Teenage pregnancy
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yeppie

Little Elm, TX

#1 Dec 5, 2012
What is the deal with the alarming rate of teenage pregnancy in the area? Oklahoma has one of the highest teenage pregnancy in the nation. I have noticed a trend around here that whenever a teenage girl gets pregnant they act like it is a good thing ( Oh, having my baby was the best thing that ever happened to me etc.). I suppose that if you are already pregnant (and for whatever reason you don't want to have an abortion) that attitude is the best thing you can have. However, I also think that this attitude has influenced girls to the point where they don't see or understand the socioeconomic impact of teenage pregnancy and how it can negatively affect their lives. I am wanting to gauge the community's opinion on this matter. Why do you think this is? Could it be a lack of comprehensive sexual education in schools? Could it be the high level of religiosity in the area influencing teenagers to not use contraceptives? Could it be a cycle (child's mother had her at 15, child has baby at 15 etc.)? Could it be that young girls around here don't realize that they are their own independent person, they can take care of themselves instead of having to have a guy take care of them from a young age? Could people around here just be stupid?
Anyways, thank you for your opinion and God bless!
I wants a baby too

United States

#2 Dec 5, 2012
"Teen Mom" tv shows can't be helping.
erm

Indiahoma, OK

#3 Dec 5, 2012
I think alot of it is.. the whole oh look at the cute lil clothing, and all the cute lil toys, oh and we can have a baby shower (yaay party!!) and i can get out of school, and be the center of attention. and we'll have such cute babies, and we'll be a cute lil family and we'll be together forever!! And most know (or atleast think they know) that their families will be there to help them.
And its not just the girls. not that im saying their innocent in it, in the end its their decision. but alot of guys like the idea of being someones baby's daddy.
At least this is the way it was when i was in high school.
YOU are stupid

Cedar Rapids, IA

#4 Dec 6, 2012
yeppie wrote:
What is the deal with the alarming rate of teenage pregnancy in the area? Oklahoma has one of the highest teenage pregnancy in the nation. I have noticed a trend around here that whenever a teenage girl gets pregnant they act like it is a good thing ( Oh, having my baby was the best thing that ever happened to me etc.). I suppose that if you are already pregnant (and for whatever reason you don't want to have an abortion) that attitude is the best thing you can have. However, I also think that this attitude has influenced girls to the point where they don't see or understand the socioeconomic impact of teenage pregnancy and how it can negatively affect their lives. I am wanting to gauge the community's opinion on this matter. Why do you think this is? Could it be a lack of comprehensive sexual education in schools? Could it be the high level of religiosity in the area influencing teenagers to not use contraceptives? Could it be a cycle (child's mother had her at 15, child has baby at 15 etc.)? Could it be that young girls around here don't realize that they are their own independent person, they can take care of themselves instead of having to have a guy take care of them from a young age? Could people around here just be stupid?
Anyways, thank you for your opinion and God bless!
Please don't act like you're attempting to solve an epidemic crisis when all you are really trying to do is belittle and degrade people. And, to end your post that is filled with rude comments with "God bless" is priceless. Get a life so you're not so worried about everyone elses!
Ignorance

Hobart, OK

#5 Dec 6, 2012
As the old cliche goes....

It takes 2!

I mean really what is with all these young men going around getting girls pregnant. Is it a lack of education, do they think the clothes are cute, are they too religious to wrap up their dicks!

Just sayin ;) let's teach our young men responsible as well!
hmmm

Elk City, OK

#6 Dec 6, 2012
I am in my early 30's now, but I had my first daughter at 18 when I was a senior in high school. I was fortunate enough to have a good family who was willing to help so I could still graduate. When I got pregnant again, when my oldest was 6 months old, I my parents kicked me out and I was on my own. Being a single mom was NOT easy. I me my now husband when my second child was 4 months old and we had 2 more kids together. By the time I was 22 years old I was married and had 4 kids. My husband and I struggled greatly for the first few years of our marriage. I made my own life choices, and had to take care of my own responsibilities. I'm not complaining, just letting these girls know its not easy. If the high school would allow some kind of program where people who have been there done that could come talk to these kids I would be more than happy to come tell my story from teen mom, to drug addiction to losing my kids and fighting to get my life straight and getting them back. My story isn't a pretty one, but it does have a happy ending and maybe it could be a wake up call for some of these teens who think that parenthood is all rainbows and sunshine.
yeppie

Little Elm, TX

#7 Dec 6, 2012
YOU are stupid wrote:
<quoted text>Please don't act like you're attempting to solve an epidemic crisis when all you are really trying to do is belittle and degrade people. And, to end your post that is filled with rude comments with "God bless" is priceless. Get a life so you're not so worried about everyone elses!
I don't think that I am being rude at all. It's a serious problem and it seems like it's a lot worse around here than in other places. The problem won't go away without talking about it. Anyways, thanks to everyone else for your good answers!
te

Clinton, OK

#8 Dec 6, 2012
Having the "the sex talk" could help.
Also making sure your kids are being responsible and watched over. Some parents around here don't care. My family owned the skating rink and parens just drop there kids off wearing short shorts / low cut shirts / pounds of make up.
The kids aren't to blame 100% it's the parents also.
I have my son at 17 it's was hard but I got luck an have a great husband that had a good job an raises our son with respect.
I'm 19 now and I work late and sometimes I have to go on main . You know the "drag". There are 12- 13- 14 year olds smoking. We're are there parents, probably out at The palace .
me

Elk City, OK

#9 Dec 6, 2012
te wrote:
Having the "the sex talk" could help.
Also making sure your kids are being responsible and watched over. Some parents around here don't care. My family owned the skating rink and parens just drop there kids off wearing short shorts / low cut shirts / pounds of make up.
The kids aren't to blame 100% it's the parents also.
I have my son at 17 it's was hard but I got luck an have a great husband that had a good job an raises our son with respect.
I'm 19 now and I work late and sometimes I have to go on main . You know the "drag". There are 12- 13- 14 year olds smoking. We're are there parents, probably out at The palace .
I agree. And it needs to be done when they are young so they understand the risks involved before they become sexually active!!
YOU are stupid

Omaha, NE

#10 Dec 6, 2012
yeppie wrote:
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I don't think that I am being rude at all. It's a serious problem and it seems like it's a lot worse around here than in other places. The problem won't go away without talking about it. Anyways, thanks to everyone else for your good answers!
"Could people around here just be stupid?" to quote your post....nope not rude at all. I feel certain that you are the same person (using a different post name) that enjoys degrading the general population of western Oklahoma on several other threads. Face it -you moved here-you chose to stay here-you're an Okie now. So, don't be so quick to put down your own kind.
agreed

United States

#11 Dec 6, 2012
YOU are stupid wrote:
<quoted text>"Could people around here just be stupid?" to quote your post....nope not rude at all. I feel certain that you are the same person (using a different post name) that enjoys degrading the general population of western Oklahoma on several other threads. Face it -you moved here-you chose to stay here-you're an Okie now. So, don't be so quick to put down your own kind.
Wow I haven't posted in days, nice for you to accuse everybody of being me though. My sister had a child when she was 18, and went on to law school and became a lawyer. She had goals. So I can't overgeneralize and say that every teenager who becomes pregnant will grow up to be a welfare collector. But a majority of teenagers want to have babies because it reminds them of "playing with baby dolls" as a child, and they think that it will make them popular. Little do they realize that babies don't stay babies forever, and that raising a child requires hard work, money, and goals. If your only goal after having a child is to enroll them in soonercare, collect foodstamps, and ask the government to help you with housing and utility expenses, then you may have had a child for the wrong reason. I'm a firm believer that the number of people who lack a high school education are having children at a far more alarming rate than those who have a college education. The more children you have, the more welfare you receive. A middle class, working couple is not going to have 10 kids. They won't be eligible for welfare, and chances are they won't be able to pay out of pocket for medical expenses, food, rent, utilities, clothes, etc. So what does this mean. This means that in 20 years, the majority of the population will be composed of people whose parents had 10 kids in order to be able to collect more welfare. And the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. I'm sure they will grow up to have the same "sense of entitlement". But who knows whether welfare will be around in 20 years, hopefully it won't. Welfare was created solely to help people in a time of crisis, it wasn't meant for people to make a lifestyle out of it. And that goes for people across the country, not just in Oklahoma. Our country is trillions of dollars in debt. Do you think it was the hard-working, tax-paying, citizens who got us here?
agreed

United States

#12 Dec 6, 2012
Unless you are an extremely motivated teenager, who has goals and is determined to actually do something with your life so that you can provide for your child, I think it is a disgrace. Teenagers should not be having children because they are high school dropouts who don't want to work, and think that after having a child they will get a free ride from the government.
yeppie

Little Elm, TX

#13 Dec 6, 2012
YOU are stupid wrote:
<quoted text>"Could people around here just be stupid?" to quote your post....nope not rude at all. I feel certain that you are the same person (using a different post name) that enjoys degrading the general population of western Oklahoma on several other threads. Face it -you moved here-you chose to stay here-you're an Okie now. So, don't be so quick to put down your own kind.
While I do admit I was being a tad bit insensitive asking that, it's still a valid question. Oklahoma ranks 10th in the nation for teenage pregnancy and 41st for the highest IQ. There is a strong correlation between lower IQs and higher rates of teenage pregnancy per capita. I didn't move here from anywhere, I was born in Clinton and I've lived here my entire life. I love western Oklahoma. I'm just of the opinion that whenever you love something and there is a problem that needs to be addressed, the worst thing you can possibly do is not talk about it. And, no I'm not under any illusion that by talking about something on the Internet I'm somehow going to reduce the rate of teenage pregnancy in Oklahoma. But, it can enable us to understand the mentality at the root of the problem and find some way to eventually correct that through other means.
agreed

United States

#14 Dec 6, 2012
yeppie wrote:
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While I do admit I was being a tad bit insensitive asking that, it's still a valid question. Oklahoma ranks 10th in the nation for teenage pregnancy and 41st for the highest IQ. There is a strong correlation between lower IQs and higher rates of teenage pregnancy per capita. I didn't move here from anywhere, I was born in Clinton and I've lived here my entire life. I love western Oklahoma. I'm just of the opinion that whenever you love something and there is a problem that needs to be addressed, the worst thing you can possibly do is not talk about it. And, no I'm not under any illusion that by talking about something on the Internet I'm somehow going to reduce the rate of teenage pregnancy in Oklahoma. But, it can enable us to understand the mentality at the root of the problem and find some way to eventually correct that through other means.
This person is confusing you with me. I do, however, strongly agree with you. 99% of the teenagers in Oklahoma who are having babies, are teenage high school dropouts. Do you believe these high school dropouts are actually going to go to college to make something of themselves while trying to work and take care of an infant? Maybe if the father of the baby has a good job, and they know who the father of the baby is.
yeppie

Little Elm, TX

#16 Dec 6, 2012
agreed wrote:
<quoted text>This person is confusing you with me. I do, however, strongly agree with you. 99% of the teenagers in Oklahoma who are having babies, are teenage high school dropouts. Do you believe these high school dropouts are actually going to go to college to make something of themselves while trying to work and take care of an infant? Maybe if the father of the baby has a good job, and they know who the father of the baby is.
No. I don't and statistically teenage mothers are much less likely to finish high school and go to college. That's why it's such a big problem. So we're both right there. Where I don't agree with you is your stance on welfare. While I agree that there is rampant abuse of the system and it should probably be reformed I don't think that it should be eliminated. There's simply too many people that have to depend on it for various reasons. Think about it this way: Right now the unemployment rate is ~7.8% 5 years ago it was about ~4.5%. So we can tell there is a portion of folks that just can't find jobs we just don't see it that much around here because of the oil field, etc.
agreed

United States

#17 Dec 6, 2012
yeppie wrote:
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No. I don't and statistically teenage mothers are much less likely to finish high school and go to college. That's why it's such a big problem. So we're both right there. Where I don't agree with you is your stance on welfare. While I agree that there is rampant abuse of the system and it should probably be reformed I don't think that it should be eliminated. There's simply too many people that have to depend on it for various reasons. Think about it this way: Right now the unemployment rate is ~7.8% 5 years ago it was about ~4.5%. So we can tell there is a portion of folks that just can't find jobs we just don't see it that much around here because of the oil field, etc.
Well I'd like to hear your thoughts on how we could reform it without having people abusing it? The unemployment rate isn't high because there aren't jobs, it's high because if you get a job, the amount of food stamps/government assistance you receive will be less. Who wants to work when knowing that when you get a job, the government will cut the amount of assistance you will receive? It promotes laziness.
agreed

United States

#18 Dec 6, 2012
What I don't agree with, is the fact that I have to work and budget to pay my bills and provide for myself like a responsible adult, but people who are irresponsible can have 5 kids and live off of the government for life. Like I said, where do you think the 14 trillion dollar deficit came from?
agreed

United States

#19 Dec 6, 2012
I have no problem knowing that a portion of my taxes goes to the elderly and the disabled. My heart goes out to them. But able-bodied people who are just flat out lazy? They dropped out of high school at age 14 and had 3 kids before they were 21 and...they are expecting everything to be taken care of for them? I don't think so.
:)

Blanchard, OK

#20 Dec 6, 2012
Absolutely agree with what was mention above. The families with the most kids are those who will continue to live off welfare. Go to Walmart around the first of the month, you will see bums who haven't worked in years, loading up their carts with $800-$1000 worth of groceries. They are usually dressed like slobs and look like they haven't showered in days.
:)

Blanchard, OK

#21 Dec 6, 2012
Something else that really gets me is, single moms who are unemployed who think that working fast food or Walmart is beneath them. Hello, if you are collecting welfare there isn't much left beneath you!!! I know several teen moms or young adults who choose to stay on welfare because working just isn't for them.

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