[TV] Teen Mom 2 Star Leah Messer Cries About Divorce on Camera

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Feb 8, 2012
 
Ocean56 wrote:
<quoted text>Well, you're entitled to have your OPINION, just as I have the right to express mine.

I'll continue to disagree that shows like TM glamorize teen pregnancy and motherhood. The really HARD lives of these girls sure don't look "glamorous" to me. I think these shows help teens see just how HARD being a mother in high school really is, and as a result, might just decide NOT to have sex with immature boyfriends. I'm very glad that I was NOT a teen mom, and I'm sure many other teen girls are glad they DON'T have babies as well.
That was posted to "just the truth". Post your "OPINIONS" all you want, but please refrain from using me in your reply. Just post so I don't have to see it
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Feb 8, 2012
 
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JusttheTruth, I obviously neglected to mention that ANY protection is better than using no protection at all IF some teens are going to have sex. I should have made that clear in my previous post, but I didn't. My bad, and my apologies for the oversight.
That being said, it is also a fact that NO birth control method, including condoms or birth control pills, is 100% GUARANTEED against unwanted pregnancy. Yes, there are BC methods that have 90%, 95% and even 99% success rates, but none of them have a 100% success rate. Which means there is STILL the chance that unwanted pregnancy can occur. There are women who HAVE gotten pregnant, even using birth control pills. Is ANY form of protection better than none at all for teens who have sex? Absolutely. Can that protection guarantee that a teen will NEVER get pregnant? Nope.
So, in my view, any teen that is even THINKING about having sex needs to know that unwanted pregnancy can and DOES happen occasionally, even when using condoms or birth control pills (or another female contraceptive). That is why I never had sex as a teenager, because I didn't WANT to be a teen mom and have all my dreams of a post-high school education and great job offers go up in smoke. Because I never had sex as a teenager, I didn't end up getting pregnant and being a teen mom either.
From my own experience I can definitely say that life tends to be MUCH easier for teens, especially girls, when they DON'T have babies.
From your experience? Did you get pregnant as a teen so you really understand it or did you not get pregnant as a teen so you understand your version of reality? Just seeking clarification on that point.

So birth control isn't 100% effective, it shouldn't even be considered? Really? If the doctor told you that you were dying but had a 96% chance of living if you took a special pill, would you? Of course you'd take it. People go through horrendous chemo/radiation treatment for a 20 % or less chance of living. Therefore, what you seem to be saying is if there is a small chance of pregnancy, birth control shouldn't be discussed with teens as it might cause them to engage in sex? You, Ocean 56, are using faulty logic.
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Just the Truth wrote:
<quoted text>From your experience? Did you get pregnant as a teen so you really understand it or did you not get pregnant as a teen so you understand your version of reality? Just seeking clarification on that point.

So birth control isn't 100% effective, it shouldn't even be considered? Really? If the doctor told you that you were dying but had a 96% chance of living if you took a special pill, would you? Of course you'd take it. People go through horrendous chemo/radiation treatment for a 20 % or less chance of living. Therefore, what you seem to be saying is if there is a small chance of pregnancy, birth control shouldn't be discussed with teens as it might cause them to engage in sex? You, Ocean 56, are using faulty logic.
I have heard the argument that providing teens with birth control or educating them about it supposedly encourages sexual activity but I disagree. Giving the abstinence talk doesn't seem to work at all since there are "primal urges" as you previously put it. Just because you tell them about it or provide it doesn't mean they will have sex, but it doesn't mean they will use it either.
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Feb 9, 2012
 
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That was posted to "just the truth". Post your "OPINIONS" all you want, but please refrain from using me in your reply. Just post so I don't have to see it
Since Topix is a PUBLIC forum, I can reply to whomever I choose. Sorry (not really) if you have issues with that.

Also, there's no ignore feature on this forum, so you'll just have to scroll right past my posts if you don't like reading them.
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From your experience? Did you get pregnant as a teen so you really understand it or did you not get pregnant as a teen so you understand your version of reality? Just seeking clarification on that point.
So birth control isn't 100% effective, it shouldn't even be considered? Really? If the doctor told you that you were dying but had a 96% chance of living if you took a special pill, would you? Of course you'd take it. People go through horrendous chemo/radiation treatment for a 20 % or less chance of living. Therefore, what you seem to be saying is if there is a small chance of pregnancy, birth control shouldn't be discussed with teens as it might cause them to engage in sex? You, Ocean 56, are using faulty logic.
Okay, I'm going to answer your questions by number in order to be as clear as possible.

1. NO, I did NOT get pregnant as a teenager, and thank goodness for that. I didn't get pregnant because I didn't take the chance by having sex. Therefore, I stayed a free teen and was able to graduate high school then go on to vocational school. After completing vocational school, I got a good full-time job offer at a great company. All of that would NOT have been possible for me if I'd had sex, gotten pregnant and then become a teen mom.

2. If it didn't say it before (and I believe I did), I'll say it again; OF COURSE birth control should be used to prevent unwanted pregnancy. ANY protection against it is always better than none at all.

However, I also said that even when using birth control, there is STILL the possibility a teen girl can get pregnant. NO contraceptive is 100% GUARANTEED to prevent pregnancy, so it is a serious mistake for a teen girl to believe she can't ever get pregnant if she uses birth control.
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<quoted text>Since Topix is a PUBLIC forum, I can reply to whomever I choose. Sorry (not really) if you have issues with that.

Also, there's no ignore feature on this forum, so you'll just have to scroll right past my posts if you don't like reading them.
I'm sorry (not really) that you're a delusional, hateful, passive aggressive, hypocritical, dried up old spinster
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<quoted text>Okay, I'm going to answer your questions by number in order to be as clear as possible.

1. NO, I did NOT get pregnant as a teenager, and thank goodness for that. I didn't get pregnant because I didn't take the chance by having sex. Therefore, I stayed a free teen and was able to graduate high school then go on to vocational school. After completing vocational school, I got a good full-time job offer at a great company. All of that would NOT have been possible for me if I'd had sex, gotten pregnant and then become a teen mom.

2. If it didn't say it before (and I believe I did), I'll say it again; OF COURSE birth control should be used to prevent unwanted pregnancy. ANY protection against it is always better than none at all.

However, I also said that even when using birth control, there is STILL the possibility a teen girl can get pregnant. NO contraceptive is 100% GUARANTEED to prevent pregnancy, so it is a serious mistake for a teen girl to believe she can't ever get pregnant if she uses birth control.
This whole post is hypocritical to your prior posts. Your arrogance and narcissism shine through. Teen moms do not have an automatic failed future, just more difficult.

Of course abstinence is the only 100% fool proof way to avoid pregnancy, but telling a teen "no" doesn't work. Adults that are sexually active use BC to avoid pregnancy...why? Because it works 99 times out of 100!

Again, the whole teen mom drama is old and tired. I'm done debating with ignorance like yourself.
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I'm sorry (not really) that you're a delusional, hateful, passive aggressive, hypocritical, dried up old spinster
You can BELIEVE whatever you want, be it about me or anyone else. It doesn't matter what you believe, since beliefs AREN'T facts.
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This whole post is hypocritical to your prior posts. Your arrogance and narcissism shine through. Teen moms do not have an automatic failed future, just more difficult.
Of course abstinence is the only 100% fool proof way to avoid pregnancy, but telling a teen "no" doesn't work. Adults that are sexually active use BC to avoid pregnancy...why? Because it works 99 times out of 100!
Again, the whole teen mom drama is old and tired. I'm done debating with ignorance like yourself.
So according to YOU, it is "arrogance and narcissism" just to disagree with you? That's really funny, thanks for the chuckles.:)

Obviously, teens who do decide to have sex need to use some form of protection against unwanted pregnancy, whether condoms or another method. ANY form of protection is better than none at all, no question about it.

HOWEVER, all teens need to know that NO birth control method is going to eliminate the risk of pregnancy entirely. Birth control REDUCES the risk of unwanted pregnancy. It does NOT eliminate it. Even with a method that may be 98% or 99% effective, there is STILL the 1% or 2% chance, small as it is, that pregnancy could occur. So it is still a serious mistake for a teen girl to believe she "can't ever get pregnant" because she's on birth control.

I also realize that teen moms don't have an "automatic failed future, just more difficult." I'd rather see ALL teen girls AVOID that "more difficult" part, because that is a huge understatement. I'd much rather see all teen girls (and guys too) be FREE teens rather than teen parents whose lives will be ten times harder because a baby made it extremely difficult, if not impossible, for them to complete all levels of their education and get good full-time employment. Every time a teen has sex, it is still taking a chance that pregnancy CAN happen. That IS a fact, whether you or others want to believe that or not.
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For anyone who is interested, this additional site on teen pregnancy PREVENTION looks pretty good.

http://www.itsyoursexlife.com
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Ocean56 wrote:
<quoted text>You can BELIEVE whatever you want, be it about me or anyone else. It doesn't matter what you believe, since beliefs AREN'T facts.
Just as all the opinions and beliefs you've posted aren't facts either. You're very welcome (not really) for the chuckles!
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<quoted text>So according to YOU, it is "arrogance and narcissism" just to disagree with you? That's really funny, thanks for the chuckles.:)

Obviously, teens who do decide to have sex need to use some form of protection against unwanted pregnancy, whether condoms or another method. ANY form of protection is better than none at all, no question about it.

HOWEVER, all teens need to know that NO birth control method is going to eliminate the risk of pregnancy entirely. Birth control REDUCES the risk of unwanted pregnancy. It does NOT eliminate it. Even with a method that may be 98% or 99% effective, there is STILL the 1% or 2% chance, small as it is, that pregnancy could occur. So it is still a serious mistake for a teen girl to believe she "can't ever get pregnant" because she's on birth control.

I also realize that teen moms don't have an "automatic failed future, just more difficult." I'd rather see ALL teen girls AVOID that "more difficult" part, because that is a huge understatement. I'd much rather see all teen girls (and guys too) be FREE teens rather than teen parents whose lives will be ten times harder because a baby made it extremely difficult, if not impossible, for them to complete all levels of their education and get good full-time employment. Every time a teen has sex, it is still taking a chance that pregnancy CAN happen. That IS a fact, whether you or others want to believe that or not.
You're basically repeating me and the things you've already posted prior. Duh! People can get pregnant regardless. Of birth control! Duh! Its better to use it than nothing! Duh! Teen moms have a more difficult journey! Who doesn't want to see their kids be "free teens" and have an easier path to success? Thanks for your "opinion" yet again captain obvious! Duly noted!
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Ocean56 wrote:
For anyone who is interested, this additional site on teen pregnancy PREVENTION looks pretty good.

http://www.itsyoursexlife.com
www.plannedparenthood.org is also an amazing resource! It's not directed simply towards teen pregnancy nor just prevention but has it all! Its been a great resource for me personally! I'm sure there are many more in addition to these two
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who="bella christian"]well, hope it could go well
my signature: churchfriends.com Are her parents good people ? How far is Mullens from Elkview ?
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who="bella christian"]well, hope it could go well
my signature: churchfriends.com Are her parents good people ? How far is Mullens from Elkview ?
About an hour and 45 minutes, why do you ask?
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Mar 28, 2012
 
Dee are you from Mullens? my husband's family his hint the last name. i would guess her parents are good people. they do love their children.
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#209
Jun 10, 2014
 
Shes a dumb bitch that the world made dumber. Thanks tv for making these worthless teenagers feel really important further damaging their thought process as if society isnt terrible enough lets encourage kids to have kids. None of them deserves babies at all!

Thus raising the next generation of an ignorant stupid society.
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#210
Jun 10, 2014
 
Did leah cut her hair
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#211
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Leah i feel sorry for your daughter i.wish they can find a cure for that
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#212
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Seriously, what's the deal with her hair!!! Damn I thought she was in beauty school!!!!

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