Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

There are 330427 comments on the Newsday story from Jan 22, 2008, titled Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision. In it, Newsday reports that:

Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.

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“Pro-Life”

Since: Dec 10

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#282147 Feb 5, 2013
elise in burque wrote:
<quoted text>I don't agree with you.
There you go:-)
^^Great discussion you're having, there, Elise. Your "equal exchange of ideas" is so enthralling. Very worth the read.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#282148 Feb 5, 2013
A lot of assumptions, but no real data. It really doesn't matter how a woman gets pregnant; she doesn't have to stay pregnant. It's quaint that you think pleasure need to be punished.

There most certainly is safe sex--I taught it for years. It's just that most heteros are too frigging lazy to learn or use it.

Laws are not there to enforce your morality; they are there to protect our rights.
Gtown71 wrote:
<quoted text>
When People choose to have sex, They assume all wrist that come along with it. You know as well as I do that most people who get pregnant don't even use contraceptives. Most abortions come from a 1 night stand or a very short term relationship.
People want pleasure without any negative ramifications,but that is not how life works. If there was no God, it would work that way, but people would not like that very much either. It would mean someone could rape,murder, or both and be just fine.
People want to condemn others, and at the same time get away with whatever they choose.
Contraceptives was introduced to try to fix a problem.
- They did not fix anything.
All they did was send a message to most the sex could be safe, but as you and I both know there's no such thing as safe sex.
I'm not trying to impose laws,that says everyone must live according to the Bible, since I know full well that most people never live according to the Bible.
This is the whole reason why Jesus Christ came.
We needed a savior,and still do.
I also do not believe we should make laws that condone that behavior,and even "add to " the bad behaviors.
No sex, is worth the killing of life.
Motherhood is optional, but abortion only makes a woman the mother of a dead child.

Since: Jun 08

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#282149 Feb 5, 2013
lil Lily wrote:
<quoted text>
Since when have you been here to discuss abortion, Toots? You've spent the majority of your time posting snipes at PLers. Now you want us to believe you want "an equal exchange of ideas"? Fat chance that would come from you, especially since you would need equal intelligence, knowledge of facts and sense to the PLers. You're at a disadvantage, and no ideas coming from you would be equal in those areas. All of you has the disadvantage, and the exchange of ideas with any of you would never be equal. Everything coming from you PC is ignorant, senseless and uninformed.
You are welcome to speak your opinion as often as you like, dear. However, unless you are also the poster to whom I replied, I was responding to his comment, specifically. Why not let him speak for himself? He seems to have the ability to type. You know, it's not always about you, honey.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

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#282150 Feb 5, 2013
lil Lily wrote:
<quoted text>
" Women who have never married and are not cohabiting account for 45% of all abortions [6]
About 61% of abortions are obtained by women who have one or more children.[6]"
In previous post you said,
Bitner: "Incorrect. Less than half of all abortions are performed on women who are not married, or living with someone, at the time."
The stats on your link are about "never" married and not living with someone at time of abortion.
The other stats on your link about 1 or more children does NOT state whether or not those women have been married and were then (divorced or widowed)= SINGLE when they had an abortion. So, you're still not correct, and haven't proven that you are. You can't guess and say those women were married or living with someone when they went for an abortion, just because they had children.
Bitner: "Wrong. Biologically, she is pregnant. Biology does not say she's a mother. You're full of shit, Troll."
You're the one full of shit if you think you can deny that the relation of a pregnant woman to the human life in her womb (talking biologically here), is that human life's mother. You're an uneducated fool if you really believe that.
My post had nothing to do with the stat about "1 or more children". Stop deflecting.

LOL, you are full of shit, Troll. Go crawl back under your bridge.

Since: Jun 08

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#282151 Feb 5, 2013
lil Lily wrote:
<quoted text>
We can prove it, but people need a conscience and sense of humanity to be able to recognize the proof. You never will recognize it.
No, you can't prove that abortion is wrong. That's just your personal philosophy. You're constantly blabbing about how all you want is facts. Let's see some facts proving that abortion is wrong. Proof, dear. Facts, honey. You made the rule for yourself. Play by your rules, woman.
Katie

Auburn, WA

#282152 Feb 5, 2013
lil Lily wrote:
<quoted text>
Bitner: "Incorrect. Less than half of all abortions are performed on women who are not married, or living with someone, at the time."
You have no stats on whether or not women are "living with someone", and you're wrong about ["less than half"] "...of all abortions are performed on women who are not married."
A site from your own PC camp says "83% unmarried". Do you need to be told that's more than half? These stats pretty much say SINGLE women.(unmarried, never married, divorced and widowed) all means single women. You have no stats on how many are "living with" a man, and guessing isn't proof. You can only go by what it states.
http://www.prochoice.org/about_abortion/facts...
"Marital Status
Most women getting abortions (83%) are unmarried; 67% have never married, and 16% are separated, divorced, or widowed.4 Married women are significantly less likely than unmarried women to resolve unintended pregnancies through abortion.6"
Bitner: "Only if the pregnant woman already has children, having given birth to them, or adopting them, is she a mother. Otherwise, she is a mother-to-be, and if she has an abortion, the "to be" will not be."
That's opinion, Toots, and not a fact. Biologically, she is a mother when pregnant, her child is in utero.
FROM YOUR LINK

"Education, Residence, and Income
----> Of the women obtaining abortions in 2000: <-----

57% had some college education;
88% were from metropolitan areas; and
57% percent were low-income.4
Marital Status
Most women getting abortions (83%) are unmarried; 67% have never married, and 16% are separated, divorced, or widowed.4 Married women are significantly less likely than unmarried women to resolve unintended pregnancies through abortion.6"

Wouldn't it have been pertinent of you to make sure you were in the current reporting period? You did not prove Bitner wrong, dolly.
Katie

Auburn, WA

#282153 Feb 5, 2013
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
My post had nothing to do with the stat about "1 or more children". Stop deflecting.
LOL, you are full of shit, Troll. Go crawl back under your bridge.
She didn't even prove you wrong, Bitner. Bet she's crushed now. She showed numbers from the year 2000, not the current reporting year which is what? 2009 or 2010? I think 2009, but not positive.

Since: Jun 08

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#282154 Feb 5, 2013
lil Lily wrote:
Never will, Elise, so long as there's no conscience or sense of humanity about your own abortion that killed your own unborn child.
What happened to your pride in posting only facts to prove your claims? Yeah, okay... Pfft
Katie

Auburn, WA

#282155 Feb 5, 2013
lil Lily wrote:
<quoted text>
You're the one full of shit if you think you can deny that the relation of a pregnant woman to the human life in her womb (talking biologically here), is that human life's mother. You're an uneducated fool if you really believe that.
You sure have a strange perspective, dolly. Of course the relation is important. It's what gives women the civil right to determine their own outcome. By determining their own outcome, they are determining the ZEF's outcome. That's a given. It doesn't deny anything.

It is your side's false premises trying to deny women their civil rights to determine their own pregnancies and the fates of their offspring. Women can morally, legally, and emotionally accept or reject pregnancy without any interference by clergy, the gov't, or nosy parkers like you.

“Pro-Life”

Since: Dec 10

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#282156 Feb 5, 2013
Foo: "LiIrabbitfoofoo wrote:
<quoted text>
Lynne, what's NOT RELEVANT is you trying to make the claim that any email's of yours that I'd post are lies BEFORE I EVEN POST THEM. ROFLMAO!"

Just to let the bumbling buffoon know:

It doesn't matter whose e-mails they would be. If it's a claim about ANYONE you dislike, there's no doubt you would alter any e-mail to serve your lying agenda here. That's the point you aren't intelligent enough to get. The point has nothing to do with it being specifically e-mails from Lynne. Lynne has nothing to do with my posts and all to do with yours and what you claim...and it just so happens it's your stupidity about Lynne. My posts are about YOU, not about Lynne. Your posts are all about your obsession with her.

I would say the very same things if you were obsessing about Sassy, Doc, NR etc. if you would claim proof of something they supposedly said was in e-mails with you. LOL, you're credibility with people who have integrity in discussion is non-existant. We would NOT believe you wouldn't alter ANY e-mail from ANY pro-lifer you once e-mailed with and hate now. You're a FOOL if you think otherwise.

The issue for me has never been WHO your posts, accusations, lies are about. The issue for me has always been your lies posted here on any topic, and the stupidity you use to try to prove something that's irrelevant to everything here, and which only displays your desperation to deflect from the lies you got caught in posting here. The deflections which don't prove you're telling the truth about anything.

E-mails, pics off the internet, pics of houses, people etc. ALL are POINTLESS here, no matter WHO the person is that you're trying to prove something about. Why?

Because you can't prove you didn't alter e-mails. You can't prove the pics you claim are of the people or places you claim. All you accomplish with that kind of insanity is proving you're a mental case.

You posted a pic of Stephen King's gate. What do you think you proved with that? lol I mean seriously, what do you think you proved? All you proved to everyone posting here is that you can take shit off the internet and use it as your avatar, as we all can. You're such a nutcase, you can't see reason about irrational your actions here.

Let's say you posted a pic of a house, and claim it's Lynne's house. So? What are proving by doing that? You take a pic of a house, claim it's Lynne's house and what proving you're telling the truth that it's really Lynne's house? NOTHING. What are you proving if it really would be Lynne's house? NOTHING. So what if you and she e-mailed. It still would never serve to prove that any e-mails you have from ANY pro-lifer you e-mailed with wouldn't be altered by you if you chose to post them here.

E-mails aren't proof of anything here. Rational people understand that and understand why, and none of us has to be Lynne to get that. We just need to have some sense and reason.

Since: Jun 08

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#282157 Feb 5, 2013
Hey, folks. Let's not get facts mixed up with personal morals. I understand that some of you feel that abortion is morally wrong. However, moral philosophies aren't factual evidence, either against or for abortion rights.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

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#282158 Feb 5, 2013
Katie wrote:
<quoted text>
FROM YOUR LINK
"Education, Residence, and Income
----> Of the women obtaining abortions in 2000: <-----
57% had some college education;
88% were from metropolitan areas; and
57% percent were low-income.4
Marital Status
Most women getting abortions (83%) are unmarried; 67% have never married, and 16% are separated, divorced, or widowed.4 Married women are significantly less likely than unmarried women to resolve unintended pregnancies through abortion.6"
Wouldn't it have been pertinent of you to make sure you were in the current reporting period? You did not prove Bitner wrong, dolly.
Good call. She's so full of shit.
Gtown71

United States

#282159 Feb 5, 2013
elise in burque wrote:
<quoted text>If you feel abortion is wrong, you may have to work out your feelings about having had one. Most women who have abortions know what they are doing. They don't have anything to feel badly about.
I know you truly want to believe that this is true, but it isn't.
Many women regret having an abortion.

I've never helped anyone in this matter, and I even admit, that for years I was "for " abortion.
There was a time, that I would've helped and condoned abortion.

Abortion and many other issues were changed in me, when the Holy Spirit of God moved in, and my soul was saved.

Many women tell a different story about what all they knew they were getting into. Many suffer from depression and other negative issues, becouse of abortion, even suicide, so no, not all women knew full well what they were getting into, and not all women are ok with it.

Many were pressured into an abortion, in the same way ocean says many are pressured into having babies.

Plus an unborn child, is just that a child, infant, baby.
And yes the bible says so.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

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#282160 Feb 5, 2013
Katie wrote:
<quoted text>
She didn't even prove you wrong, Bitner. Bet she's crushed now. She showed numbers from the year 2000, not the current reporting year which is what? 2009 or 2010? I think 2009, but not positive.
LOL, and even her stats showed that the other's claims about "one night stands" was baseless.

“Pro-Life”

Since: Dec 10

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#282161 Feb 5, 2013
No e-mail posted by you, Foo, no matter who you claim it's from, would ever prove your claim here about "mutual abuse".
Proving you e-mailed with Lynne still would never prove that.

So every single thing you said and did, posting King's gate trying to claim it's a picture Lynne took; the impotent "threat" of posting a picture of her house; and the impotent "threat" of posting e-mails is all IRRATIONAL.

No matter what you post, it still won't ever prove your claim of mutual abuse. Unless you can provide something posted HERE in the forum that you can link, your claim is unproven.

“Pro-Life”

Since: Dec 10

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#282162 Feb 5, 2013
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL, and even her stats showed that the other's claims about "one night stands" was baseless.
I wasn't posting anything about the "one night stands" claim. But about your claim, "...Less than half of all abortions are performed on women who are not married, or living with someone, at the time."

My stats and yours proved your claim was wrong.

“2014 TDF”

Since: Mar 09

Boca Raton, FL.

#282163 Feb 5, 2013
Doc Degall wrote:
<quoted text>
It's what I've been saying all along F. Lee.
Doc, if you changed your socks as often as you change what you've "been saying," I wonder whether you tow a Walmart store behind you when you walk.

Post 274777:

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/abortion/T833...

How convenient of you to add the word "exclusively."
Doc Degall wrote:
You haven't got the patience my ass. You know it doesn't exist. If you thought it did, you'd find the patience alright.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Doc Degall wrote:
No, I don't think I'll live with it just because YOU don't have the balls to go back and look for posts that don't exist.
Nice try Doc. You'd better curtail that shit with your sock puppet Lynne.
Doc Degall wrote:
Reverting my position ? You don't have to lift a finger ball-less. I'll find the posts that show what my position has been all along.
You do that.
Doc Degall wrote:
You're really saying that my position has been the same as chicky's, Tinker Bell's, moncie, bitter, katie, et al ? Is THAT what you're saying ? That viability is defined as the ability to survive WITHOUT medical assistance ? That if a preemie requires medical assistance it cannot be viable ?
Is that what I'm saying?

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

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#282164 Feb 5, 2013
lil Lily wrote:
<quoted text>
I wasn't posting anything about the "one night stands" claim. But about your claim, "...Less than half of all abortions are performed on women who are not married, or living with someone, at the time."
My stats and yours proved your claim was wrong.
No, they did not. You only proved you had to dishonestly post old stats to find those that said differently than mine. They ALSO proved me right when I told the other poster there were no stats on "one night stands", so that his claim was baseless.

“Pro-Life”

Since: Dec 10

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#282165 Feb 5, 2013
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
My post had nothing to do with the stat about "1 or more children". Stop deflecting.
LOL, you are full of shit, Troll. Go crawl back under your bridge.
I wasn't deflecting, because I flat out proved you WRONG, with your own link.

YOU claimed, "Incorrect. Less than half of all abortions are performed on women who are not married, or living with someone, at the time."

"who are not married"

The stat that was relevant to your claim was the following, and it stats "NEVER" married. Which means, that stat AND the other about 1 or more children,(measning they could have BEEN married before, but nothing stating they were at time of abortion), did not prove your claim was correct.

Women who have never married and are not cohabiting account for 45% of all abortions [6]

You're the one posting bullshit lies and then arguing about it. I'm posting the facts. That's a fact, Jack.

“Pro-Life”

Since: Dec 10

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#282166 Feb 5, 2013
Katie wrote:
<quoted text>
FROM YOUR LINK
"Education, Residence, and Income
----> Of the women obtaining abortions in 2000: <-----
57% had some college education;
88% were from metropolitan areas; and
57% percent were low-income.4
Marital Status
Most women getting abortions (83%) are unmarried; 67% have never married, and 16% are separated, divorced, or widowed.4 Married women are significantly less likely than unmarried women to resolve unintended pregnancies through abortion.6"
Wouldn't it have been pertinent of you to make sure you were in the current reporting period? You did not prove Bitner wrong, dolly.
Why don't you learn to keep your nose out of discussions you don't know anything about? Yes, I proved Bitner wrong, and used her own link to do it.

You only make others look as ignorant and senseless as you make yourself look when you try to stand up for them.

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