OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, Sta...

OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, State Question 756

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JAG

United States

#35393 Feb 20, 2013
I'm registered democrat but I can't support this man's agenda. The longer he's in office the worse our country will be in my opinion. My neighbor Dee Smith is a life long democrat and she's beside herself. She says everything this administration pushed through on healthcare is coming unravelled and the truth is starting to come out. But we are stuck with the changes forced on us. I think Congress shouldn't be able to force insurance on the American People unless they are REQUIRED BY LAW to have the very same insurance choices and coverages!

On sequestration Dee says it's like Obama is playing a game all smoke and mirrors and misinformation, it's a game the citizens can't play an active part in but the American Public has to live with, without any options to opt out of the game. That's not the American Way. America is supposed to be about choices and freedoms.
Jesse

United States

#35394 Feb 20, 2013
JAG wrote:
I'm registered democrat but I can't support this man's agenda. The longer he's in office the worse our country will be in my opinion. My neighbor Dee Smith is a life long democrat and she's beside herself. She says everything this administration pushed through on healthcare is coming unravelled and the truth is starting to come out. But we are stuck with the changes forced on us. I think Congress shouldn't be able to force insurance on the American People unless they are REQUIRED BY LAW to have the very same insurance choices and coverages!
On sequestration Dee says it's like Obama is playing a game all smoke and mirrors and misinformation, it's a game the citizens can't play an active part in but the American Public has to live with, without any options to opt out of the game. That's not the American Way. America is supposed to be about choices and freedoms.
yeah I'm afraid your right, I mean look at what we deal with every week. Outrageously high fuel cost every stinking week just to go to work which now I'm paying higher taxes on my not so big check, then groceries are almost double for me compared to 2007 or 2008. Some days I only eat dinner which I make a pretty good size dinner when I do that but the point is I'm single if my cost doubled imagine a family of 4!

I never worried to much about the future I just kinda figure if I work hard and was reliable then I'd always have a job and could make a living.

What happens if this sequestration goes through and unemployment hits higher than it is now? What happens if we have another terrorist attack on America will we be able to protect our homeland since our borders are still open? In 2014 when healthcare law goes into full effect will I loose my insurances and be forced to enroll in a government plan? Will the increase cost of running a business cause the company I work for to lay me off or close it's doors altogether?

I've never worried this much and I can tell you I don't like it!
Pringles

United States

#35395 Feb 20, 2013
Donnie wrote:
Well my wife believes Obama stole the nomination from Hillary on how the votes were counted with the delegates. All I know if my choice was between Hillary or Obama, I would vote every time for Hillary!
Your wife isn't the first person to have that opinion. Hillary was railroaded gamemanship within the democratic party. Secretary of State position was offered to keep her from blowing the win if she told just what she knew about Obama lack of qualifications and his personal agenda for America then the game would be over for Obama. But she was a good loyal soldier, kept her mouth shut and worked her ass off as Secretary of State, but I too believe the election was taken from her.

Hillary is a work horse and she was even quoted shorty after Obama's nomination to his first term that job one was "jobs". But our illustrious leader chose healthcare as the most important accomplishment to acheive. We are in his second term and he's saying again trust me if you just follow my plan but his first term he achieved healthcare and sequestration which was his agenda and he can't blame anyone but himself since both are his administration ideas and he signed them both into law.
Maddy

United States

#35396 Feb 21, 2013
Remember Fisker's? The "green energy" luxury sports car which received 530 million taxpayers dollars through Obama's Energy Dept. Now it's in negotiations with the Chinese to buy it's firm, after another U.S. "green energy" firm went belly up A123. A123 was sold to a Chinese firm earlier at fire sale prices and this company also received millions of taxpayers money to produce "green energy" batteries for Fisker's cars.

The Chinese have been named as "hackers" into our military and industry secrets to gain technology which it uses to undercut American interest. Our country is being taken apart piece by piece and China so far has been taking the spoils without lifting a finger because we are so in debt to the Chinese.

Our debt is destroying our country and our spineless gutless Congress, fat from years of bleeding the taxpayers giving themselves special insurances,pensions and perks are completely insulated from the damage their decisions are reaping the American people and our way of life.

Jobs and getting our debt under control should have been a national security priority to any administration from Bush II on. Here we are in 2013, the Chinese own us financially, the technology they aren't outright stealing through hacking they are buying at fire sale prices which they will "sell" back to us and the world...and the technology was all paid for by the American taxpayer.

Isn't anyone outraged by this?
ElohimsOkie

Broken Bow, OK

#35397 Feb 21, 2013
Pringles wrote:
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Your wife isn't the first person to have that opinion. Hillary was railroaded gamemanship within the democratic party. Secretary of State position was offered to keep her from blowing the win if she told just what she knew about Obama lack of qualifications and his personal agenda for America then the game would be over for Obama. But she was a good loyal soldier, kept her mouth shut and worked her ass off as Secretary of State, but I too believe the election was taken from her.
Hillary is a work horse and she was even quoted shorty after Obama's nomination to his first term that job one was "jobs". But our illustrious leader chose healthcare as the most important accomplishment to acheive. We are in his second term and he's saying again trust me if you just follow my plan but his first term he achieved healthcare and sequestration which was his agenda and he can't blame anyone but himself since both are his administration ideas and he signed them both into law.
youtube.....clinton chroniciles
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#35398 Feb 21, 2013
Maddy wrote:
Remember Fisker's? The "green energy" luxury sports car which received 530 million taxpayers dollars through Obama's Energy Dept. Now it's in negotiations with the Chinese to buy it's firm, after another U.S. "green energy" firm went belly up A123. A123 was sold to a Chinese firm earlier at fire sale prices and this company also received millions of taxpayers money to produce "green energy" batteries for Fisker's cars.
The Chinese have been named as "hackers" into our military and industry secrets to gain technology which it uses to undercut American interest. Our country is being taken apart piece by piece and China so far has been taking the spoils without lifting a finger because we are so in debt to the Chinese.
Our debt is destroying our country and our spineless gutless Congress, fat from years of bleeding the taxpayers giving themselves special insurances,pensions and perks are completely insulated from the damage their decisions are reaping the American people and our way of life.
Jobs and getting our debt under control should have been a national security priority to any administration from Bush II on. Here we are in 2013, the Chinese own us financially, the technology they aren't outright stealing through hacking they are buying at fire sale prices which they will "sell" back to us and the world...and the technology was all paid for by the American taxpayer.
Isn't anyone outraged by this?
Yes I am outraged by all that is going on. I am a registered Democrat and as of late I have no idea if the majority of Democrats are really American citizens or Spies posing as Us Citizens. They seem Hell Bent into putting this country in the toilet. But then Bush 11 did us no favors. But I did vote for the first time for a Republican for President. I sure hope Obama got alot of good advice from Tiger Woods during his golf lesson. As far as I can see Obama should be working on the budget and this not the time to be having play time with Mr. Woods.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#35399 Feb 21, 2013
I about fell out of my easy chair last nite when I heard on the news the New York State was wanting to pass a law the you would need gun packing insurance and it would not be cheap. I wonder if this insurance would be government funded?
SayWhat

United States

#35400 Feb 21, 2013
But hey, we got a healthcare overhaul that won't work and sequestration looming that will kill more jobs it will be a domino effect. We have lots of military who will become civilians and NO JOBS to put them in. Civilians are playing hell trying to find a job. The high cost of fuel and groceries is choking the little guy and those on fixed incomes the worse.

Didn't Obama say he was going to only raise taxes on the wealthy? Looks to me like the same people are getting dumped on that have always caught hell. The elderly and low wage earners, the middle class are more like the lower class with the losses they've endured and lower class is now in poverty. Check the statistics it's a fact!
SayWhat

United States

#35401 Feb 21, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
I about fell out of my easy chair last nite when I heard on the news the New York State was wanting to pass a law the you would need gun packing insurance and it would not be cheap. I wonder if this insurance would be government funded?
You own a gun you will have to have a million dollar policy is what I heard. Again the elderly and the lower income folks will be denied basic rights of owning a gun... the right illumanati reserve for themselves.

What's happened in the last fews years is we have become a society RULED by the freakin liberals. It's crazytime in America.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#35402 Feb 21, 2013
SayWhat wrote:
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You own a gun you will have to have a million dollar policy is what I heard. Again the elderly and the lower income folks will be denied basic rights of owning a gun... the right illumanati reserve for themselves.
What's happened in the last fews years is we have become a society RULED by the freakin liberals. It's crazytime in America.
There are many gun owners. And the majority could not afford that insurance my husband and I included. Does the government think these people that canot afford this insurance is going to hand over their gun peacefully. Not the way gun sells are going today. And Obama and his gun control thing seems to have put a lid on openly talking about it. I wonder if this is their way to sneak the law about gun insurance thru so people will be caught off guard?
SayWhat

United States

#35403 Feb 21, 2013
Its all part of Obama's liberal agenda. Universal healthcare and including migrant workers/families have to be covered along with an extra 20 million Americans...he gets votes from all the moochers and illegals with that little gem. Pushing marriage for gay rights and allowing unrestricted abortions including late term partial birth abortions which is totally barbaric procedure. His war on small business with increased regulations/insurance requirements that just kills the small business enterprises. Pushing gun contol...it's ALL HIS LIBERAL AGENDA!
Dempsey

United States

#35404 Feb 21, 2013
Looks like Sequestration may be triggered since it's the law as Barack Hussein Obama intended. Just today it was reported Obama called Boehner to reach out and suggest perhaps there was a way to avoid this law being implemented. I would ask President Obama why this late hour call when he has had literally months to work on this issue? If Obama seriously wants to avert this crisis perhaps he should call his congressional ally, Harry Reid, and strongly suggest he allow a vote on the only budget which has been submitted? I listened to Obama's speech in front of all those first responders he paraded out for us to see. The first responders he claimed would loose their jobs if sequestration went into effect. He said sequestration was "bad" for us and would hurt americans. If that is the case then I have a couple of questions to ask Pres.Barack Hussein Obama.

1. Why did you and your White House group dream up the sequestration law and did you never expect to use it?
2. If you now think the law is bad for America why in God's name did you push it through and then sign it into law?

There is something else which interest me. Since Pres.Barack Hussein Obama has the majority of congress, his party would be deciding exactly what programs that would be cut. Since he said the first responders would loose their jobs does that mean he and his party would cut them instead of other programs?
Jesse

United States

#35405 Feb 21, 2013
Dempsey wrote:
Looks like Sequestration may be triggered since it's the law as Barack Hussein Obama intended. Just today it was reported Obama called Boehner to reach out and suggest perhaps there was a way to avoid this law being implemented. I would ask President Obama why this late hour call when he has had literally months to work on this issue? If Obama seriously wants to avert this crisis perhaps he should call his congressional ally, Harry Reid, and strongly suggest he allow a vote on the only budget which has been submitted? I listened to Obama's speech in front of all those first responders he paraded out for us to see. The first responders he claimed would loose their jobs if sequestration went into effect. He said sequestration was "bad" for us and would hurt americans. If that is the case then I have a couple of questions to ask Pres.Barack Hussein Obama.
1. Why did you and your White House group dream up the sequestration law and did you never expect to use it?
2. If you now think the law is bad for America why in God's name did you push it through and then sign it into law?
There is something else which interest me. Since Pres.Barack Hussein Obama has the majority of congress, his party would be deciding exactly what programs that would be cut. Since he said the first responders would loose their jobs does that mean he and his party would cut them instead of other programs?
You think he has time to dirty his hands calling a leader like Boehner to "work" on addressing the financial issues of this country? What are you thinking?

Don't expect President Obama to cut his vacations short or his golf lessons, to lower himself to talking to Boehner. President Obama has underlings who handle that type of work. Like Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi.
hick

Broken Arrow, OK

#35406 Feb 21, 2013
welcome to america!
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#35407 Feb 21, 2013
Jesse wrote:
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You think he has time to dirty his hands calling a leader like Boehner to "work" on addressing the financial issues of this country? What are you thinking?
Don't expect President Obama to cut his vacations short or his golf lessons, to lower himself to talking to Boehner. President Obama has underlings who handle that type of work. Like Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi.
More so since Bush 11 I have often wondered if Harry and Nancy really are running the government and pushing agenda thru to best suit them. I remember after the first healthcare bill was pushed thru Nancy was speaking to the press and said a big thing has happened that her healthcare bill got approved. I'm not wondering if Obama is not the puppet and Nancy and Harry aren't holding the strings. Just a thought!
JAG

United States

#35408 Feb 21, 2013
Dempsey wrote:
Looks like Sequestration may be triggered since it's the law as Barack Hussein Obama intended. Just today it was reported Obama called Boehner to reach out and suggest perhaps there was a way to avoid this law being implemented. I would ask President Obama why this late hour call when he has had literally months to work on this issue? If Obama seriously wants to avert this crisis perhaps he should call his congressional ally, Harry Reid, and strongly suggest he allow a vote on the only budget which has been submitted? I listened to Obama's speech in front of all those first responders he paraded out for us to see. The first responders he claimed would loose their jobs if sequestration went into effect. He said sequestration was "bad" for us and would hurt americans. If that is the case then I have a couple of questions to ask Pres.Barack Hussein Obama.
1. Why did you and your White House group dream up the sequestration law and did you never expect to use it?
2. If you now think the law is bad for America why in God's name did you push it through and then sign it into law?
There is something else which interest me. Since Pres.Barack Hussein Obama has the majority of congress, his party would be deciding exactly what programs that would be cut. Since he said the first responders would loose their jobs does that mean he and his party would cut them instead of other programs?
Excellent questions but I don't think any networks will ask those questions, instead they will ask him if he had a better score than Tiger and what he ate for dinner last night or the really relevant tough question like "do you like Michelle new hair-do?
Firebrand

United States

#35409 Feb 22, 2013
How can the democrats claim that the republicans are the reason for sequestration? Sequestration was triggered because the democrats haven't followed the law of the land and submitted a budget. For 4 years they haven't submitted a budget!

The republicans caved in on tax hikes violating their own platform and alienating conservatives. The republicans have their hands tied they have no power to fix this situation. All they can do is submit a budget which they did and Harry Reid wouldn't allow it to be voted on so it was D.O.A.

Sequestration was thought up and designed by Jack Lew and Obama's White House and Obama signed it into law. Jack Lew, Obama and his White House are all democrats, Harry Reid is a democrat. Obama said this week that sequestration was bad and would hurt america.

Oh really?

Then I respectfully suggest the democrats stop the political "show" and get down to earning their wages by submitting a budget thereby avoiding the automatic cuts forced in sequestration. The democrats have all the cards in this game. It's time to shit or get off the pot!
Deacon

United States

#35410 Feb 22, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>More so since Bush 11 I have often wondered if Harry and Nancy really are running the government and pushing agenda thru to best suit them. I remember after the first healthcare bill was pushed thru Nancy was speaking to the press and said a big thing has happened that her healthcare bill got approved. I'm not wondering if Obama is not the puppet and Nancy and Harry aren't holding the strings. Just a thought!
You might find it interesting to check out H&R's Blocks Tax website because they are warning people about additional tax liabilities due to ObamaCare. Apparently fines (taxes) can be anywhere from $60 to $200 dollars per month assessed additional taxes should you not provide proof of adequate insurance coverage.
It's based on your income and the baseline will be 2012 tax return. Many people don't realize the IRS will enforce ObamaCare requirements.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#35411 Feb 22, 2013
Deacon wrote:
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You might find it interesting to check out H&R's Blocks Tax website because they are warning people about additional tax liabilities due to ObamaCare. Apparently fines (taxes) can be anywhere from $60 to $200 dollars per month assessed additional taxes should you not provide proof of adequate insurance coverage.
It's based on your income and the baseline will be 2012 tax return. Many people don't realize the IRS will enforce ObamaCare requirements.
I am sure the people that take charge of their affairs know it by now. But the ones that don't probably think they will keep getting a by! Then there are those that thinks they is a freeby thing. Then there are those that will be getting it free at tax payers expense. Most don't know that if they work for an employer that provides healthcare that that cost to the employer will be add to the employees income and they will be tax on it as earned income. Alot of people will be shocked when this healthcare thing has been around for awhile.
Deacon

United States

#35412 Feb 22, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>I am sure the people that take charge of their affairs know it by now. But the ones that don't probably think they will keep getting a by! Then there are those that thinks they is a freeby thing. Then there are those that will be getting it free at tax payers expense. Most don't know that if they work for an employer that provides healthcare that that cost to the employer will be add to the employees income and they will be tax on it as earned income. Alot of people will be shocked when this healthcare thing has been around for awhile.
You are correct.

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