs of deterioration were so evident. It was like not one of the residents, all who made lots of money with Coca Cola or were lawyers in big law firms, but apparently no one ever learned how to do or pay for maintenance. They just let the houses fall apart and then they moved. Just facts, not racist, just facts based on ethnicity.
Your point is well taken, and I don't disagree, but I think we are saying two separate things. You're talking about mismanagement/corruption/incom petence, but I'm talking about expansion. Mismanagement/corruption/incom petence are bad, but they can be corrected if the voters ever really decide to elect competent people and fix the problem. That means voting for the most competent person for any position, even if that person is not the same color as me, the same religion as me, or born in the same county as me. Expansion, on the other hand, is forever. I'm especially sensitive to Metro Atlanta expansion, and that's why the sentence mentioned hit home for me. What I predict for Gilmer in the future has already happened to my home county (Paulding). The tranquility and rural environment has given way to congestion and traffic jams. In the early '80s I moved to Woodstock, which at that time was nothing but a bump in the road. We all know what Woodstock is like now. Not bad, if you're an urban type, but not good if you are "country". We bought our property in Gilmer in the early 2000's and built our house here a couple of years later. Gilmer is the closest thing I have found to the environment where I grew up, but I know that the never ending expansion that is Metro Atlanta will someday get here; Just not (hopefully) in my lifetime.

I'm not trying to be P.C., and I never want to be that. I'm just not as concerned with the the prospect of mismanagement/corruption/incom petence as I am with encroaching urbanism - at least for Gilmer County.
enough hate

Southampton, PA

#11 Sep 15, 2012
Verenice Gutierrez is the name of the principal
at the Portland Or school who said that Peanut
butter and Jelly sandwhich's are RACIST!
What's next,being White is racist? This women
should not be in the school system teaching hate and racisim to kids,she should be fired! Kids should be learning RRR not hate and raisim.

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#12 Sep 15, 2012
I think HM is describing the CAUSE of the urban expansion, and CP is describing the EFFECTS of the expansion.

Metro Atlanta now has 20 counties.
The rapid expansion over the past 30 years has NOT been due to organic growth, but rather flight from the inner cities.

Some people flee to the tranquility of country life.
And then start bulldozing and clear-cutting.

Others flee to escape urban crime.

Our problem in Gilmer is that we've had an influx of Yankees and Floridians. And the Floridians are mostly just ex-Yankees who could no longer afford the insurance on their trailers in Florida.

The Yankees lived up north amongst the hordes for so long, that there is little difference between them and them.

The leading indicators of Yankee infestation and deterioration are franchise restaurants.

No Yankee can resist the temptation to shit in his own nest.

The trouble is, they're now shitting in ours.
Hermans Mama

Talking Rock, GA

#13 Sep 15, 2012
Charlie Paris wrote:
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Your point is well taken, and I don't disagree, but I think we are saying two separate things. You're talking about mismanagement/corruption/incom petence, but I'm talking about expansion. Mismanagement/corruption/incom petence are bad, but they can be corrected if the voters ever really decide to elect competent people and fix the problem.

***

I'm not trying to be P.C., and I never want to be that. I'm just not as concerned with the the prospect of mismanagement/corruption/incom petence as I am with encroaching urbanism - at least for Gilmer County.
Charlie, you may be talking about encroaching urbanism, and urbanism definitely has its drawbacks and brings an additional set of problems on a community. But I am literally talking about ethnic encroachment.(Notice my PCism.) There is a distinct difference between growth and normal expansion of like ethnic groups and white flight to another area causing growth in a new area that will be followed by a minority race.(Again trying to be PC). Vietnamese communities, Japanese communities, Chinese communities all take pride in their communities until blacks move in and the original race begins to vacate.

Now I will be blunt and will restate the question I asked earlier which would put everything into perspective. But you seemed to have deliberately avoided answering it. Name one community, town, city, state region or country that has shown economic improvement or reduction in crime when blacks have moved in and taken over? Name just one. They move in, overtax the schools, hospitals and welfare systems. Then they run for office because now they have a majority of votes, take control of city hall, make more welfare decisions, the whites either leave or as in Atlanta, vote to secede from the city and make their own community, and then the process repeats.

And, if you think "Mismanagement/corruption /incompetence are bad, but they can be corrected if the voters ever really decide to elect competent people and fix the problem" is a true statement, you have your head totally buried in the sand and I guess you still believe in the Easter Bunny. In the above scenario, there would NEVER be any way to elect competent people to "fix the problem." That is why the whites leave and try to create a decent environment somewhere else. Then the blacks realize they are living in a ghetto, albeit one that they created, and so they leave to. First the more educated blacks that also want what is better for their children, but then the others follow and the cycle repeats. The educated blacks that want to improve also see the hopelessness and move, even they cannot compete or overcome the crime and lawlessness.

These are NOT racist statements. They are simply facts. I don't know why it is that way, and I never actually saw it this way until someone asked me the same question I asked you above. I was challenged to find one example where blacks have improved an area. I searched and searched for years and every time I found what I thought was a good example, corruption was discovered within the year.

So until black people listen to someone like Bill Cosby, Herman Cain or Chris Rock who have been trying to get black people to take responsibility, to take time to clean up their homes, their communities, to make their children show respect, study hard, demand accountability from the teachers etc. etc. there is no hope.

So, Charlie, you may want to escape just plain urbanism, but I want to escape ghettoism and crime and dumbed down school systems, and I want to fight to keep that from happening in Gilmer and Fannin counties.

Since: Aug 12

Ellijay

#14 Sep 15, 2012
Hermans Mama wrote:
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Now I will be blunt and will restate the question I asked earlier which would put everything into perspective. But you seemed to have deliberately avoided answering it. Name one community, town, city, state region or country that has shown economic improvement or reduction in crime when blacks have moved in and taken over? Name just one.
You are right. You asked a direct question and you deserve a direct answer. My answer is no. I cannot name one.
Hermans Mama wrote:
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And, if you think "Mismanagement/corruption /incompetence are bad, but they can be corrected if the voters ever really decide to elect competent people and fix the problem" is a true statement, you have your head totally buried in the sand and I guess you still believe in the Easter Bunny. In the above scenario, there would NEVER be any way to elect competent people to "fix the problem."
Yeah, you're probably right. I may very well have my head in the sand on this one. But I do believe these things can be fixed if the voters really decide to elect competent people. The problem is that I believe it to be very, very unlikely that enough voters will ever make that particular decision. So I stand by my statement that these problems could be fixed by electing competent people, but I concede your point that it will never happen. Still, you're not seriously saying that there is no Easter Bunny are you? On top of everything else, that would just be too much for me to take.
Hermans Mama wrote:
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So, Charlie, you may want to escape just plain urbanism, but I want to escape ghettoism and crime and dumbed down school systems, and I want to fight to keep that from happening in Gilmer and Fannin counties.
You're right again, but I do associate ghettoism, crime, and dumbed down school systems with urbanism. It's just that these things aren't my greatest fear, in terms of living my own life. What I fear more is the loss of privacy, quiet, wildlife, scenic views, and personal space. That's why, when I read the sentence about Atlanta expanding 360 degrees, it hit my hot spot. The result is that I skewed the subject of the post from your original question and went off on my own rant. I apologize. But again, I don't think we have an actual difference of opinion. We are just each coming at it from a different direction.

Since: Aug 12

Ellijay

#15 Sep 15, 2012
EgoBrain wrote:
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You're scaring me, Charlie :{
<quoted text>
B..b..but will I???
<quoted text>
You owe me a Scotch. Laphroaig preferably.
EB, I just checked the price on Laphroaig. Perhaps we could compromise on Haig's Supreme?:)

“Airhead”

Since: Jan 11

I'm finished with commas!

#16 Sep 15, 2012
taptaptaptaptap..........

Fine. FINE! Haig's Supreme it is.
I've never had it, is it single malt?

(I like to act like I know my Scotch. I impress people.)

“Airhead”

Since: Jan 11

I'm finished with commas!

#17 Sep 15, 2012
Hermans Mama~~ I love your blunt language.

Since: Aug 12

Ellijay

#18 Sep 15, 2012
EgoBrain wrote:
taptaptaptaptap..........
Fine. FINE! Haig's Supreme it is.
I've never had it, is it single malt?
(I like to act like I know my Scotch. I impress people.)
Actually, I know absolutely nothing about Scotch. I googled Laphroaig, found that it was a single malt Scotch, then looked at the price. I just about choked. Then, I googled "cheap scotch", and Haig's Supreme was the 2nd cheapest I found (see, I didn't try to get by with the cheapest). It said it was a blended Scotch.

“Airhead”

Since: Jan 11

I'm finished with commas!

#19 Sep 15, 2012
:D

Ok, since it took me a decade to actually like the taste of Scotch, we'll have to pass on that 2nd cheapest stuff!

Every now and then, in the liquor store in town, they sell Laphroaig for around $37. It's worth trying, once. It's smokey, very very peat smokey.
And a bottle lasts me about a year, cause I like to make a ceremony out of drinking it.

It's a borrowed ceremony, the kind you read of connoisseurs doing in whiskey magazines.
I get cozy, let it warm in my glass, swirl it, sip it, roll it around the tongue, let my mind wander down misty Autumn roads with a Spaniel at my side...
Pretend I'm elite and living the good life.

I'm not the only one who does that, right?

Since: Sep 12

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#20 Sep 15, 2012
Hermans Mama wrote:
Name one community, town, city, state region or country that has shown economic improvement or reduction in crime when blacks have moved in and taken over? Name just one.
Liberals would tell you that just because something has never happened anywhere on earth, since the beginning of time, doesn't mean that it's not possible.

I can tell you though, that before pissing away $Trillions of dollars on social equalization programs, and turning every inner city in the country into a sewer of crime and squalor, I'd have invested $10 in a bushel of apples.

Ya toss in a couple of rotten ones, and wait for the result.

Do the good apples cure the rot?
Or does the rot spread through the entire bushel?

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