33,000-penny property tax payment refused

There are 20 comments on the WTVG story from Aug 28, 2010, titled 33,000-penny property tax payment refused. In it, WTVG reports that:

A businessman who tried to pay a property tax bill with 33,000 pennies got turned down by a county treasurer in Washington state, who said she didn't have the staff to count them.

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“....VETS”

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#1 Aug 28, 2010
good for her , but she should have made him count it out , the smart azz, he owed it and then he takes his spite out as a child would great business man , evey one blames the government
Mike Kelley

United States

#2 Aug 28, 2010
But I must ask is a penny not U.S. currancy any more. If you can't pay a bill with them quit giving them to me.

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#3 Aug 28, 2010
Mike Kelley wrote:
But I must ask is a penny not U.S. currancy any more. If you can't pay a bill with them quit giving them to me.
mey be render as legal tender for all debts PUBLIC,PRIVATE , but doesn't have to be accepted

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#4 Aug 28, 2010
after thought suppose I paid your wages in pennies ? would you be happy ?
Glasnos

Fabens, TX

#5 Aug 28, 2010
tallyho wrote:
after thought suppose I paid your wages in pennies ? would you be happy ?
Happy? No ... Is it legal? Yes. You would have disgruntled employees ... and have a difficult time keeping and hiring employees ... but if that is how you want to run your business...
I don't think the government has any right to refuse legal tender that they themselves put into circulation. Your local hardware store can ... but not government.

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#6 Aug 28, 2010
Glasnos wrote:
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Happy? No ... Is it legal? Yes. You would have disgruntled employees ... and have a difficult time keeping and hiring employees ... but if that is how you want to run your business...
I don't think the government has any right to refuse legal tender that they themselves put into circulation. Your local hardware store can ... but not government.
you have some truths , but some misconceptions , employers must get Federal permission to pay any one in cash , why well thank the drug wars for that , money laundering , as well as avoiding taxes extra ....

it isn't the federal government , but the state and state rights to self rule ... let me see you pay cash say for car rental , and i'm retired but the point of the exercise is do unto others

the person got what he wanted his 15 minutes

last but not the least some goverment loans/state/ etc etc can be paid back in barter ...example a medical student serve in a community center

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Indianapolis, IN

#7 Aug 28, 2010
I would take them, tell him to go have a seat, to not leave until his receipt is ready, and then I'd spend 5 minutes an hour the rest of the day to count them a few at a time.

If I didn't get all of them counted by close of business, I would dump them back into his buckets, apologize for not having gotten done, and told him to come back tomorrow.
Glasnos

Fabens, TX

#8 Aug 28, 2010
tallyho wrote:
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you have some truths , but some misconceptions , employers must get Federal permission to pay any one in cash , why well thank the drug wars for that , money laundering , as well as avoiding taxes extra ....
it isn't the federal government , but the state and state rights to self rule ... let me see you pay cash say for car rental , and i'm retired but the point of the exercise is do unto others
the person got what he wanted his 15 minutes
last but not the least some goverment loans/state/ etc etc can be paid back in barter ...example a medical student serve in a community center
I would challenge the federal government to enforce such a rule as no legal government tender for work done. I doubt it would pass the smell test in court.
Secondly, a private enterprise is under no constraints to accept anything in payment for their ptoducts or services they don't want. If I wish to only accept gummy bears for pony rides, that is my perogative.
Loper

Richmond, CA

#9 Aug 28, 2010
One, two, three, four

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#10 Aug 28, 2010
What a colossal waste of time this man spent procuring and counting all this change for a lousy 34.00. His business didnít have a measly 34.00 to pay a bill? And heís on the city council? Well Iíd take the advice of Uncle Fester on this one and just simply shoot him in the back. Itís not cowardly to shoot a man in the back if the manís just a POS.

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#11 Aug 28, 2010
Glasnos wrote:
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I would challenge the federal government to enforce such a rule as no legal government tender for work done. I doubt it would pass the smell test in court.
Secondly, a private enterprise is under no constraints to accept anything in payment for their ptoducts or services they don't want. If I wish to only accept gummy bears for pony rides, that is my perogative.
How many? And for how long?
Heather

Toronto, Canada

#12 Aug 28, 2010
A bank here refused to take pennies when my ex went to change them in for bills. The store refuses them when you go to buy a loaf of bread. But then I heared a news story the treasury ( sp) was concerned about pople hoarding them!
Ray

South Milwaukee, WI

#13 Aug 28, 2010
Mike Kelley wrote:
But I must ask is a penny not U.S. currancy any more. If you can't pay a bill with them quit giving them to me.
The courts have ruled that protest payments like this don't have to be accepted. In fact, if I remember correctly, no one has to accept payments of over something like $2 in pennys.
Brad

Cumberland, MD

#14 Aug 28, 2010
yernogoood- wrote:
What a colossal waste of time this man spent procuring and counting all this change for a lousy 34.00. His business didnít have a measly 34.00 to pay a bill? And heís on the city council? Well Iíd take the advice of Uncle Fester on this one and just simply shoot him in the back. Itís not cowardly to shoot a man in the back if the manís just a POS.
I'm not sure where this person learned to add, but 33,000 pennies is $330.00 not $34.00.
scott

Oakvale, WV

#15 Aug 28, 2010
it is law that the payer is responsible for rendering payment in the largest amount possible, like say you can give 4 pennie's but if you have a nickel your supposed to use that, not be a smart a**, there is a law about it. i bank can refuse service like exchanging pennies for dollar bills, but they can not refuse a deposit of said pennies. i've been there when i was turned down to exchnge my chnage, so i looked at her and asked if i could deposit them, the teller was not happy but had to do it anyhow then i with drew my cash, lol, but the law does state you do not have to accept a million pennies for payment, it can be refused.

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#16 Aug 28, 2010
Glasnos wrote:
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I would challenge the federal government to enforce such a rule as no legal government tender for work done. I doubt it would pass the smell test in court.
Secondly, a private enterprise is under no constraints to accept anything in payment for their ptoducts or services they don't want. If I wish to only accept gummy bears for pony rides, that is my perogative.
please do not practice law, read first , I never said constraint , I implied , a barter system is totally legal here in the USA. and who said , you have to charge for a product or service , not I ,says me

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#17 Aug 28, 2010
Heather wrote:
A bank here refused to take pennies when my ex went to change them in for bills. The store refuses them when you go to buy a loaf of bread. But then I heared a news story the treasury ( sp) was concerned about pople hoarding them!
the bank did not refuse . they were loose you have to wrap them or pay a fee to have the bank usr its sorter

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#18 Aug 28, 2010
Brad wrote:
<quoted text>I'm not sure where this person learned to add, but 33,000 pennies is $330.00 not $34.00.
Well I saw that too but I figured the rest was in fines so who was I to dispute this guys math? On the other hand.......

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#19 Aug 28, 2010
They do take cash. He paid with cash. They didn't specify exactly what kind of cash to use.

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#20 Aug 28, 2010
Sad to say, as another mentioned here, that the gov can dictate what kind of payment they will indeed, take.

I remember years ago, in the late 70s, a guy welding a check on a big sheet of metal and taking it to the courthouse to pay a fine.

Don't remember the outcome but I do remember it making the local paper.

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