Students heckle parents of Philadelph...

Students heckle parents of Philadelphia teen over T-shirt incident

There are 19 comments on the Philly.com story from Oct 5, 2012, titled Students heckle parents of Philadelphia teen over T-shirt incident. In it, Philly.com reports that:

Angered by a teenager's claims of being humiliated by a teacher over a Romney/Ryan T-shirt, students at Charles Carroll High School ignored warnings from administrators and shouted obscenities out school windows at the girl's parents Friday morning.

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straightlinescro okedteach

Pottstown, PA

#1 Oct 6, 2012
Do the math. Verbally harrassing a student in front of her peers should be professional misconduct if nothing else. Attempting to physically write on the student's T shirt is assault. If I were the parents I'd file criminal charges with the police. A school is supposed to a place of learning but apparently the teacher, the alledged adult in the classrom never learned how to grow up, courtesy, respect and acceptance of alternative opinions. Nor to keep her hands to herself.

I always felt high school math teachers are the worst & weakest part of the public high school teaching profession. It always shows in state, national and international test scores. Never had a good math teacher until college.

The real scary part is the other students blind loyalty to this teacher harrassing the girls father. Either these students like that because she does joke around alot rather than teach geometry or they are getting good grades and geometry knowledge from this 'teacher'.
Carla

Philadelphia, PA

#2 Oct 8, 2012
This is an unfortunate situation, and clearly the teachers were wrong. However, it might all be avoided by not allowing t-shirts (especially those of any type endorsement) to be worn to school. It would be less-distracting--they are there for an education. Return to the days of dress code.

Usually in senior high, politics are discussed in history or civics classes. It is not the job of teachers to sway anyone, they are there to educate and need to remain neutral. Discussion is important, and it is good for students to be able to express their views and they should not be critisized or harrassed either.
Richard M Popielarz

Philadelphia, PA

#3 Oct 9, 2012
I wish the 1970's were now, so that I could sue and bring charges against history teacher Mark McGovern and LaSalle College High School for the Polish jokes and painful ridicule of my parents' & relatives wartime suffering, as well as denial of my enrollment in AP History in the basis of by parents' birthplace and my Polish ethnicity. That is why I don't go to any reunions and don't contribute to the alumni fund. I have too many bad memories that have never been resolved and I have never been made whole following my experiences at the hands of despicable bigots (teachers & students alike) and insensitive administration.
Richard M Popielarz

Philadelphia, PA

#4 Oct 9, 2012
Correction: ...on the basis....
straightlinescro okedteach

Pottstown, PA

#5 Oct 9, 2012
Richard M Popielarz wrote:
I wish the 1970's were now, so that I could sue and bring charges against history teacher Mark McGovern and LaSalle College High School for the Polish jokes and painful ridicule of my parents' & relatives wartime suffering, as well as denial of my enrollment in AP History in the basis of by parents' birthplace and my Polish ethnicity. That is why I don't go to any reunions and don't contribute to the alumni fund. I have too many bad memories that have never been resolved and I have never been made whole following my experiences at the hands of despicable bigots (teachers & students alike) and insensitive administration.
The classroom is about power and acceptance for too many teachers including many college 'professors'. In high school especailly it's about power and acceptance for most teachers.

Too many teachers rely on the student's smarts and not their teaching ability to 'teach' or present their material. Most high school math teachers in particular can't teach or trouble shoot where the students might be having problems. I heard AP teachers boast and bragg how they only had to give their students the book and they were done.

I had a high school math teacher ask why I was bothering still taking math as junior when I wasn't planning an engineering major in college and yet the shool told us the minimum math requirements for most colleges irregardless of major. Long story short if they have to do more work than collect assignments or 'present' material they balk.

High School was probably the only time most teachers ever had fun, status or success. Why work in the outside world in a much less controlled enviorment when you get guaranteed status and power as a teacher. But this is where the real problem is for many teachers-little or no real world experience. This teacher if not fired in a large company would've been suspended, forced to take sensitivity training and/or anti discrimination classes ie eeo training in most companies. I don't even know if this teacher has something in their file yet.
Carla

Philadelphia, PA

#6 Oct 9, 2012
Richard M Popielarz wrote:
I wish the 1970's were now, so that I could sue and bring charges against history teacher Mark McGovern and LaSalle College High School for the Polish jokes and painful ridicule of my parents' & relatives wartime suffering, as well as denial of my enrollment in AP History in the basis of by parents' birthplace and my Polish ethnicity. That is why I don't go to any reunions and don't contribute to the alumni fund. I have too many bad memories that have never been resolved and I have never been made whole following my experiences at the hands of despicable bigots (teachers & students alike) and insensitive administration.
Richard, I am sorry you had to endure such hateful remarks. Young people often do not know what to do when in a situation like that and it is terribly wrong and unfair for an adult, especially in such as a position as a teacher, clergyman, or anyone with "authority or power" to behave like that. I believe that teachers need to do more than teach sometimes, they need to be role models. I don't know why an adult would want to set that type of example, it is unacceptable in my eyes. I hope you can be proud of your heritage as an adult now--contrary to some of the stereotyping, Polish people are intelligent, hard working and good people. My grandfather was born there and my grandmother was born in this country but also Polish. They are gone now, but I still recall the days of family and polkas!
Carla

Philadelphia, PA

#8 Oct 10, 2012
I find your comments to be very insulting, hateful and untrue. Practically all of us, unless you are American Indian have roots off these shores. White trash? I absolutely resent that remark. I do care that some teacher made fun of him especially since this has affected him for so many years. People that make these cruel and nasty remarks regarding race, nationality, gender, etc, have some serious insecurities and must feel threatened. The only way you (they) can feel good about themselves is to try and degrade someone else. There is no way they can "look good" to others on their own achievments because there aren't any!!
Carla

Philadelphia, PA

#10 Oct 10, 2012
No one just "gets over" abuse, whether it is verbal or physical. Bullying is not something you just forget, either. Being different does not give anyone the right to attack someone and depending upon the severity, can lead to a lifetime of self-doubt and pain. You may view your remarks as funny or clever but that is the only thing I see here as being pathetic.
Richard M Popielarz

Philadelphia, PA

#12 Oct 11, 2012
Orkney wrote:
STFU, pay attention to your dork children, you filthy skank. I hope cool kids make them come home from school crying. They are the type of losers who get picked on day in and day out.
Better yet, why don't you and this Popliearz Pole go play accordion and get taken over by the Nazis in 3 days. Who the F cares about some pathetic Polish loser who is whining about being picked on decades ago? What a worthless piece of dog feces. Get the F over it or he will have something to really cry about.
He deserved being picked on because he isn't fit to reproduce. Either cut that Pollocks balls off or convince him to step in front of a train. What a loser!
Come and say that to my face, Dorkney, so I can rearrange your smile and make an emergency dental appointment for you. You aren't fit for the sacred Earth to carry you, you hateful lump of shit!
Orkney

Chicago, IL

#13 Oct 11, 2012
Richard M Popielarz wrote:
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Come and say that to my face, Dorkney, so I can rearrange your smile and make an emergency dental appointment for you. You aren't fit for the sacred Earth to carry you, you hateful lump of shit!
Shaddup you loser. You were a loser then and you're a bigger loser now.

Look at the dumb Slav get angry! The whole class is laughing at you! The girls tease you because you are a polish loser.
Richard M Popielarz

Philadelphia, PA

#14 Oct 11, 2012
Orkney wrote:
He's a dumb pollock. He needs to get over his decades old high school bullying incidents and ge on with his pathetic Slavic life. He can get fat and eat kielbasa all day long, that'll keep him busy.
I would bet that my life has been more fulfilling and valuable than yours based on my unfortunate experience from bigots like you with whom this country is sadly brimming. That's why the loudest cries abroad are "Yankee, go home!" - because normal people detest arrogance, especially that which is not backed by intelligence & refinement. As for your perception of Poles, and Slavs in general, do some research and find out the scientific & cultural contributions we have made without being brash & crude like you, you skid row empty barrel!
Richard M Popielarz

Philadelphia, PA

#15 Oct 11, 2012
Orkney wrote:
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Shaddup you loser. You were a loser then and you're a bigger loser now.
Look at the dumb Slav get angry! The whole class is laughing at you! The girls tease you because you are a polish loser.
Losers? Who saved the lives of American CIA operatives by spiriting them out of Iraq after Operation Desert Storm in 1991? Polish intelligence operatives & diplomats by disguising the Yanks as drunken Polish oil rig workers returning overland via Turkey. Who saved innumerable American & British downed aviators and POW escapees during World War II? Losers? No, the Polish Underground. So, shut the fuck up!!! Nazis like you tasted Polish bayonets 70 years ago!
Steve Gratman

Chicago, IL

#16 Oct 11, 2012
Richard M Popielarz wrote:
<quoted text>...Polish intelligence...
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!! No such thing, pollock! LOL!!!

Drunken Polish men? Now that part I believe!!!
straightlinescro okedteach

Pottstown, PA

#17 Oct 11, 2012
Uh, I thought this was about teachers who bully.
Carla

Philadelphia, PA

#18 Oct 11, 2012
Like having a discussion with a gnat.
wilma fingerdu

Norristown, PA

#19 Oct 12, 2012
Steve Gratman wrote:
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BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!! No such thing, pollock! LOL!!!
Drunken Polish men? Now that part I believe!!!
Ill-annoying? you gotta stop trolling the topix boards already & get some new material. it's the same repeated garbage from your PWT a$$. move yer 50yr old a$$ outta your momma's basement already & grow a pair, get a job, & contribute to society instead of being a welfare burden. shmuck.
wilma fingerdu

Norristown, PA

#20 Oct 12, 2012
oh wait, let me get that reply ill-annoying.."stfu you slav.." blah blah, look in that mirror instead of sniffing from it once & a while would ya?! that pale dude staring back at you ain't no man. I'll leave you to figure the rest out now.

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Kmicic

Philadelphia, PA

#23 Oct 13, 2012
Steve Gratman wrote:
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There's a good bit of whiney Pollocks on this forum.
Are they all this stupid? The Pollocks I mean, not the forums.
Gratman, I see that you have a Polish-Jewish name. Do you know what the word "grat" means in Polish? Junk. "Man" speaks for itself. So, Steve Junkman, what other worthless tripe do you have to share with the world, you Einstein with one cancerous brain cell?
Chrobry

Wilmington, DE

#26 Jan 16, 2014
Steve Gratman wrote:
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BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!! No such thing, pollock! LOL!!!
Drunken Polish men? Now that part I believe!!!
How is your HATRED, today, Chosen One?

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