UAW members walk off the job, idling GM

UAW members walk off the job, idling GM

There are 284 comments on the The Indianapolis Star story from Sep 24, 2007, titled UAW members walk off the job, idling GM. In it, The Indianapolis Star reports that:

Strike: United Auto Workers Local 23 members walked off their jobs at GM's Indianapolis Metal Plant at 11 a.m. Monday, singing the union anthem "Solidarity Forever." - Charlie Nye / The Star What's at stake? * ...

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Tony Stewart fan

Ashland, KY

#1 Sep 25, 2007
GO BACK TO WORK! There is no reason -- none whatsoever -- that the workers can't stay in the factories while GM & the UAW try to hammer this thing out. This strike is a bunch of crap, and the leadership of the UAW knows it!
patriot

Indianapolis, IN

#2 Sep 25, 2007
I have a purdue engineering degree and work in the Health Care Field. I have never seen the wages that these people including my own brother make and the benefits well they are far better than my own. I wish the strikers the best of luck and I hope they get what they need. However, the reality is that I don't get any healthcare after retirement except medicare medicaid if it is still around. I have never seen double or triple overtime and I would be jailed if I were to strike. I think the good old days are gone.
nighthawk

AOL

#3 Sep 25, 2007
As much as I hate to admit it, the America we grew up in has changed so drastically we will never again see middle class wages returning to this country. The stratification of the wealth this country has created assures that 1% of Americans continues to amass larger shares of the wealth produced by working Americans.(See Edward Wolff's writings on this topic) We may complain about people who still make a living wage capable of allowing a family of 4 to get by on 1 wage but at what cost? We have young mothers who are forced to take a job to make ends meet, our babies and toddlers being herded into daycare centers where we hope they are getting good care but we know it's not the same as a mother could give. Do you really think our social ills don't have something to do with this phenomena? We're in an era where mothers are being forced to apologize for their own motherhood. I am not saying women should not work. I am saying I think the fact that most families cannot get by with one living wage when it is in the best interest of society for them to have that option, is something that was socially engineered in this country. Get more people in the workforce and pay them less. Encourage barndoor immigration from our southern border to help drive down wages and continue to brainwash the public into thinking "all unions bad,$14.00 an hour good". I'm terribly ashamed for America that our young American workers are inheriting this sorry mess. And the saddest truth of all is a young blogger is reading this right now and thinking, 14 bucks an hour rocks!
unions backer

Pittsboro, IN

#5 Sep 25, 2007
I'm sure you who are complaining about them striking would love a gm car to cost half,lets import foreign workers or better yet outsource gm to another county, I'm sure you don't see the problem with the top execs of the company making 100 times the workers wages and them still crying poor either. Lets make sure we degenerate into a county of have and have nots and no middle class at all.
Frank

Monon, IN

#6 Sep 25, 2007
unions backer wrote:
I'm sure you who are complaining about them striking would love a gm car to cost half,lets import foreign workers or better yet outsource gm to another county, I'm sure you don't see the problem with the top execs of the company making 100 times the workers wages and them still crying poor either. Lets make sure we degenerate into a county of have and have nots and no middle class at all.
I love my Honda.
hey yall watch this

Crown Point, IN

#7 Sep 25, 2007
How many of these stricking workers will survive this for a few weeks or a few months? Very few I doubt. Most are probably living paycheck to paycheck and 200 bucks a week is not going to cut it. You think foreclosures are bad now. The best part is I bet the union leaders aren't going to be living on 200 bucks a week. Go back to work. Has anyone seen the people on tv they interview? These people will be lucky if they can land a job at walmart when they lose these jobs.
Robert Mullett

Ashburn, VA

#8 Sep 25, 2007
With all the give backs and losses for the auto workers, Has the price of the automobile gone up or down? All the concessions from the auto workers resule in more profit for the auto industry and raises to its upper echelon.
Mr Lucas

Louisville, KY

#9 Sep 25, 2007
patriot wrote:
I have a purdue engineering degree and work in the Health Care Field. I have never seen the wages that these people including my own brother make and the benefits well they are far better than my own. I wish the strikers the best of luck and I hope they get what they need. However, the reality is that I don't get any healthcare after retirement except medicare medicaid if it is still around. I have never seen double or triple overtime and I would be jailed if I were to strike. I think the good old days are gone.
What are you trying to say? That because you don't get it, they shouldn't either? Or that because you have a big-time degree, you deserve it more? Maybe you are a little jealous?
John Galt

Cincinnati, OH

#10 Sep 25, 2007
UAW: Thank you for helping me to stop the motor of the world.

If you were really thought union workers are more productive, you wouldn't be bargaining for job guarantees. Instead of bargaining for rights you have not earned, you should be bargaining for pay tied to productivity. You should be bargaining for GM to agree to invest X dollars in your plants so that you can be more productive.

The more you try to gain rights and money without earning it, the more you force GM to go to Mexico. Viva GM!
John Galt

Cincinnati, OH

#11 Sep 25, 2007
unions backer wrote:
I'm sure you who are complaining about them striking would love a gm car to cost half,lets import foreign workers or better yet outsource gm to another county, I'm sure you don't see the problem with the top execs of the company making 100 times the workers wages and them still crying poor either. Lets make sure we degenerate into a county of have and have nots and no middle class at all.
I'd love for GM workers to become more productive and EARN the premium wages. The company can't give you money that your job hasn't created for them.

For what it's worth, I agree with you that the top managers are looting the company the same as the union. Pity that you don't bargain to lower their salaries to match THEIR pitiful performance. Instead you bargain to loot your share.

Incidentally, GM cars seem about as well-designed as I have ever seen them.
John

Burbank, CA

#12 Sep 25, 2007
GM needs to just say good by to the UAW. Get rid of the union and the problem goes away. Union stink there not worth much.
gravy train over

United States

#14 Sep 25, 2007
take a look at the rest of the us, nobody still has the benefits this union guys have.... I have been without health insurance for 10 yrs, I can't afford it. Let them pay for there own for awhile........
bid

Lapel, IN

#15 Sep 25, 2007
unions backer wrote:
Lets make sure we degenerate into a county of have and have nots and no middle class at all.
Wake up...it's already become a country without a middle class under the Bush administration.
First thought

AOL

#16 Sep 25, 2007
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>I love my Honda.
Do you realize how anti-American you are? I always wonder about our so-called leaders and why they would make decisions that hurt the country. Here you are, promoting the lowering of wages and benifits of GM workers and stating you love your forign car. Why do you want American workers working for slave labor or even going out of business entirely? Why? Please share your thinking.
Toyota For Me

Florence, KY

#17 Sep 25, 2007
For the past two weeks I have beens shopping for a new truck. I have mostly been looking at Chevy but also some GMC and Dodge and Toyota.

With these strike the UAW are trying to ensure future employment oblivious to the fact that no one, not GM not the UAW, can guarantee future work because it is completely dependent on the number of people who want your product. The number of people who want your product depends on the quality of your product. As someone who has been paying very close attention to the quality so I make a wise investment I can say with absolute certainty that GM/Chevy does not make the best truck.

And now that these UAW members think they deserve more even though the quality of their work is declining it is apparent that they are selfish brats concerned only with themselves. Rhey don't care that their demands will at the very least drive up the cost of autos.

I will be buying the Toyota Tundra today.

“Fighting Against Stupidity”

Since: Aug 07

Ingalls, IN

#18 Sep 25, 2007
Unions have become the cancer of capitalist society. All they do is take and take until the host is dead, which is where GM is headed as they teeter on the brink of bankruptcy. They tout themselves as champions of the worker, but in reality they are slayers of employers. It is time to rewrite the labor laws and let union membership be voluntary, rather than compulsory.
pragmaticus

Dallas, TX

#19 Sep 25, 2007
As a nation enjoying one of the highest standards of living in the world, our Achilles heel is, malignant, parasitic entitlement, the antithesis of basic gratitude.

Plenty of people in the world are hungry for a fraction of the standard of living we enjoy, and are not yet spoiled in their ability to be grateful for that. It's no wonder jobs go overseas to that population. Free markets prove, here, to be the great charitable equalizer so elusively sought before by centralized economies such as communism.

How sad to see an American workforce striking against a company already drowning from the albatross of entitlement about its neck. How like a physician from an earlier century … trying to cure anaemia with further blood letting.

I find this article to be a useful reference:
http://www.lindseywilliams.org/Editorial_Arch...
Dirk Diggler

Brookston, IN

#20 Sep 25, 2007
UAW workers need to realize that they can't expect an upper middle class income for doing assembly line work, and rather poorly at that. Sure the company executives make too much money. So do the union leaders.

Unions promote underachievement.
Mr Lucas

Louisville, KY

#21 Sep 25, 2007
John Galt wrote:
<quoted text>
.....
For what it's worth, I agree with you that the top managers are looting the company the same as the union. Pity that you don't bargain to lower their salaries to match THEIR pitiful performance. Instead you bargain to loot your share.
If you were familiar with the National Labor Relations Act, you would know the answer. Unlike employee wages and benefits, the employer is not required to bargain over their wages and benefits.
Rusty Trombone

Marysville, OH

#22 Sep 25, 2007
First thought wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you realize how anti-American you are? I always wonder about our so-called leaders and why they would make decisions that hurt the country. Here you are, promoting the lowering of wages and benifits of GM workers and stating you love your forign car. Why do you want American workers working for slave labor or even going out of business entirely? Why? Please share your thinking.
I love my USA made toyota!

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