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Since: Nov 09

Wytheville Va.

#22 Oct 3, 2011
Kevin wrote:
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Seriously man, you crack me up. Do you have any idea how many historians refer to the Bible as documented history? Have you ever even read it? How more accurate could history be than when it's written down by the people it happened to? So are you saying that Israel wasn't divided into 2 separate kingdoms thousands of years ago? Was Solomon not the richest king who ever lived? Has Jesus not been documented in thousands of different manuscripts during the time he was alive and after He died - including those who aren't Christian writings? He was prophesied in the Old Testament and fulfilled every single prophecy that was written thousands of years before He came. I just don't see your basis of denying historical facts. Perhaps if you spent a little less time online looking at biased atheist articles and blogs you might actually have a clear conscience so you can come up with your own conclusions.
There was a little green fairy that lived in a water tower that was painted like a balloon. It often visited a hot dog restaurant that served little red wieners that was located on Main street in a town called Wytheville. Often it would go tubing between Ivanhoe and Austinville on the New River. Afterwards it would stop in Fort Chiswell at a place that had golden arches and eat a huge sandwich called a Big Mac.

Here you go, historians hundreds of years from now will be able to prove that all of these places existed, so the little green fairy must be real.

Christians = sheep baaaahhh
Unknown Messenger

Talisay, Philippines

#23 Oct 8, 2011
That is why they created the word 'Faith' We may not be able to prove if it really happened or not we just have to put our 'Faith' in it. Hebrews 11:1 'Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.' Ephesians 2:8 'For by grace are we saved through FAITH; and that not of yourselves: it is a gift of God:'

So you guys can believe anything you want, that's why God gave us free will. But I would rather die believing that I will go to heaven because Christ died for me, then die not believing in anything at all.

And also King James didn't translate the Bible, the Bible was translated during his reign.
Dan Ana

Great Neck, NY

#29 Nov 25, 2011
KJV is perfect

use it
Passing Stranger

Stockton, CA

#30 Dec 18, 2011
OK so I was looking for info on which version of the bible an atheist should read for the best understanding of the texts (between the NLT and NASB). I have found from reading this that I need to read the damned thing at least twice now, because while the KJV is full of mistranslations and alterations, it would appear it is the version that those I converse with will likely consider to be the holy one. This makes no sense to me at all, but I suppose it stands as another easy example of the lack of rationality on the subject.
A few things I find myself incapable of not commenting on. Firstly, GodsOutlaw1964, The translation being different does not make it wrong, it's faithfulness to the source material makes it a better or worse translation, and the NASB is regarded as the most accurate word for word.
Chars_web, same as above but I would like to add that the idea of the trinity being one (a strange dance with polytheism) was not introduced until Augustine of Hippo, who was born in 354 CE. As such the origional texts would not refer to the trinity in such a manner, the KJV phrasing is an alteration made (1600 years after the alleged time of Christ) to make the text better support an important piece of dogma that the church had created along the way.
Kevin, you are so very wrong it hurts my brain. I don't mean this in the way that the irrationality of religion always bothers me, I mean that no one in academia regards the bible as a historical text. Sophisticated theologians and clergymen have never regarded the text in this manner, but as a series of allegories meant to convey a truth about the divine or the world, on multiple levels. The theologian is to be able to read the allegory and extrapolate the meaning, the commoner is meant to internalize the story and take it as proof of its moral, which would be explained by the clergyman (as the average person could not read). More importantly still, there are no legitimate historical references to Jesus made by historians in his alleged time. There are a few references to a christ, but not of any miracles preformed, and of course christ is a title, not a name. "Christus" or "The anointed one" could have been referring to any number of people, the term only became synonymous with Jesus after the cult of Jesus became the Roman state religion hundreds of years later.
Unknown Messenger, faith does not change the truth, and self deception is rarely healthy. If wanting to believe something made it the case than I should hope the world would be a very different place.
Anyway, if anyone ends up here for the same reason I did, I would recommend NASB and KJV just to make sure you have your bases covered. And to those of you I addressed (if you are monitoring this still for whatever reason), I assume, perhaps unjustly, that you will be set in your ways and will see my information to the contrary to be in some way aggressive. Please do not mistake my desire for clarity on the issue as mean-spiritedness. While I do resent the organization of religion I do not feel hatred towards individual practitioners, and would take no joy in saying something just to upset them.
Jsheets

Noblesville, IN

#31 Jan 17, 2012
Well I can point to a verse that it alone would confuse someone and we know God is not the author of cunfusion...but the devil is. Here it is Daniel 3:25 King James Version
He answered and said , Lo, I see four men loose , walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God. look at the last part of this verse..." and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God..." would you agree we have ONE GOD? Here are some examples from other version on this verse....New International Version
He said, "Look! I see four men walking around in the fire, unbound and unharmed, and the fourth looks like a son of the gods."

New Living Translation
"Look!" Nebuchadnezzar shouted. "I see four men, unbound, walking around in the fire. They aren't even hurt by the flames! And the fourth looks like a divine being !"

American Standard Version
He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the aspect of the fourth is like a son of the gods.

New American Standard
He said, "Look ! I see four men loosed and walking about in the midst of the fire without harm, and the appearance of the fourth is like a son of the gods !"

This enough for me not to trust other versions....do I hear an AMEN?
GodsOutlaw1964 wrote:
Gods Grace and Peace. I guess this is as good as place as any to start a thread on a Controversial subject.
But I'm 101% King James Version, and have found anything outside of the KJV is a counterfeit.
one example,
1 Tim.3:16 (KJV)'And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh,'
1 Tim. 3:16 (NIV, NASB, etc)'Beyond all question, the mystery of godliness is great:
He appeared in a body'.
The Noun ( A Person,Place,or thing )'God' is changed to a Pronoun ( Describes a Person, Place, or Thing) to 'He'
'He' could mean anyone.
Bibiana

Saint Petersburg, FL

#33 Mar 11, 2013
I agree with the person who said that the message of the Bible is more important than dissecting every word or analyzing every little passage to death. I also feel that having translations in various reading levels is a good thing.God's message was meant to be UNDERSTOOD. When King James made his translation, THAT was their common, everyday English. I feel that many people could be reached if they have a Bible in THEIR everyday language.
Ron

Shreveport, LA

#34 Jun 5, 2013
The KJV is the only version Ive read where I dont feel satan's fingerprints on it at all. I believe it is 100% inspired by God/Holy Spirit. There's tons of lies about it these days because satan knows how great it is. He knows millions of people have come to Christ by reading its pages for all these centuries. God will not let the devil destroy His Word. God is in total control of everything. How could He not be?! For Him to have created the whole universe tells me He's in total control of all things. What awesome power the Lord God has. All the planets, stars, solar systems and everything in space to exist the way it does is way beyond anything our minds can fathom. People often shrink God down to just dealing with our planet, when earth is practically microscopic when compared to the size of the universe. How amazing it is that this huge powerful God came to earth as one of us in the person of Jesus Christ!!
Ron

Shreveport, LA

#35 Jun 5, 2013
Bibiana wrote:
I agree with the person who said that the message of the Bible is more important than dissecting every word or analyzing every little passage to death. I also feel that having translations in various reading levels is a good thing.God's message was meant to be UNDERSTOOD. When King James made his translation, THAT was their common, everyday English. I feel that many people could be reached if they have a Bible in THEIR everyday language.
NO! The language of the KJV was not the everyday english of that day. It had been about 200 years since people were using "thee, thou, and thine,etc." Modern versions have tons of errors and contradictions, so they shouldnt be used.
buns and hoses

Cambridge, MA

#36 Jun 5, 2013
its silly to go exactly by the bible, for example, eating shellfish is forbidden

Leviticus 11:9-12 says: 9 These shall ye eat of all that are in the waters: whatsoever hath fins and scales in the waters, in the seas, and in the rivers, them shall ye eat.
10 And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you:
11 They shall be even an abomination unto you; ye shall not eat of their flesh, but ye shall have their carcases in abomination.
12 Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination unto you. Deuteronomy 14:9-10 says: 9 These ye shall eat of all that are in the waters: all that have fins and scales shall ye eat:
10 And whatsoever hath not fins and scales ye may not eat; it is unclean unto you.
BWAHAHA

Knoxville, TN

#37 Jun 7, 2013
KJV
Brigham Young

Rustburg, VA

#38 Jun 8, 2013
The Book of Morman
Moses

Rustburg, VA

#39 Jun 8, 2013
The Torah
Muhammad

Rustburg, VA

#40 Jun 9, 2013
The Quran
stephen

Ghana

#41 Aug 14, 2013
Well solomon was an adulterer... ArchBishop Duncan Williams in Ghana was an Armed Robber, Even the Popes who have passed have their stories. Now their story doesn't change the word of GOd. Greek or Hebrew... King James Version is the Closest to it literal Meaning. THat is the power of GOd...
Aaron Hudson

Canton, GA

#42 Aug 19, 2013
I could not agree more.

If you read the Bible like a book... You have already missed the message.

Learn Hebrew and Arabic... You will soon learn that the Spirit is not linguistics, logistical, or legalistic...

C.S. Lewis said it best: "reading the Bible is a meeting place with God, your creator".

It is not a book in any translation fit for cursory debate.

Peace,

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