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TheInquisitor

New Caney, TX

#1 Sep 20, 2012
Is speaking in tongues a gift of the holy spirit or total bullshit?
pastors daughter

United States

#2 Sep 20, 2012
100% gift. i was 12 when i received this gift. its the most comforting thing in the world to get totally lost in the holy spirit. no words can really describe it.
budding atheist

United States

#3 Sep 21, 2012
1000% total bullshit. And no, I didn't make a mistake adding the extra zero.
Christian

Oklahoma City, OK

#4 Sep 21, 2012
Thelnquisitor,

Please consult the Bible on your question. That is more accurate than Topix. Yes, speaking in tonues is a gift of the Holy Spirit freely given to those who want it. But, you need to seek out your answer in the scriptures. Budding atheist, you are a budding idiot.
bob

Dallas, TX

#5 Sep 21, 2012
Christian wrote:
Thelnquisitor,
Please consult the Bible on your question. That is more accurate than Topix. Yes, speaking in tonues is a gift of the Holy Spirit freely given to those who want it. But, you need to seek out your answer in the scriptures. Budding atheist, you are a budding idiot.
LOL LOL You are totally right, Christian. hahahaha, and he doesn't even know that he makes a fool of himself on Topix.
scooter trash

United States

#6 Sep 21, 2012
Dear Christian.. who are you to be passing judgement and calling people idiots?? I love how the so called christians of this world look down upon others who do not believe the same things they do. We have freedom of religion in this country douche bag. So you believe what you want and let others do the same. For you are the budding idiot by displaying how unintelligent you truly are.
budding atheist

United States

#7 Sep 21, 2012
Christian wrote:
Thelnquisitor,

Please consult the Bible on your question. That is more accurate than Topix. Yes, speaking in tonues is a gift of the Holy Spirit freely given to those who want it. But, you need to seek out your answer in the scriptures. Budding atheist, you are a budding idiot.
And I guess you think insulting me will get you into heaven faster? All you are going to do is show the hypocrisy of religious bigots like you. Your bible preaches love and tolerance and all the people do is spread hate and intolerance for any viewpoint that differs from your own.
TheInquisitor

United States

#8 Sep 21, 2012
So if I don't get it does that mean I'm not saved? Just wondering because I keep on trying to let it come but it won't. I was saved at a baptist church when I was 13 but I quit going a year ago when I moved here. I keep on trying to get it but it won't come to me. Now I'm worried that I will go to hell if I don't get the gift of tongues. My daughter just got saved too. What do I tell her if she asks me if she's gonna go to heaven? She doesn't get it either.

Since: Sep 12

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#9 Sep 21, 2012
budding atheist wrote:
1000% total bullshit. And no, I didn't make a mistake adding the extra zero.
1000%??? How can there be more than 100% of anything? Well, uhh, maybe God could be 1000%.

Since: Sep 12

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#10 Sep 21, 2012
Man, this area is full of anger. I can feel it from here.
JimBob

United States

#11 Sep 21, 2012
ahkand boxvb hjmrw da swqolk jkldaw!
ur good

United States

#12 Sep 21, 2012
TheInquisitor wrote:
So if I don't get it does that mean I'm not saved? Just wondering because I keep on trying to let it come but it won't. I was saved at a baptist church when I was 13 but I quit going a year ago when I moved here. I keep on trying to get it but it won't come to me. Now I'm worried that I will go to hell if I don't get the gift of tongues. My daughter just got saved too. What do I tell her if she asks me if she's gonna go to heaven? She doesn't get it either.
The Baptists don't get the Holy Spirit. But the Church of Christ are the only ones going to heaven anyway, so there you go. The Bible also says that when one speaks in tongues, there will be someone present who understands what they're saying. That being said, I'm pretty sure the majority of it is bullshit. I understood what jimbob said, but I'm afraid I can't repeat it.
hmm..

Jenks, OK

#13 Sep 21, 2012
TheInquisitor wrote:
So if I don't get it does that mean I'm not saved? Just wondering because I keep on trying to let it come but it won't. I was saved at a baptist church when I was 13 but I quit going a year ago when I moved here. I keep on trying to get it but it won't come to me. Now I'm worried that I will go to hell if I don't get the gift of tongues. My daughter just got saved too. What do I tell her if she asks me if she's gonna go to heaven? She doesn't get it either.
If you are saved and have accepted Jesus as your Lord and savior then you will get into Heaven! Speaking in tongues is just an added bonus... Not a necessity....
hmm..

Jenks, OK

#14 Sep 22, 2012
I meant requirement not necessity! It's not a requirement to get into Heaven..
what i think

United States

#15 Sep 23, 2012
you don't have to be filled with the holy spirit to go to heaven. i agree with HMM its an added bonus. when you accept jesus he fills your life and your complete, when you get filled with the holy spirit its like your life is now over flowing. speaking in tongues is the outward evidence of the holy spirit. sometimes when your talking to God you just don't know what what to say, sometimes your so hurt and broken its hard to put it into words, times like this is when speaking in tongues helps me bc the holy spirit knows exactly what needs to be said and what i need.
Bedford

Elk City, OK

#16 Sep 25, 2012
There isn't a single passage in the Bible where the Holy Spirit ever spoke to God for man. The Holy Spirit revealed the truth through the apostles (John 16:12-13; 14:16) and when that was done miracles ceased to be practiced (1 Cor. 13). The ability to speak in a language one had not studied was a miracle (Acts 2) that enabled the apostles to carry the gospel into foreign lands.
What I Know

United States

#17 Sep 25, 2012
what i think wrote:
.....speaking in tongues is the outward evidence of the holy spirit. sometimes when your talking to God you just don't know what what to say, sometimes your so hurt and broken its hard to put it into words, times like this is when speaking in tongues helps me bc the holy spirit knows exactly what needs to be said and what i need.
If the Holy Spirit knows already, what is the point in spewing gibberish? It does not edify God!!
Arvin

Elk City, OK

#18 Sep 29, 2012
Just prior to His ascension back into heaven, Jesus told the eleven apostles (for Judas had already killed himself) that various signs would follow them in their ministry. The apostles were to cast out demons, speak in tongues, have the ability to take up serpents and drink deadly poisons without harm and lay their hands on the sick in order to instantly cure them (Mark 16:17-18).
On the first Pentecost after the death of Christ the apostles were together in an upper room in the city of Jerusalem. Luke tells us that on this Lord's day morning that "suddenly there came a sound from heaven, as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled the whole house where they were sitting. Then there appeared to them divided tongues, as of fire, and one sat upon each of them. And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance." (Acts 2:2-4).
On that day of Pentecost there "were dwelling in Jerusalem Jews, devout men, from every nation under heaven" (Acts 2:5). These men were amazed and "confused, because everyone heard them speak in his own language" (Acts 2:6). These men questioned the events of the day by asking, "how is it that we hear, each in our own language in which we were born?" (Acts 2:8). On this monumental day the apostle Peter explained that this outpouring of the Holy Spirit was a fulfillment of Old Testament prophecy (Acts 2:16-21; cf. Joel 2:28-32).
People all over this country claim that they have the same ability to "speak in tongues" as the apostles did in the second chapter of Acts -- I kindly submit unto you that all such people have been deceived into believing a lie. There is not a man or woman on the face of the earth today who can speak in tongues like the apostles did!
When the apostles "spoke in tongues" they spoke in an intelligible language-one in which other people could understand. The apostles did not speak in the gibberish and nonsense that you find in Pentecostal and charismatic groups today. During the past twenty years I have visited dozens of Pentecostal assemblies and observed what they called "speaking in tongues." There has not been a single occasion where their "tongue speaking" even remotely resembled the actions of the first century church.

In Pentecostal assemblies today you will often see large numbers of people "speaking in tongues" at the same time. Even if they really had the ability to speak in tongues (which they don't) this mass confusion is in direct violation of Paul's command that "if anyone speaks in a tongue, let there be two or at the most three, each in turn" (1 Cor. 14:27). In the New Testament church, when men genuinely had miraculous powers, those who spoke in tongues had to speak one at a time and the church was limited to two, or at the most three, such demonstrations during an entire assembly.
The miraculous gifts of the first century church were to be limited in duration. Paul told the Corinthians that "when that which is perfect has come, then that which is in part will be done away" (1 Cor. 13:10). The "perfect" in this passage is obviously the completed revelation of the New Testament, the "perfect law of liberty" (James 1:25). When the completed revelation of the New Testament was given the spiritual gifts (the "in part") were to cease.
I have no animosity towards people who attend Pentecostal churches -- I simply feel sorry for them. I realize that they have been duped into believing a lie. These people might be honest and sincere, but they are sincerely wrong.
What is called "speaking in tongues" today requires the complete surrender of rational thought to emotionalism. Christians are to be ruled by "the word of God which lives and abides forever" (1 Peter 1:23), not their emotions. Over nineteen hundred years ago John warned Christians to "not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world" (1 John 4:1).
lifes a box of chocolates

Elk City, OK

#19 Oct 3, 2012
Arvin wrote:
Just prior to His ascension back into heaven, Jesus told the eleven apostles (for Judas had already killed himself) that various signs would follow them in their ministry. The apostles were to cast out demons, speak in tongues, have the ability to take up serpents and drink deadly poisons without harm and lay their hands on the sick in order to instantly cure them (Mark 16:17-18).

People all over this country claim that they have the same ability to "speak in tongues" as the apostles did in the second chapter of Acts -- I kindly submit unto you that all such people have been deceived into believing a lie. There is not a man or woman on the face of the earth today who can speak in tongues like the apostles did!
When the apostles "spoke in tongues" they spoke in an intelligible language-one in which other people could understand. The apostles did not speak in the gibberish and nonsense that you find in Pentecostal and charismatic groups today. During the past twenty years I have visited dozens of Pentecostal assemblies and observed what they called "speaking in tongues." There has not been a single occasion where their "tongue speaking" even remotely resembled the actions of the first century church.
In Pentecostal assemblies today you will often see large numbers of people "speaking in tongues" at the same time. Even if they really had the ability to speak in tongues (which they don't) this mass confusion is in direct violation of Paul's command that "if anyone speaks in a tongue, let there be two or at the most three, each in turn" (1 Cor. 14:27). In the New Testament church, when men genuinely had miraculous powers, those who spoke in tongues had to speak one at a time and the church was limited to two, or at the most three, such demonstrations during an entire assembly.
The miraculous gifts of the first century church were to be limited in duration. Paul told the Corinthians that "when that which is perfect has come, then that which is in part will be done away" (1 Cor. 13:10). The "perfect" in this passage is obviously the completed revelation of the New Testament, the "perfect law of liberty" (James 1:25). When the completed revelation of the New Testament was given the spiritual gifts (the "in part") were to cease.
I have no animosity towards people who attend Pentecostal churches -- I simply feel sorry for them. I realize that they have been duped into believing a lie. These people might be honest and sincere, but they are sincerely wrong.
What is called "speaking in tongues" today requires the complete surrender of rational thought to emotionalism. Christians are to be ruled by "the word of God which lives and abides forever" (1 Peter 1:23), not their emotions. Over nineteen hundred years ago John warned Christians to "not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world" (1 John 4:1).
I have never heard this before and very happy I saw this! I have been raised in the Christian Church all my life and thought it was scary when ppl seemed to be 'freaking out'! I still do bc I do not believe it is true. If it were then why would ONLY Pentecostals be able to do so? This doesn't happen in Baptist, Methodist, Christian, etc churches. Love the history though!
just me

Houston, TX

#20 Oct 4, 2012
Arvin- you did a great job explaining!

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