Mentally ill woman wins fight to stay in nursing home

The state of West Virginia tried to kick her out, but a judge has ruled that 77-year-old Helen Shank gets to stay at Golden Living Center in Morgantown.

[HumanSpirit]

Since the West Virginia DHHR and the mental health industry compromised this woman's and the ability to care for herself by providing bogus mental health services and prescription mind drugs to which the mental health industry had no test for chemical imbalance, no medical model and no evident based medicine (EBM) and the diagnoses was based solely on hearsay of the mental health workers: The government should be responsible along with the DHHR and mental health industry for her care.

[Red Pill]

HumanSpirit wrote:

Since the West Virginia DHHR and the mental health industry compromised this woman's and the ability to care for herself by providing bogus mental health services and prescription mind drugs
<repetitive, debunked Scientology garbage snipped>

Would you care to accuse a specific person of malpractice in this case? Didn't think so, because you know that would be libelous.

[henn]

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[HumanSpirit]

Red Pill wrote:

<quoted text>Would you care to accuse a specific person of malpractice in this case? Didn't think so, because you know that would be libelous.

Not a Scientologist.

Who do you think should be liable for the damages done to this elderly woman?

[Red Pill]

HumanSpirit wrote:

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Not a Scientologist.
Who do you think should be liable for the damages done to this elderly woman?

Thats what I'm asking you, quit trying to deflect. You're making allegations, I want to know who YOU are making them about specifically.

[Daisy]

This is SOOO sad.

[Mad Dog 54]

HumanSpirit wrote:

Since the West Virginia DHHR and the mental health industry compromised this woman's and the ability to care for herself by providing bogus mental health services and prescription mind drugs to which the mental health industry had no test for chemical imbalance, no medical model and no evident based medicine (EBM) and the diagnoses was based solely on hearsay of the mental health workers: The government should be responsible along with the DHHR and mental health industry for her care.

Try showing proof if you don't want to be accused of libel and slander...

[HumanSpirit]

Apparently you don't have the comprehension of the judicial order.

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CHARLESTON, W.Va.-- The state of West Virginia tried to kick her out, but a judge has ruled that 77-year-old Helen Shank gets to stay at Golden Living Center in Morgantown.

Kanawha County Judge Tod Kaufman ruled on Wednesday that Medicaid must continue providing nursing home care for Shank, who is mentally ill and also a "brittle diabetic," according to court papers.

Kaufman overruled a decision by the West Virginia Department of Health and Human Services to take federal Medicaid benefits away from Shank, despite recommendations by several of her physicians and psychiatrists.

The case could have implications for other seniors with mental illness living in nursing homes, according to Shank's lawyer, Daniel Staggers of Keyser.

Shank has lived in the Golden Living Center since October 2004. But last year, a DHHR evaluator said she no longer qualified for nursing home care.

The DHHR decision to deny Shank long-term care benefits was upheld by State Hearing Officer Thomas E. Arness on October 20.

After that ruling, Kaufman issued a retraining order against DHHR on December 26, preventing the agency from taking Medicaid benefits away from Shank while her legal appeal before him was pending.

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DHHR can appeal Kaufman's ruling to the state Supreme Court, but has not done so yet.

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Other legal positions that may be considered is that the medication over the years caused her diabetes and dementia. That may be forth coming in the lawsuit.

She won't be able to sue the State of West Virgina but the State could be ordered to take care of her for the rest of her life.

If a wrong diagnoses was made by an independent mental health advisor to the state the independent advisor would shoulder the financial responsibility.

[Mad Dog 54]

No, Human Spittle, I'm talking about the 'bogus mental health services' and 'mind drugs' you claim, but are NOWHERE in the article...

[Red Pill]

You won't make any allegations about any certain person regarding this case because you know I would contact them about your libel.

[HumanSpirit]

Red Pill wrote:

You won't make any allegations about any certain person regarding this case because you know I would contact them about your libel.

It's an industry problem. Besides, you can't sue the government.

[Mad Dog 54]

Funny, you started out by trying to implicate the government(see post#1).

[Red Pill]

HumanSpirit wrote:

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It's an industry problem. Besides, you can't sue the government.

If its an industry problem, then you shouldn't be trying to hijack this thread about a specific incident. If you want to call someone a fraud, grow a pair and actually do it. You won't be found guilty of libel if the wog courts agree with you.

[Red Pill]

HumanSpirit wrote:

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Besides, you can't sue the government.

Thats a profoundly ignorant statement; Of course you can sue the government. Given the vast nature of this conspiracy you believe in, I would suggest filing in federal court.

Try it HS, and see how long they put up with your straw man arguments and CCHR propaganda.

[HumanSpirit]

Mad Dog 54 wrote:

No, Human Spittle, I'm talking about the 'bogus mental health services' and 'mind drugs' you claim, but are NOWHERE in the article...

Do you suppose that the mental health industry just talked to the woman after all those years?

Any one with knowledge knows that the mental health industry is the distribution arm of the pharmacutical industry.

[Mad Dog 54]

HumanSpirit wrote:

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Do you suppose that the mental health industry just talked to the woman after all those years?
Any one with knowledge knows that the mental health industry is the distribution arm of the pharmacutical industry.

First, meds have become a necessity in this day and age, although I will concede that at times they are over-prescribed. More importantly, the only knowledge that makes your connection is paranoia or CCHR propaganda...

[HumanSpirit]

Mad Dog 54 wrote:

<quoted text>First, meds have become a necessity in this day and age, although I will concede that at times they are over-prescribed. More importantly, the only knowledge that makes your connection is paranoia or CCHR propaganda...

Not parinoid at all. Not a Scientologist.

I mentioned this before:

There has been "No" biological defect found for any mental illness or any of the other made to order diagnoses by any neurological study.

Without a test for chemical imbalance the mental health (psychiatry) is limited in the ancillary tests of medicine like an EKG, EEG, blood work or other tests in the diagnoses of a patient. They aren't needed in Psychiatry.

The psychiatric diagnosis is made on the basis of behavior and hearsay.

If we respect metabolic changes based on daily dietary habits, weight gain / loss , terms of the survival of the organisms as a person age along with physical conditioning, physical illness, electrolyte level, gender differences , body temperature, I don't see where the Mental Health and Counseling Industry could conform to any consistency in data with consideration to the above to state a person has a mental disease or illness based on chemical imbalance.

Psychiatry is not recognized in the sciences.

APA Admits there is no test for "chemical imbalance"

http://www.webwire.com/ViewPressRel.asp...

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Death by mind drugs:

http://ssristories.com :80/index.php

Here's a couple of cartoons to make you laugh

http://www.naturalnews.com/cartoons/mental_tr...

http://www.naturalnews.com/cartoons/psychiatr...

[ignorance]

you people are talking about a human life!!!heck maybe someone should put her in a sack and throw her in the river..what happened to the compassion?