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CountryGeekGirl

Cleveland, TN

#85 Jul 12, 2012
Stryffe wrote:
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That aside though, you took the one bit of my comment that I stuck in there just for fun and ran with it. You completely left out anything about the topic at hand, and that is what we all do. We ignore the poor and the down trodden and focus and the things that are most important to us.
You're right. I did, and I did so purposely. I have this bad habit of arguing with brick walls, and although I'm getting better at resisting it, I still can't seem to stop myself.

There is no way to convince people who don't want to help the poor to understand why they should help the poor. Why should I attempt to argue that if it's pointless? It's a waste of energy. It makes me mad, it makes them mad, and nobody's mind changes.

There are people in this country that desperately need help, people that are doing a lot to help themselves, but just can't get out of the situation they're in. People like EgoBrain can argue all he wants that poor people should ride bikes ten miles to work and sew quilts by hand, but I can nearly guarantee you he has had at least a relatively easy ride and wouldn't be willing to do any of the things he preaches. I sure as hell don't want to (and couldn't) ride a bike ten miles to work. If I was 20 years old and weighed 110, I might feel differently. It would also help if I knew how to ride a bike, but I digress.:P

A lot of conservatives have a bad habit of working in ideals rather than in reality. They expect people to go far above and beyond anything they would be willing to do themselves to get out of a bad situation. The ones who preach this nonsense are almost always the ones who've never known what it's like to go without basic needs. It's easy to say "oh just do this and that" when you have enough money for your utility bills and food.

Yes, I'm stupid for coming in here and arguing. But it causes me great pain and anguish to hear people be so damned callous and uncaring. Yes, there are absolutely people in this country who abuse the welfare system, but there are also many who just need a boost or a temporary hand so that they can find their way out of a financial hole. And saying crap like "People who get food stamps shouldn't be able to buy junk food" make me furious. Believe me, there's not much joy in life when you're so poor you can't even pay your bills and you're stuck in a bad situation, and sometimes a bag of Doritos is as close to happy as some people get. But it's easy for people who have the freedom financially to go out, go shopping, go see a movie, buy a video game system or go to a football game to sit and preach about the poor and how they don't deserve a friggin' bag of chips.
Reality

Ellijay, GA

#86 Jul 12, 2012
"From Each, according to his ability,
To Each, according to his need."

This slogan, penned by Karl Marx, is the basis of the Communist philosophy.

This slogan, when put into practice, has caused the brutal death of at least 100 million people in the 20'th century.

Since: Jul 10

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#87 Jul 12, 2012
CountryGeekGirl wrote:
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I have this bad habit of arguing with brick walls, and although I'm getting better at resisting it, I still can't seem to stop myself.
There is no way to convince people who don't want to help the poor to understand why they should help the poor. Why should I attempt to argue that if it's pointless?
You are making assumptions I think. I like to think of myself as a logical person. I try never to let emotion rule me. That being said if I ever make a point and it is countered by a well thought out argument, presented in a logical way then I may very likely change my view. I'm sure I'm not the only person on here that is willing to change.

Now most people here wont I'm sure but if you can take one thing from history learn that if you say something loud enough and long enough then people will be swayed in your direction.

Don't give up trying.

Since: Jul 10

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#88 Jul 12, 2012
Reality wrote:
"From Each, according to his ability,
To Each, according to his need."
This slogan, penned by Karl Marx, is the basis of the Communist philosophy.
This slogan, when put into practice, has caused the brutal death of at least 100 million people in the 20'th century.
The sad thing is communism is a decent idea and may work in a smaller area. The idea of everyone helps and the wealth is shared goes back a long way. Like I said before though we are a capitalist society and far too large for this type of system to work here.

“Airhead”

Since: Jan 11

I'm finished with commas!

#89 Jul 12, 2012
CountryGeekGirl wrote:
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.......and although I'm getting better at resisting it,
No, you're not.
CountryGeekGirl wrote:
People like EgoBrain can argue all he wants that poor people should ride bikes ten miles to work and sew quilts by hand, but I can nearly guarantee you he has had at least a relatively easy ride and wouldn't be willing to do any of the things he preaches.
You sure about that easy ride, Ducky? As sure as you are that I'm a 'he?'
Be careful about ASSumptions.
CountryGeekGirl wrote:
I sure as hell don't want to (and couldn't) ride a bike ten miles to work.
I would. I have. I even, gasp, hike the mountains for pleasure!
CountryGeekGirl wrote:
A lot of conservatives have a bad habit of working in ideals rather than in reality.
Like....? Do you even know what you're saying? Give examples that you know what you're saying.
CountryGeekGirl wrote:
They expect people to go far above and beyond anything they would be willing to do themselves to get out of a bad situation.
Examples? Prove you know what you claim. Cite links or something.
CountryGeekGirl wrote:
The ones who preach this nonsense are almost always the ones who've never known what it's like to go without basic needs.
Preach what nonsense? And please, show proof of what you claim.
CountryGeekGirl wrote:
It's easy to say "oh just do this and that" when you have enough money for your utility bills and food.
Why do I owe you, your utilities? Let's cut the crap, Country Girl. You're talking about you. ASSumption.
CountryGeekGirl wrote:
Yes, I'm stupid for coming in here and arguing.
I disagree.
CountryGeekGirl wrote:
But it causes me great pain and anguish to hear people be so damned callous and uncaring..........blah blah..........sniff........bla h.......waaaa.......
Cue the violins.(I'm a smarta$$ occasionally. Sorry)

CountryGirl, if you are in need of basic human necessities, say it. I have never turned my back to someone in true need.
Private message me if there's something you're in need of.
You would actually like me.
nadine

Ellijay, GA

#90 Jul 12, 2012
turniptown wrote:
People you really don't believe this will be repelled do you? There is way to much money involved here for it to be repelled. The absolutely only way that it would be repelled is if Republicans controlled the house, senate and presidency. Once something this big has been implemented and money being collected, it will not be stopped. To many people stand to get rich, mainly insurance companies.
word "insurance" suddenly has a death grip on fema, too. tied to the words "flood maps" that have been being changed across the country the last year or so. with many newly announced changes, fema was harking "buy insurance, buy insurance"
so true

Mooresville, NC

#91 Jul 13, 2012
CountryGeekGirl wrote:
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Yeah,'cause poor people don't deserve snacks. In fact, they don't deserve any happiness at all, because they're poor. Poor people should always be miserable, because they're POOR.
I bet you eat healthy every minute of your life, don't you, you hypocrite?
I work for my money , I can eat what I want. Why don't you liberals put your money where your mouth is and adopt a less fortunate family to feed? Yeah, great idea...you go to work all day and then donate your money to the mom and dad that lay on the couch all day doing meth and smoking cigarettes....

Since: Jul 08

Ellijay, GA

#92 Jul 13, 2012
so true wrote:
<quoted text> I work for my money , I can eat what I want. Why don't you liberals put your money where your mouth is and adopt a less fortunate family to feed? Yeah, great idea...you go to work all day and then donate your money to the mom and dad that lay on the couch all day doing meth and smoking cigarettes....
So, true So True. You hit the nail on the head. The "liberals" or the do gooders, want you to contribute your money, and for the government to impose rules and laws and regulations to take our money, but the liberals aren't willing to go out there and give their own time and money, they just campaign for it to be law that the have-nots be given more. Sick, very sick.
Reality

Ellijay, GA

#93 Jul 13, 2012
so true wrote:
I work for my money , I can eat what I want. Why don't you liberals put your money where your mouth is and adopt a less fortunate family to feed? Yeah, great idea...you go to work all day and then donate your money to the mom and dad that lay on the couch all day doing meth and smoking cigarettes....
The liberals ARE the people laying on the couch all day, doing meth and smoking cigarettes.

The progression is to change voluntary assistance, into moral obligation, and then into coerced taxation to support the laziest and least productive.

SofaKing

Ellijay, GA

#94 Jul 15, 2012
Reality wrote:
<quoted text>The liberals ARE the people laying on the couch all day, doing meth and smoking cigarettes.

The progression is to change voluntary assistance, into moral obligation, and then into coerced taxation to support the laziest and least productive.
I'm liberal, I have 2 jobs, and I attend school full time. Cautious of your blanket labeling, sir.

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